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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 19:13:19 GMT -5
Saving the OMG tag for next year You may. If Loyola can pull it off or lewis next year, I will give you the right to use OMG because thats when I will start worrying about the MIVA taking over I don't care what conference is stronger or weaker. Rambler 63 is just trying to promote our name and conference. You've admitted that the one Loyola fan is obnoxious to you. You are inadvertantly taking attention away from the thread. Keep digging a hole. Go Ramblers. I will actually miss Lewis. They had a great squad. Kudos their effort this year.
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Post by ucsdfan on May 10, 2015 19:18:23 GMT -5
What are the transfer rules within MPSF? I believe the rules are that he can only transfer to UCSD where he will be granted seven years of eligibility, but I might be wrong.
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Post by WahineFan44 on May 10, 2015 19:47:07 GMT -5
You may. If Loyola can pull it off or lewis next year, I will give you the right to use OMG because thats when I will start worrying about the MIVA taking over I don't care what conference is stronger or weaker. Rambler 63 is just trying to promote our name and conference. You've admitted that the one Loyola fan is obnoxious to you. You are inadvertantly taking attention away from the thread. Keep digging a hole. Go Ramblers. I will actually miss Lewis. They had a great squad. Kudos their effort this year. I will apologize if I took away attention, but my point still stands. Rambler63 does not give your conference or team a good name, and a lot of people will agree with this. I have NO gripes with Loyola or Lewis and if Rambler and certain other posters weren't as bad as they are, I wouldn't care who won, but when you have people like them, who think Loyola deserves all the accolades and that the MPSF is somehow awful now, it does get annoying. Mind you I think MPSF teams get annoying too.
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Post by WahineFan44 on May 10, 2015 19:49:12 GMT -5
I've heard rumors that Sander wants to leave. It's tough being a jack mormon at BYU. What's a jack Mormon ? Basically a mormon who isn't a full fledged and into mormonism, or a non baptized person, who isn't a mormon, but sympathizes with them
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 21:17:24 GMT -5
archive anyone?
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Post by ocmyhome on May 10, 2015 21:33:50 GMT -5
BYU? Returning Langlois, Sander, Meretev, Underwood, Sutton and Heap... AND they get ben patch back. I'd love to see a Patch vs. Jaeschke match-up I've heard rumors that Sander wants to leave. It's tough being a jack mormon at BYU. According to his interview 3 weeks ago, he's been loving it. "It's been great. I've loved my experience here." Although, you never know what's going on in a kid's head. Emphasis on kid...
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Post by VolleyTX on May 11, 2015 16:21:46 GMT -5
What a fantastic and entertainment match! Unfortunately, it is the first match I've seen from either team this year (my cable provider mostly shows west coast teams). It was abundantly clear to me that the top two teams in the country played for the national championship. It is scary to think that Loyola's top middle is a freshman.... AND their starting opposite is a freshman (who has TONS of upside).
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Post by memorybankrupt on May 11, 2015 17:24:31 GMT -5
What was the all tournament team? Most Outstanding Player: Jeff Jendryk - Loyola Cody Caldwell - Loyola Thomas Jaeschke - Loyola Geoff Powell - Lewis Greg Petty - Lewis Aaron Russell - Penn State Tamir Hershko - UC Irvine How did Hershko get on the all tournament team? He stank up the semis in every facet. I think they could have included Yanez or maybe Loyola's setter.
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Post by brownbox on May 11, 2015 17:48:27 GMT -5
I think it's voted on by people who aren't exactly very volleyball knowledgable. He likely earned it with his energy.
Hutz made some outstanding digs and set a great tournament, thought he had a case for MOP.
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on May 11, 2015 18:50:21 GMT -5
I can tell you from experience that the press covering the matches also are asked to contribute to the All-tournament team voting...
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Post by BabyDuck on May 11, 2015 21:40:46 GMT -5
What a fantastic and entertainment match! Agreed! We haven't all yelled at the TV on every touch like that in a while!!
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 22:56:37 GMT -5
Archive please and thanks!
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 23:19:08 GMT -5
Exciting, yes. Good volleyball, not so much. It's amazing that Loyola (especially the setter) stunk up the joint with a 14-11 lead and then pulled it out. The reason, silly Lewis errors. These things are usually lost by the team that makes the most errors. Lewis is a very disciplined team, but their setting is mediocre, and they rely too much on two outside hitters and good blocking. Anyway congrats to the Illinois state champion. No, this isn't MPSF bias. None of those teams earned any right to play in the national championship. However, my ESPN U (meaning "unimportant" I guess) listing said "BYU vs. Irvine! Contrary to what you said, your post clearly is MPSF bias. And this is coming from a Midwesterner who held the thought that as a whole the MIVA was still not on the same level as the MPSF even though it was clear both Loyola and Lewis could have played with the top of the MPSF even before the NCAA Tournament. Throughout the season I thought that if either (or both) of Lewis or Loyola played an MPSF schedule they would be right there with UCI, Hawaii, and Pepperdine fighting for the top spot, but wasn't sure that either of them would've separated themselves from that pack. Having said all that, it is clear that Loyola and Lewis were the 2 best teams in the country and it isn't even debatable. Those 2 teams combined for a total of 6 losses this season (compared to 55 wins). Of those 6 losses, 4 came to the other team. Of the 2 left, 1 of those was to another MIVA team (Lewis's loss to Ohio State). Their only loss outside of the MIVA was Lewis to BYU in 5. Both Lewis and Loyola swept UCI (the top team in the MPSF having won both the regular season outright and the MPSF Tournament) this year. Lewis and Loyola combined to go 5-0 against Penn State, the team that beat Hawaii, the 2nd place team in the MPSF. Loyola absolutely dominated UCI in the semifinals. In the finals, Loyola had an instant classic battle with its MIVA rival, going to 23-21 in a 5th set, as competitive of a match as you will find. UCI wasn't even close to that kind of competitiveness with Loyola, nor was Hawaii with Penn State, who, again, those 2 teams went 5-0 on the season against. If you want to talk about how "mediocre" the final match was, you may want to shift your focus as to how the MPSF got so dominated by the average teams from the MIVA and went 0-2 in the NCAA Tournament. Sometimes players go out and make some plays. Sure, there were some decisions that could've been better and some errors that could've been prevented in the match. But guess what? That happens in every single match at every single level. Find me a match where there aren't poor setting decisions in an MPSF match. Or heck, in an international match. Find me a match where there isn't a single hitting error at any level. It simply doesn't happen. It's part of the game. It's why a team hitting percentage of .300 is a very good hitting percentage. If errors didn't occur that number would be 1.000. Seems like you're setting the bar too high by about .700. Sure, Loyola let some opportunities slip away after having a big lead in game 1. But in my opinion, it had more to do with Petty taking over to get Lewis back into the set and then Powell closing the set out strong. And sure, Lewis let some opportunities slip away in giving up a lead in game 2, but again, in my opinion, it had more to do with Loyola's serve receive tightening up and being able to run 4 options at Lewis down the stretch. Set 3 Loyola just dominated every phase of the game, and you tip your cap to them for playing clean volleyball. And set 4 was some of the best volleyball in the college game you will see, with some very good defensive plays leading to some great rallies. Set 5 could've gone either way and Loyola went out and won it rather than either team losing it. You should probably lower your standards or open your eyes to the fact that the MPSF makes the same types of errors that you claim led to "mediocre" play in the National Championship that your favorite conference's teams all sat on the couch watching. Again, keep in mind (and feel free to go back and look at my posting history) that this is coming from someone who defended the MPSF throughout the season. The 2 best teams in the country played a very, very competitive, exciting match that got very clean in sets 4 and 5 on Saturday night, and we were all lucky to witness it.
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Post by notsocal2 on May 12, 2015 0:44:23 GMT -5
Exciting, yes. Good volleyball, not so much. It's amazing that Loyola (especially the setter) stunk up the joint with a 14-11 lead and then pulled it out. The reason, silly Lewis errors. These things are usually lost by the team that makes the most errors. Lewis is a very disciplined team, but their setting is mediocre, and they rely too much on two outside hitters and good blocking. Anyway congrats to the Illinois state champion. No, this isn't MPSF bias. None of those teams earned any right to play in the national championship. However, my ESPN U (meaning "unimportant" I guess) listing said "BYU vs. Irvine! Contrary to what you said, your post clearly is MPSF bias. And this is coming from a Midwesterner who held the thought that as a whole the MIVA was still not on the same level as the MPSF even though it was clear both Loyola and Lewis could have played with the top of the MPSF even before the NCAA Tournament. Throughout the season I thought that if either (or both) of Lewis or Loyola played an MPSF schedule they would be right there with UCI, Hawaii, and Pepperdine fighting for the top spot, but wasn't sure that either of them would've separated themselves from that pack. Having said all that, it is clear that Loyola and Lewis were the 2 best teams in the country and it isn't even debatable. Those 2 teams combined for a total of 6 losses this season (compared to 55 wins). Of those 6 losses, 4 came to the other team. Of the 2 left, 1 of those was to another MIVA team (Lewis's loss to Ohio State). Their only loss outside of the MIVA was Lewis to BYU in 5. Both Lewis and Loyola swept UCI (the top team in the MPSF having won both the regular season outright and the MPSF Tournament) this year. Lewis and Loyola combined to go 5-0 against Penn State, the team that beat Hawaii, the 2nd place team in the MPSF. Loyola absolutely dominated UCI in the semifinals. In the finals, Loyola had an instant classic battle with its MIVA rival, going to 23-21 in a 5th set, as competitive of a match as you will find. UCI wasn't even close to that kind of competitiveness with Loyola, nor was Hawaii with Penn State, who, again, those 2 teams went 5-0 on the season against. If you want to talk about how "mediocre" the final match was, you may want to shift your focus as to how the MPSF got so dominated by the average teams from the MIVA and went 0-2 in the NCAA Tournament. Sometimes players go out and make some plays. Sure, there were some decisions that could've been better and some errors that could've been prevented in the match. But guess what? That happens in every single match at every single level. Find me a match where there aren't poor setting decisions in an MPSF match. Or heck, in an international match. Find me a match where there isn't a single hitting error at any level. It simply doesn't happen. It's part of the game. It's why a team hitting percentage of .300 is a very good hitting percentage. If errors didn't occur that number would be 1.000. Seems like you're setting the bar too high by about .700. Sure, Loyola let some opportunities slip away after having a big lead in game 1. But in my opinion, it had more to do with Petty taking over to get Lewis back into the set and then Powell closing the set out strong. And sure, Lewis let some opportunities slip away in giving up a lead in game 2, but again, in my opinion, it had more to do with Loyola's serve receive tightening up and being able to run 4 options at Lewis down the stretch. Set 3 Loyola just dominated every phase of the game, and you tip your cap to them for playing clean volleyball. And set 4 was some of the best volleyball in the college game you will see, with some very good defensive plays leading to some great rallies. Set 5 could've gone either way and Loyola went out and won it rather than either team losing it. You should probably lower your standards or open your eyes to the fact that the MPSF makes the same types of errors that you claim led to "mediocre" play in the National Championship that your favorite conference's teams all sat on the couch watching. Again, keep in mind (and feel free to go back and look at my posting history) that this is coming from someone who defended the MPSF throughout the season. The 2 best teams in the country played a very, very competitive, exciting match that got very clean in sets 4 and 5 on Saturday night, and we were all lucky to witness it. +1 Your serve wonderwart
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Post by azvb on May 12, 2015 0:54:43 GMT -5
Never mind ... looked it up 1.a Mormon who is not strictly observant. "the only thing that's going to end up happening is me doing homework on Sundays and drinking Pepsi and being just another Jack Mormon" 2.a sympathetic non-Mormon living among Mormons. I guess I'm a Jack Mormon if homework on Sunday and Pepsi are the criteria! Jack Mormon is someone who doesn't go to church, probably drinks a bit, etc., but still considers themselves Mormon.
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