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Post by ballervolley on May 20, 2015 16:59:22 GMT -5
oh now people want to trash talk foluke what total BS! now that is the lowest of the low
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Post by kro2488 on May 20, 2015 17:43:29 GMT -5
I disagree. I think the great Lindsey Berg could have improved her connection with Foluke. I honestly think Foluke could improve her connection with all her setters. I feel like setters are more to blame for mis connection with the middle generally especially in front of the setter, Glass sets it too high or to low, or misses in front for whatever reason more so than with the slide, as a fan its kinda annoying to see but it is what it is, that is something I want to see Glass be better at this time around running the front gap sets and quick balls better. I'm glad to see some new faces coming to the wgp roster, we have great depth these days which is important, if God forbid something happened to one of the big guns.
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Post by superfan1 on May 20, 2015 18:10:26 GMT -5
Wonder why Kehoe had the best connection with her. Kehoe set Akinradewo whenever and wherever she felt. I think Kehoe ran the middle more than any other setter I've seen.
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Post by dorothymantooth on May 20, 2015 18:11:08 GMT -5
I think there is an excellent chance she retires at least from NT to pursue her schooling. This is just me speaking but, if I were at that age, and played in two olympics, I may play another year or two pro to pack away the money, but four more years to play in the olympics after you have played in two, for next to no money? Not me. Doesn't she want to pursue something in medicine? med school
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Post by kokyu on May 20, 2015 21:06:15 GMT -5
Wonder why Kehoe had the best connection with her. Weakest competition. I don't know if their stronger confidence was entirely, even if mostly, that.
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Post by ay2013 on May 20, 2015 21:25:42 GMT -5
Kreklow isn't experienced enough to wrestle a starting position away. The setting job is Glass' to lose, but I'm hoping Krelow can make a big impact. We all know what a strong serving setter and setter that can accurately set the middles can do to spark a team (flashback of Berg coming in for Ah Mow and decimating). Last time we saw Glass in the big matches she had trouble setting the middles, in particular Foluke. That's not a winning scenario. Kreklow had a fantastic pro rookie season! Her team won the Bundesliga in Germany and had a decent showing in the Champions League, in which she was rated one of the top-5 setters in the tourney for a couple weeks (which included greats like Naz, Maja, Wolosz, Tomkom, Startseva, Lo Bianco, Thompson, just to name a few). IMO the team would have made a stronger push in the CEV CL if they had more than just Bartsch as a bailout terminator; the 5'8" Izquierdo and recovering Lippmann and Pencova just couldn't quite get their team past stronger clubs like Yamamay and Moscow early in the tourney. Although Dresdner upset Fenerbahçe in 5 sets in the playoffs, they failed to make the Round of Six by points. For those interested in seeing Kreklow and Bartsch take down KYK, Bosetti, Bauer, Eda Erdem, and Lo Bianco, here's the match: www.laola1.tv/en-int/video/fenerbahce-grundig-istanbul-dresdner-sc/298876.htmlI anticipate Molly will be pure fire at Eczacibasi this coming pro season, and more people worldwide will get to see and appreciate her fluid setting! I'm glad she's doing well in her pro league, but success in a pro league doesn't necessarily translate to national team success...just ask Carli Lloyd.
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Post by nativevolley on May 20, 2015 22:20:48 GMT -5
Kreklow had a fantastic pro rookie season! Her team won the Bundesliga in Germany and had a decent showing in the Champions League, in which she was rated one of the top-5 setters in the tourney for a couple weeks (which included greats like Naz, Maja, Wolosz, Tomkom, Startseva, Lo Bianco, Thompson, just to name a few). IMO the team would have made a stronger push in the CEV CL if they had more than just Bartsch as a bailout terminator; the 5'8" Izquierdo and recovering Lippmann and Pencova just couldn't quite get their team past stronger clubs like Yamamay and Moscow early in the tourney. Although Dresdner upset Fenerbahçe in 5 sets in the playoffs, they failed to make the Round of Six by points. For those interested in seeing Kreklow and Bartsch take down KYK, Bosetti, Bauer, Eda Erdem, and Lo Bianco, here's the match: www.laola1.tv/en-int/video/fenerbahce-grundig-istanbul-dresdner-sc/298876.htmlI anticipate Molly will be pure fire at Eczacibasi this coming pro season, and more people worldwide will get to see and appreciate her fluid setting! I'm glad she's doing well in her pro league, but success in a pro league doesn't necessarily translate to national team success...just ask Carli Lloyd. Well yes and no... I would say her entire career she didn't really run a "fast tempo" offense in system and out of system. Most of her professional career the teams she had played for were pretty much "just set the ball" and with a little guidance by the coaches. That is how I saw it. Now that the U.S have a offense system which consist of first and second tempos both in and out of system. Someone mentioned this is what she is struggling with, the tempo of the offense. I think if they (meaning the U.S national team) were just "playing volleyball" where the setter calls the plays; she would be better where she is at now. Whereas you get setters like Molly and Alisha, both are natural at setting a fast offense. Would it be different if they run a mick haley offense, yes. It's just a matter of finding the "right setter", but what is the right setter? I was really rooting for her (Still am); she is one of the best blocker setters in the world. Ask the Italians they would talk your ear off.
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Post by nativevolley on May 20, 2015 22:29:12 GMT -5
oh now people want to trash talk foluke what total BS! now that is the lowest of the low Hold up wait a minute... Who's trash talking down on her? She is my all time favorite and I will fight tooth and nail for her. No but really, who was talking crap? lol...
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Post by chisovnik on May 20, 2015 22:43:35 GMT -5
But she can pass and defend nearly as well as anyone on that rooster...and I know, that hasn't been done on the international level. However, I do believe her game translates as a six rotation player internationally. I think most people think that her reception will be her biggest issue professionally. That, and her lack of pace on the ball. Saying that she can pass and defend as well as Larson, Hill, and Robinson really isn't accurate. Robinson's passing and defense were nothing to write home about last season. Vansant's definitely not beating out Larson or Hill, but she's definitely capable of beating out Robinson.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 23:13:06 GMT -5
I think most people think that her reception will be her biggest issue professionally. That, and her lack of pace on the ball. Saying that she can pass and defend as well as Larson, Hill, and Robinson really isn't accurate. Robinson's passing and defense were nothing to write home about last season. Vansant's definitely not beating out Larson or Hill, but she's definitely capable of beating out Robinson. A little confused as to why you say that... I looked back at World Cup Reports and she was passing extremely well, at least at that tournament. I could only find three games she played a significant enough amount of time to receive a "passing" score, and in two of those three games (which are below), she passed better than Hill. Feel free to show me things that prove otherwise, but I think it's weird to hear that Vansant, who was never the passer or defender Kelsey was in college - many thought Kelsey might go for libero on the NT - is easily capable of beating out Robo in terms of defending. www.fivb.org/vis_web/volley/WWCH2014/WWCH2014_p3-011.pdfwww.fivb.org/vis_web/volley/WWCH2014/WWCH2014_p3-079.pdfwww.fivb.org/vis_web/volley/WWCH2014/WWCH2014_p3-076.pdf
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Post by austintatious on May 21, 2015 0:02:51 GMT -5
Foluke gets a lot of kills for someone who can't get set right. Additionally, you have to consider that if a whole series of the world's best setters can't set you, not Berg, not Glass, not Tomkom, not Skorupa, not Feretti, not Zhukova, then maybe it's not the setter. How many middles does it take to change a light bulb? Just one. But you gotta put it right in her hand.
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 21, 2015 0:13:23 GMT -5
Foluke gets a lot of kills for someone who can't get set right. Additionally, you have to consider that if a whole series of the world's best setters can't set you, not Berg, not Glass, not Tomkom, not Skorupa, not Feretti, not Zhukova, then maybe it's not the setter. How many middles does it take to change a light bulb? Just one. But you gotta put it right in her hand. Let me get this straight, I don't think there's any huge problem connecting with Foluke. She gets tons of kills and is terribly efficient. But if you were to say there were such a gigantic problem, is it really the setter's problem if EVERY setter has it?
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Post by ballervolley on May 21, 2015 5:17:24 GMT -5
How many middles does it take to change a light bulb? Just one. But you gotta put it right in her hand. Let me get this straight, I don't think there's any huge problem connecting with Foluke. She gets tons of kills and is terribly efficient. But if you were to say there were such a gigantic problem, is it really the setter's problem if EVERY setter has it? it ain't rocket science. if your middle jumps out of the gym are you going to set her A. low or B.high? as a setter i have been talked to by my middle if my setting was too low or if other setters in the gym observed that my setting was too low they would communicate their observations also. if you're not a setter then you wouldn't understand that it's the setters fault and if you are a hitter more so you would understand this. i mean is everyone blind? can people not see that when the setting is too low and the hitter is hitting by their ear or dinking the ball consistently that the problem are the sets. the problem in this case is that the setters play with hitters that don't jump as high as foluke and release the ball with less force because that's what they are used to their brain hasn't made the adjustment it's called habit. did anyone see in one of the tournaments foluke made a thumbs up to glass and said "higher"? glass adjusted the set and everything was fine.some people need to remember those times when you keep getting low sets and how frustrating it was. even commentators will say "the set was too low". when you set the ball too low you are setting the hitter up for failure.
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Post by dorothymantooth on May 21, 2015 7:41:10 GMT -5
Hodge is certainly not the best player in the world, or the best player on the NT. She is however a very accomplished player, great athlete with size, experience and an absurd amount of success. Check out her resume on Wikepedia and then list the number of players on our roster with better ones. I count 3 or 4 at best. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_Hodge
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Post by nothingbutcorn on May 21, 2015 8:27:58 GMT -5
Dorothy I would count Larson as one of your 3-4 players.
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