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Post by VolleyTX on Sept 4, 2015 10:37:45 GMT -5
How about trying out Carli Lloyd and Micha Hancock on the team?. They are, without a doubt, the best setters with AVCA label. Dietzen shouldn't even be on the team anymore. Chiaka Ogbogu would be the perfect replacement for her. *sigh*
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Post by volleyguy on Sept 4, 2015 10:45:15 GMT -5
She never will in this offensive system. She played the majority of her pro career in Russia. Don't hold your breath. It is not the system, please. Have you been watching her? Maybe the body can't take it anymore as she is getting older but she has not played consistent vb. Go back the WC in Italy recently, she had a great match in semi-final against Brazil then did nothing in the finals against China. Of course it's the system. Larson is the most accomplished proessional veteran left on the team now. She doesn't need to eat baby-food or to be spoon-fed.
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Post by #skoskers on Sept 4, 2015 10:45:45 GMT -5
Thoughts after the match: Russia played great.... there is no denying that. I've said this a thousand times already, but there is no use running such a fast offense if your opponent already knows where your setter is going with the ball. Glass is such a pattern setter... and easy to read. Even with 3 ball passes and lightening fast sets, USA has a solid two woman block to hit against almost every time. I'm really surprised Kreklow didn't start or at least be brought in during the second set. For the most part, I thought Glass' location was ok... again, it comes down to predictability. Watch the next match.... guess where she is going with the ball before she sets it. Foluke.... she has not been blocking well for at least a year and 1/2. Not sure what is going on. Both middles.... Why are they determined to stay in the middle of the court until the setter (or other player) makes the second contact? There are times when everyone in the gym knows who is getting the set (someone other than setter making second contact or court positioning).... yet there is foluke and Diezen standing in the middle of the net with their hands up. A couple times they even ended up late for the block. Diezen's inability to consistently terminate is probably going to lose her the starting position to Dixon. I'm a little surprised Karch didn't try Fawcett sooner. Like-minded observations, VolleyTX. I thought you would be joining us late last night, but good you got to see the match, albeit an ugly USA loss. I agree that Dixon should take over the other middle position, and the world needs more of Kreklow, who seemingly connects the best with USA's middles.
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Post by wahinez4eva on Sept 4, 2015 10:46:56 GMT -5
Karma just bites his azz. Karch is replicating the same mistakes Hugh did 3 yrs ago. I agree. Apparently Starch (as in stiff) needs to chill out and start making major changes in his line up. Now that reality has bit him in his boo boo...lol
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Post by #skoskers on Sept 4, 2015 10:47:39 GMT -5
She never will in this offensive system. She played the majority of her pro career in Russia. Don't hold your breath. Shhhhh. Can you explain this? Is it because we try to run a fast tempo and it's slower than her club team, different competition? Unlike Team USA, Dinamo Kazan rarely set their middles, giving significantly more attack opportunities to Jordan and Gamova (but mostly Gamova). Last season, Jordan's club team Eczacibasi really utilized their middle attack (Poljak in front of the setter, and Fürst running the slide) that it wouldn't be uncommon to see one of the middles having the most kills in a match. Toward the end of the season, however, Jordan got significantly more sets when De la Cruz got injured, which gave her the opportunity to be voted MVP of Champions League and Club World Championships via all the kills she recorded.
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Post by #skoskers on Sept 4, 2015 10:49:16 GMT -5
Thoughts after the match: Russia played great.... there is no denying that. I've said this a thousand times already, but there is no use running such a fast offense if your opponent already knows where your setter is going with the ball. Glass is such a pattern setter... and easy to read. Even with 3 ball passes and lightening fast sets, USA has a solid two woman block to hit against almost every time. I'm really surprised Kreklow didn't start or at least be brought in during the second set. For the most part, I thought Glass' location was ok... again, it comes down to predictability. Watch the next match.... guess where she is going with the ball before she sets it. Foluke.... she has not been blocking well for at least a year and 1/2. Not sure what is going on. Both middles.... Why are they determined to stay in the middle of the court until the setter (or other player) makes the second contact? There are times when everyone in the gym knows who is getting the set (someone other than setter making second contact or court positioning).... yet there is foluke and Diezen standing in the middle of the net with their hands up. A couple times they even ended up late for the block. Diezen's inability to consistently terminate is probably going to lose her the starting position to Dixon. I'm a little surprised Karch didn't try Fawcett sooner. Good God.... WTF is wrong with the Refs inability to understand what is supposed to be challenged. They seem to only get it right about 70% of the time. I know there is a language barrier.... but hand gestures are pretty obvious. I always find it unacceptable that refs don't understand English (or don't understand enough of it) for international matches. For domestic matches in a non-English speaking country, sure, knowing English is not a prerequisite and a ref can get by perfectly fine without knowing a word of it.
But come on, this is FIVB's international tournament. And whether the French like it or not, English is the international language of communication. Its outrageous that so many refs don't even understand English volleyball terminology. I mean, fine, I accept they may not be able to speak English fluently. I don't necessarily expect them to speak like a native. But at the very least, a FIVB ref should understand the English terms for the volleyball challenges. That really is not asking much.
The down ref from Korea speaks decent English. Also, weren't you the one hiding under your desk last night?
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Post by ironhammer on Sept 4, 2015 10:51:46 GMT -5
I always find it unacceptable that refs don't understand English (or don't understand enough of it) for international matches. For domestic matches in a non-English speaking country, sure, knowing English is not a prerequisite and a ref can get by perfectly fine without knowing a word of it.
But come on, this is FIVB's international tournament. And whether the French like it or not, English is the international language of communication. Its outrageous that so many refs don't even understand English volleyball terminology. I mean, fine, I accept they may not be able to speak English fluently. I don't necessarily expect them to speak like a native. But at the very least, a FIVB ref should understand the English terms for the volleyball challenges. That really is not asking much.
The down ref from Korea speaks decent English. Also, weren't you the one hiding under your desk last night? That's one ref. How many refs can speak decent Engish?
And yeah, I said I wouldn't watch, but did I really didn't watch? Hehehe.
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Post by volleyguy on Sept 4, 2015 10:58:13 GMT -5
The down ref from Korea speaks decent English. Also, weren't you the one hiding under your desk last night? That's one ref. How many refs can speak decent Engish?
And yeah, I said I wouldn't watch, but did I really didn't watch? Hehehe.
I'm not completely familiar with how the challenge system was implemented here, but the announcer mentioned at one point that there is a pad that can be used to signal what is being challenged. I'm not sure if he meant an electronic pad or "paddle", but there's clearly a disconnect, and maybe it doesn't have to do solely with language if the coach's request isn't actually being conveyed by one of the refs.
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Post by coloradokidd on Sept 4, 2015 11:32:39 GMT -5
Better lessons learned now than in Rio. Great game planning by Russia; Hit through at high hands, because there is no one that can get around to the back corners in time to collect the deflections. An exposed weakness in USA's defensive scheme? Agree with unwinding the double-sub. There is not enough substitutions to use when you need to take a player out. I expected Kreklow and Dixon to start in set 2, but then who do you sub Dixon in for; Dietzen's lack of scoring , or Akinradewo's lack of blocking. I love when Kreklow establishes the Middles with quicks, but Glass seems to try to establish the Middles by running the slide. Would like to see Robinson play back court for Hill against the top teams. Hill's received 50% of the serves in this match, but her excellent rating (23%) was not high enough for the USA to consistently run its 'fast offence'. Your top passer - Robinson, as Karch called her , only had 6 receptions for the whole match. * As for challenges: Have a set of placards for each bench to 'visually' display the act being challenged - one for each available item that can be challenged. Hopefully a coach and ref can diagnose a picture the same way, but then maybe...
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Post by jordan on Sept 4, 2015 11:42:58 GMT -5
They'll get 'em next time.
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Post by Reach on Sept 4, 2015 11:55:01 GMT -5
USA was better last year. So many changes this year and thus they've been inconsistent. Also not playing teams at full strength this year has given team USA a false sense of security. Serbia, Russia and China at full strength have beaten team USA this year. The setting and the round robin of OPP have been a problem. Kreklow connects better with the middles and Lowe. Glass connects better with the lefts and Murphy. What's it going to be? USA has been winning a lot but against whom? The other teams have had major major handicaps most of times... Just sayin.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Sept 4, 2015 11:58:17 GMT -5
USA was better last year. So many changes this year and thus they've been inconsistent. Also not playing teams at full strength this year has given team USA a false sense of security. Serbia, Russia and China at full strength have beaten team USA this year. The setting and the round robin of OPP have been a problem. Kreklow connects better with the middles and Lowe. Glass connects better with the lefts and Murphy. What's it going to be? USA has been winning a lot but against whom? The other teams have had major major handicaps most of times... Just sayin. We CLEARLY weren't better in WGP last year. And we certainly weren't better in the WCH match against Italy (luckily, it wasn't a knockout and we didn't have to see them again). This team is VERY reliant on serving its opponents into submission, especially against elite teams. We do have a lot of very good servers, which can make that tenable (unfortunately, the current A team lineup has 3 relatively weak servers, which makes margins thin). The team as a whole doesn't block nearly as well as it used to, and while we can be good defensively we're never going to be Japan. We really struggle to stop teams when they can get in-system or a reasonable approximation thereof.
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Post by Upfrontvb on Sept 4, 2015 12:30:54 GMT -5
So many thoughts about the game. I think that having Glass and Dietzen hurt this past year and not playing club really got them behind in international play. But I am not at practice and I trust the staff know more than us who to put out on the court. But I will say, Molly has been doing well with the team when she was setting.
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Post by pass on Sept 4, 2015 12:33:48 GMT -5
Are there any matches where Dietzen doesn't foot fault? SHEESH!
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Post by wonderer on Sept 4, 2015 12:43:28 GMT -5
taking Molly and Thompson to Rio looks to me like a better option than taking a error prone Glass! Thompson as the second setter can cause a lot of damage with her serve and adds great defense.
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