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Post by mplssetter on Oct 1, 2015 0:40:50 GMT -5
Just a question, who has the authority to make call after the replay is reviewed. The R2 is the one watching the replay, so does R2 go ahead and make the call or do they have to converse with the R1 before a final call is made? I wasn't paying too close attention at the MN game during the challenges. Goldie is so damn distracting sometimes.
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Post by spikerthemovie on Oct 1, 2015 0:52:58 GMT -5
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Post by rogero1 on Oct 1, 2015 1:25:20 GMT -5
I thought PAC-12 was going to do it this year, but it seems clear that they didn't. I've seen some incredibly bad calls already in the first week of the season and there were no replay reviews. There was one in the UW-WSU match where the ball hit almost right in front of the linesman, a good six inches in, and she called it out. Yeah, no replay reviews in the Pac-12. I'd like to see them at least in the regionals. Not going to happen this year. NCAA already decided that until they get more data from this year. Even then, it will probably get tweaked in when a challenge can be called. At the FIVB World Cup in Omaha, coaches were using it to prevent the other team from challenging a call and to be used as a 3rd time out near the end of a set.
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Post by rogero1 on Oct 1, 2015 1:26:22 GMT -5
Just a question, who has the authority to make call after the replay is reviewed. The R2 is the one watching the replay, so does R2 go ahead and make the call or do they have to converse with the R1 before a final call is made? I wasn't paying too close attention at the MN game during the challenges. Goldie is so damn distracting sometimes. R2 makes the call.
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Post by bucky415 on Oct 1, 2015 2:35:19 GMT -5
I have to say that I hate replay, and it has nothing to do with the results of it. It just seems to disrupt the flow of the match, like it does in other sports.
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Post by vbman100 on Oct 1, 2015 7:23:25 GMT -5
I have to say that I hate replay, and it has nothing to do with the results of it. It just seems to disrupt the flow of the match, like it does in other sports. What about 2 timeouts per set for each team? Or 2 timeouts each team per set, plus 2 technical timeouts per set? Or 5 timeouts for each team, plus 8 media timeouts, like in NCAA basketball? Or 6 or 7 timeouts for each team plus media timeouts in the NBA? Or 6 timeouts for each team, plus an insane number of media timeouts in the NFL? How does that do for flow of those games, not even counting challenges/replays?
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Post by dorothymantooth on Oct 1, 2015 7:25:19 GMT -5
I have to say that I hate replay, and it has nothing to do with the results of it. It just seems to disrupt the flow of the match, like it does in other sports. disruption of flow isnt great, but getting the call right should take precedent.
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Post by tempesthorn on Oct 1, 2015 8:46:43 GMT -5
I have to say that I hate replay, and it has nothing to do with the results of it. It just seems to disrupt the flow of the match, like it does in other sports. disruption of flow isnt great, but getting the call right should take precedent. Agreed but this experiment is turning into a huge fail. Did you not watch the ISU/OU match? The ESPNU camera CLEARLY showed a touch on ISU's block on OU's challenge. Apparently the ref doesn't have access to ESPNU's feed? WTF? The old lady ref couldn't even figure out how to rewind or fast forward the tape to what she wanted to see. Each challenge took entirely too much time, the commentators were noting it was taking twice as long as a timeout. A great idea in theory but it's a huge fail in execution and when you're not getting the call right still; what's the point?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 9:47:53 GMT -5
Apparently the B1G is only doing it in 3 venues. The pluses do not outweigh the minuses. You say that, until you see a play like happened in the UW-WSU match where an ace serve landed at least a foot in bounds and everybody knew it except the line judge and the refs. Replay would have taken a whole 10 seconds to fix that call. But that's just gross incompetence. If you have linesmen making those errors, you have the wrong people reffing. And it's still just one point. To me, it's a bad break, like a serve catching the net and rolling over for a point. Play on. If they can work out a system that does this quickly AND the fans can see the replay so they are still involved, OK. But this is going to be abused. And cause bad delays. Just watch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 9:49:17 GMT -5
Thanks. But shouldn't there be something official from the conferences and/or the NCAA?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 9:51:17 GMT -5
Thanks. Still February, but at least it says it was approved rather than proposed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 9:54:09 GMT -5
There was one in the UW-WSU match where the ball hit almost right in front of the linesman, a good six inches in, and she called it out. Yeah, no replay reviews in the Pac-12. I'd like to see them at least in the regionals. Not going to happen this year. NCAA already decided that until they get more data from this year. Even then, it will probably get tweaked in when a challenge can be called. At the FIVB World Cup in Omaha, coaches were using it to prevent the other team from challenging a call and to be used as a 3rd time out near the end of a set. Because this is what some coaches do: They see a new rule and immediately start thinking of ways to exploit it. Sportsmanship at its finest.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 9:55:53 GMT -5
I have to say that I hate replay, and it has nothing to do with the results of it. It just seems to disrupt the flow of the match, like it does in other sports. What about 2 timeouts per set for each team? Or 2 timeouts each team per set, plus 2 technical timeouts per set? Or 5 timeouts for each team, plus 8 media timeouts, like in NCAA basketball? Or 6 or 7 timeouts for each team plus media timeouts in the NBA? Or 6 timeouts for each team, plus an insane number of media timeouts in the NFL? How does that do for flow of those games, not even counting challenges/replays? In my opinion, it makes those sports significantly worse than they should be -- and sometimes, for me anyhow, unwatchable. I was watching a football game the other day and there must have been FIVE challenges of where the ball was spotted. Seriously?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 9:58:52 GMT -5
I have to say that I hate replay, and it has nothing to do with the results of it. It just seems to disrupt the flow of the match, like it does in other sports. disruption of flow isnt great, but getting the call right should take precedent. Disagree. Or that would depend on what the disruption is like. I mean, we COULD spend a week after each play doing a complete video and audio and forensic analysis to absolutely ensure the call was correct. At some point, you just have to realize that refs are human and they are part of the game. Or, in the case of football, you need to realize that your sport's rules can't be enforced by human beings.
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Post by nothingbutcorn on Oct 1, 2015 10:07:45 GMT -5
I watched the OU/ISU match and I think there was OU staff who was working the camera shots she wanted to look at. It did not look like she was working their system. I think we need to give it time. There is always first year bugs to be worked out.
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