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Post by MyNameHere on Oct 5, 2015 7:14:46 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but all of these things should have been known beforehand. They could have asked ME and I'm just a fan. They were known beforehand. Most of them come down to cost issues for the host institution. Schools are trying to see what the cheapest acceptable option is, so most of the time that involves making do with whatever's already on hand. The money pouring into FBS football and men's basketball gives them better equipment, more staff, etc. (Most) Volleyball programs just don't have the funds to invest in the challenge system quite yet. I don't think it's reasonable to expect that unless a new system is perfect from the outset, it shouldn't be used at all. So far this is just a test, and the flaws are pretty apparent. Now, the decision needs to be made whether to invest the funds needed to fix the flaws, or to scrap the idea of challenging plays in women's NCAA VB.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 8:33:16 GMT -5
I vote for the latter. Money and time is best spent elsewhere, on more important things (more important volleyball things).
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Post by oshkoshdadmjs on Oct 5, 2015 12:26:07 GMT -5
I like it, let's get every call right, there's no reason that missed calls should be part of a game. The kinks will al get worked out.
And I would rather people question that coaches are using it inefficiently than have a bunch of missed calls.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 12:31:18 GMT -5
Depends on if you want to watch a volleyball match or not I guess.
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Post by oshkoshdadmjs on Oct 5, 2015 12:38:49 GMT -5
Right, because having instant replay means that you are no longer watching a volleyball match. That makes sense and isn't over the top at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 14:53:20 GMT -5
Well, the literal interpretation would be: If they're reviewing a play, you are NOT watching the sport being played. So it depends if the end result makes up for that for you. Apparently it does for you.
The next interpretation would be that they are changing the sport. Again, is it worth it?
THEN you might get to whatever interpretation it is that you reached.
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Post by JT on Oct 5, 2015 15:15:35 GMT -5
Maybe if they put the replay up onto the jumbo tron so we could all start yelling at the ref for what the replay call should be, it would be better. Turn the replay delay into a chance to really get mad at the officials.
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Post by kokyu on Oct 5, 2015 15:16:36 GMT -5
Not a fan of micro touch calls on blocks and nets. FIVB still needs to improve their replay system for time efficiency, but I think it's a good idea to bring in replay to college just for ball in/out calls since those are always quick to do, never a long delay for them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 15:20:29 GMT -5
Maybe if they put the replay up onto the jumbo tron so we could all start yelling at the ref for what the replay call should be, it would be better. Turn the replay delay into a chance to really get mad at the officials. You're joking (I think), but I have been saying this: They need to keep the fans involved.
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Post by wibadgervbfan on Oct 5, 2015 15:40:43 GMT -5
Had an older guy at the Badger match yesterday behind me telling the person next to him why Kelly had used a challenge. He said it was so he could slow down the play since NW had like a 3 point run. Nevermind that he had both his timeouts and the score was like 21-16 or whatever it was (Badgers still had a comfortable lead) I was just talking with my buddy next to me and saying he wouldn't waste 1 of his 3 challenges to slow down the other team with both timeouts still available.
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 5, 2015 15:50:55 GMT -5
That touch or net call wasn't that close. That's two matches in a row that Sheff did that, without a good reason from the perspective of someone watching on TV. His perspective may be way different, but I almost feel he was just testing to see what would happen - i.e., how quickly the review would happen. Since they instituted this system there hasn't been a lot of reason to call for a challenge for UW - although Hambly has taken advantage.
I have to say that I really think it is worth getting calls right, and that there will always be growing pains in implementing this kind of thing. That said, there has to be a way to make a working system feasible across the conference given the costs and technical limits.
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Post by Coach E on Oct 5, 2015 16:47:54 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the Hawk-Eye system would work? (one used in tennis) & if so, how much are they?
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Post by JT on Oct 5, 2015 16:50:57 GMT -5
Maybe if they put the replay up onto the jumbo tron so we could all start yelling at the ref for what the replay call should be, it would be better. Turn the replay delay into a chance to really get mad at the officials. You're joking (I think), but I have been saying this: They need to keep the fans involved. Yes, joking. However, yes, they need something to keep the fans involved during the challenges, unless they can miraculously get them to be 15 seconds or less. ... Maybe 5 seconds.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 16:54:24 GMT -5
They could haul out the intermission games, I guess.
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Post by spikerthemovie on Oct 5, 2015 16:56:33 GMT -5
Maybe if they put the replay up onto the jumbo tron so we could all start yelling at the ref for what the replay call should be, it would be better. Turn the replay delay into a chance to really get mad at the officials. You're joking (I think), but I have been saying this: They need to keep the fans involved. On Saturday night, I thought the same thing -- the video board is available and we were all sitting there, doing nothing. Why not show it, much like they would on TV (where the commentators would be free to disagree with the refs, as would the audience)? Having said that, though, both Hambly and McCutcheon used the challenges sparingly -- in each case, I think they'd have had a decent shot if they had flashed one more green card -- and I didn't think it was any more of an interruption than when a match is televised and there are media time-outs.
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