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Post by whowasthat on Oct 3, 2015 13:23:18 GMT -5
Kadie Rolfzen hit .310 in the last 3 sets against PSU. If she can consistently play at that level, she's in the running. You can make that kind of argument for 20 or 30 other players
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Post by surfboy on Oct 3, 2015 13:25:27 GMT -5
Courtney is a great all around player her and Taylor comes to mind as far as better blocking outsides go, but there are certainly a few others. Last I checked, Taylor is an OPP, which means that she SHOULD have superior blocking numbers to Bricio and Courtney because she plays in a position that allows her to see 3 times as many opportunities for blocks. Taylor is not a true opposite she hits once from the left and didnt compare her to those two just simply stated Courtney and Taylor come to mind as Outsides that can block...Simple as that!
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Post by haw2991 on Oct 3, 2015 13:27:10 GMT -5
Damn these Mexicans taking all our Player of the Year awards... wth
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Post by haw2991 on Oct 3, 2015 13:28:27 GMT -5
Courtney is a great all around player her and Taylor comes to mind as far as better blocking outsides go, but there are certainly a few others. Last I checked, Taylor is an OPP, which means that she SHOULD have superior blocking numbers to Bricio and Courtney because she plays in a position that allows her to see 3 times as many opportunities for blocks. to be fair, Taylor does rotate to the left.
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 3, 2015 13:42:45 GMT -5
Last I checked, Taylor is an OPP, which means that she SHOULD have superior blocking numbers to Bricio and Courtney because she plays in a position that allows her to see 3 times as many opportunities for blocks. Taylor is not a true opposite she hits once from the left and didnt compare her to those two just simply stated Courtney and Taylor come to mind as Outsides that can block...Simple as that! Almost all OPP's have a half rotation on the left, it's a product of the serve reception pattern and teams not wanting the OPP running all the way to the other side of the court. Does she play any defensive rotations (where Hawaii serves the ball) on the left? I recall watching the UCLA and Florida match, I remember Taylor falling into the traditional serve receive patterns. THIS does NOT make Taylor and OH.
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Post by haw2991 on Oct 3, 2015 13:43:21 GMT -5
Its got to be Bricio. Taylor has got the stats but is playing on a team that will not get her the nod. Its unfortunate but a reality. What? The season has just started and you're writing Hawaii off. Hawaii is ranked #10 and climbing, and winning the title or at least making the final four is not farfetched. If you're thinking Hawaii's tradition is not on par with the others, you must be joking. Hawaii has had 4 POYs in 6 seasons. Deitre Collins (82, 83), Teee Williams (87, 89), Angelica Lundquist (96) and Kim Willoughby (2003). You can bring up all your stats from the past but it's 2015. Hawaii has been getting ignored/disrespected for the last decade. We see it annually at the end of the season postseason bracket selections. More then likely we're going to be sent to Washington again and even if we pull off the win; I personally believe SC will advance far into the tournament giving Bricio the eventual nod. I think Nikki will definitely be a 1st team All-American, POY status though is doubtful.
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Post by #skoskers on Oct 3, 2015 13:43:18 GMT -5
Damn these Mexicans taking all our Player of the Year awards... wth Agreeing and smh right there with you. Nebraskans are not xenophobes.
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 3, 2015 13:44:02 GMT -5
Last I checked, Taylor is an OPP, which means that she SHOULD have superior blocking numbers to Bricio and Courtney because she plays in a position that allows her to see 3 times as many opportunities for blocks. to be fair, Taylor does rotate to the left. as in the standard half rotation which ALL OPP's do on serve receive, or she actually stacks, on Hawaii serve, and moves to the left? If it's the former, almost every OPP does does this because of the standard rotation pattern.
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 3, 2015 13:45:16 GMT -5
What? The season has just started and you're writing Hawaii off. Hawaii is ranked #10 and climbing, and winning the title or at least making the final four is not farfetched. If you're thinking Hawaii's tradition is not on par with the others, you must be joking. Hawaii has had 4 POYs in 6 seasons. Deitre Collins (82, 83), Teee Williams (87, 89), Angelica Lundquist (96) and Kim Willoughby (2003). You can bring up all your stats from the past but it's 2015. Hawaii has been getting ignored/disrespected for the last decade. We see it annually at the end of the season postseason bracket selections. More then likely we're going to be sent to Washington again and even if we pull off the win; I personally believe SC will advance far into the tournament giving Bricio the eventual nod. I think Nikki will definitely be a 1st team All-American, POY status though is doubtful. definitely 1st teamer.
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Post by surfboy on Oct 3, 2015 13:56:15 GMT -5
Taylor is not a true opposite she hits once from the left and didnt compare her to those two just simply stated Courtney and Taylor come to mind as Outsides that can block...Simple as that! Almost all OPP's have a half rotation on the left, it's a product of the serve reception pattern and teams not wanting the OPP running all the way to the other side of the court. Does she play any defensive rotations (where Hawaii serves the ball) on the left? I recall watching the UCLA and Florida match, I remember Taylor falling into the traditional serve receive patterns. THIS does NOT make Taylor and OH. FYI....Yes she does play on the left when Hawaii serves. Like I said she is not a true Opposite, if you seen more than one Hawaii game (And not clips) you would know this.
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Post by pineapple on Oct 3, 2015 13:58:42 GMT -5
You have a knack for twisting things. surfboy is talking about Nikki Taylor's chances, not about anyone else's. Didn't you also say: "I think Hawaii is good, but bringing up the avca ranking to prove any point is with an astericks for the majority of the season with hawaii. They are moving up almost exclusively because other teams are moving down, not the same as moving up because of big wins." You seem to contradict yourself. First, you say Hawaii is good. Then you imply Hawaii is not good. I'm not sure how saying me thinking Hawaii is good, which they are, is the same thing as commenting on their relative position in the polls. I never implied Hawaii was NOT good. My reply was specifically to this comment "What? The season has just started and you're writing Hawaii off. Hawaii is ranked #10 and climbing, and winning the title or at least making the final four is not farfetched." IMO how Hawaii is treated in the polls right now does NOT have a large correlation to their post season prospects. My reason for saying so is because Hawaii moves up in the polls because other teams are losing, not because Hawaii is winning big matches. This comment has nothing to do with whether or not I think that Hawaii is a good team or not. I think Hawaii IS good, I surely don't want to see them in the Washington regional, should we host again. If you lose you didn't win. Same thing with the opposite. If you win, you didn't lose. Hawaii moved up because other teams lost and because it won. Yes, it's that simple. It can be mind boggling to make sense of why Florida beat Texas, but lost to Hawaii, Missouri, Kentucky. Why Penn St lost. Why Stanford is ranked high but has not lived up to it. Eventually, you come a full circle and get enlightened like Buddha.
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Post by pineapple on Oct 3, 2015 14:18:58 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong. I think your point is that Hawaii's opponents are not that good, thus beating them doesn't necessarily mean Hawaii should be so highly ranked. I would agree. But what about illinois, Penn St and Florida? Were they over ranked? They lost.
Every national champion got there because of whom they played and beat. If everything were equal, schedules, opponents, home court advantages, etc., I would feel safe to say that the champions would probably be different in most if not all cases.
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 3, 2015 14:27:22 GMT -5
Almost all OPP's have a half rotation on the left, it's a product of the serve reception pattern and teams not wanting the OPP running all the way to the other side of the court. Does she play any defensive rotations (where Hawaii serves the ball) on the left? I recall watching the UCLA and Florida match, I remember Taylor falling into the traditional serve receive patterns. THIS does NOT make Taylor and OH. FYI....Yes she does play on the left when Hawaii serves. Like I said she is not a true Opposite, if you seen more than one Hawaii game (And not clips) you would know this. I did watch those matches in their entirety earlier in the year, perhaps I just missed this hybrid OH/OPP playtime of Taylor. If so, my apologies.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 14:30:10 GMT -5
Maybe this year is finally Jessica Gysin's year.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 14:31:32 GMT -5
Kadie Rolfzen hit .310 in the last 3 sets against PSU. If she can consistently play at that level, she's in the running. She can't even consistently play at a level good enough to keep her in the lineup - what gives you any indication she's going to consistently hit over .300?
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