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Post by ay2013 on Oct 5, 2015 17:35:29 GMT -5
No, the premise was that any of the top 16 could go on a run and WIN IT ALL, not that they could go on a run. It just doesn't happen. UCLA, at 9, is the closest to that happening, since Stanford at 12 or 13 or whatever the hell they were. Grumble, grumble, grumble. very true. I'd also like to point out that those team's seeds were a reflection of rpi bias which does NOT show a teams strength, but rather their strength of schedule. entering the tournament UCLA was ranked #4 and Stanford ranked #6.
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Post by volleyfan24 on Oct 5, 2015 17:41:24 GMT -5
I have no idea how good Hawaii is that's the biggest question mark to me. They have a 5 set win over Florida but other than that all their opponents are mediocre at best. Also a loss against UCLA. Shoji knows the RPI game I am unsure why he doesn't schedule better. Is Hawaii contenders or pretenders. They should win out in their conference and not lose the rest of the way lets see if that happens.
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Post by SuperSpike on Oct 5, 2015 19:04:45 GMT -5
I have no idea how good Hawaii is that's the biggest question mark to me. They have a 5 set win over Florida but other than that all their opponents are mediocre at best. Also a loss against UCLA. Shoji knows the RPI game I am unsure why he doesn't schedule better. Is Hawaii contenders or pretenders. They should win out in their conference and not lose the rest of the way lets see if that happens. I think Hawaii has pieces (elite RH, ball control) but I think their offense can probably be contained by a strong blocking/defending team.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 5, 2015 19:16:11 GMT -5
I have no idea how good Hawaii is that's the biggest question mark to me. They have a 5 set win over Florida but other than that all their opponents are mediocre at best. Also a loss against UCLA. Shoji knows the RPI game I am unsure why he doesn't schedule better. Is Hawaii contenders or pretenders. They should win out in their conference and not lose the rest of the way lets see if that happens. I think Hawaii has pieces (elite RH, ball control) but I think their offense can probably be contained by a strong blocking/defending team.
Laughing because Hawai'i was not a good ball control team in the beginning of the season. I think it's steadied out though allowing their middles to be much more active. Nikki Taylor gets all the recognition but Hawaii's middle trio (Magill, Maglio and Mitchem) is very good. Hawai'i definitely has the pieces, if Tai Manu-Olevao gets into a good rhythm, they have the potential to be an elite team. Btw, Hawai'i just moved into the top spot as the best blocking team in the country... www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1
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Post by SuperSpike on Oct 5, 2015 19:20:30 GMT -5
So basically the Pac 12 and Big 10 will dominate the first and second seeds in all 4 regions. Wow. What a joke. Don't leave us hanging.. Whatcha think'n for 1-15?
I genuinely am curious. Are the BIG/PAC teams worse than we think or are some SEC/Big 12/Hawaii teams better or both?
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Post by Victory At Hand on Oct 5, 2015 19:46:09 GMT -5
I have no idea how good Hawaii is that's the biggest question mark to me. They have a 5 set win over Florida but other than that all their opponents are mediocre at best. Also a loss against UCLA. Shoji knows the RPI game I am unsure why he doesn't schedule better. Is Hawaii contenders or pretenders. They should win out in their conference and not lose the rest of the way lets see if that happens. The loss to UCLA was a good wake-up call for the Wahine. It has made them a better team. They rarely set the middles against the Bruins, and the outsides got majority of the sets. And so the week leading up to playing Florida, SDSU, and E. Washington, they worked on trying to establish the middles, Higgins connection with all three middles have been really good. They also worked on speeding up the offense especially sets to the pins. You can see a big difference from watching matches in the beginning of the season to the most recent ones. The middles are now very involved in Hawaii's offense, and are receiving majority of the sets, and they have been dominant. It takes a lot of pressure off of Nikki Taylor having to carry the load. It would be nice to see a rematch against the Bruins, and I know they can win. Hawaii's block has really come on strong. I think they are clicking on all cylinders from the service line to passing, to blocking.
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Post by SuperSpike on Oct 5, 2015 19:49:24 GMT -5
I think Hawaii has pieces (elite RH, ball control) but I think their offense can probably be contained by a strong blocking/defending team.
Laughing because Hawai'i was not a good ball control team in the beginning of the season. I think it's steadied out though allowing their middles to be much more active. Nikki Taylor gets all the recognition but Hawaii's middle trio (Magill, Maglio and Mitchem) is very good. Hawai'i definitely has the pieces, if Tai Manu-Olevao gets into a good rhythm, they have the potential to be an elite team. Btw, Hawai'i just moved into the top spot as the best blocking team in the country... www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1Yeah come to think of it.. It was probably more the transition control than the passing that looked good vs Florida (when I saw HI) and it probably looked amazing in my head because Florida control was so shabby.
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Post by volleyballfan99 on Oct 5, 2015 19:56:51 GMT -5
Just wondering, when was the last time a Top 5 team was not seeded?
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 5, 2015 19:59:43 GMT -5
Just wondering, when was the last time a Top 5 team was not seeded? I don't think it's ever happened, at least not in the current format of the tournament. Generally, top 5 teams have very high win-loss records against other teams that have very high win-loss records. That's going to lead to a good RPI, which leads to a seed.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Oct 5, 2015 20:03:48 GMT -5
I think Hawaii has pieces (elite RH, ball control) but I think their offense can probably be contained by a strong blocking/defending team.
Laughing because Hawai'i was not a good ball control team in the beginning of the season. I think it's steadied out though allowing their middles to be much more active. Nikki Taylor gets all the recognition but Hawaii's middle trio (Magill, Maglio and Mitchem) is very good. Hawai'i definitely has the pieces, if Tai Manu-Olevao gets into a good rhythm, they have the potential to be an elite team. Btw, Hawai'i just moved into the top spot as the best blocking team in the country... www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1Blockig, in all the years I've watched, besides last year, was never a strength for the wahine, besides a few good blockers. It's amazing that we can be number one.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 5, 2015 20:42:16 GMT -5
Laughing because Hawai'i was not a good ball control team in the beginning of the season. I think it's steadied out though allowing their middles to be much more active. Nikki Taylor gets all the recognition but Hawaii's middle trio (Magill, Maglio and Mitchem) is very good. Hawai'i definitely has the pieces, if Tai Manu-Olevao gets into a good rhythm, they have the potential to be an elite team. Btw, Hawai'i just moved into the top spot as the best blocking team in the country... www.ncaa.com/stats/volleyball-women/d1Blockig, in all the years I've watched, besides last year, was never a strength for the wahine, besides a few good blockers. It's amazing that we can be number one. Hawai'i has had some great blockers recently but the last time Hawai'i fielded a blocking team this good was back in 1999 (Bown's senior season.) Having height helps but Hawaii's coaching staff has done good work with this team.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 21:18:57 GMT -5
Kansas will only be affected, ratings-wise, if they lose to someone other than Texas. And the top Pac12 teams will fuel each other's ratings. Again, the only way they fall out of the top 10 is to lose to teams out of the top 10. Things are starting to get locked down. Of course, the B1G and Pac teams DO lose to teams out of the top 10. But will Kansas? Are you telling me, if Kansas loses to Texas twice, and badly, they will not fall out of the Top 10? I believe they will. Depends on what other teams are doing -- and they WILL be losing.
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Post by volleyballfan99 on Oct 5, 2015 21:45:19 GMT -5
Just wondering, when was the last time a Top 5 team was not seeded? I don't think it's ever happened, at least not in the current format of the tournament. Generally, top 5 teams have very high win-loss records against other teams that have very high win-loss records. That's going to lead to a good RPI, which leads to a seed. So Hawaii could be the very first Top 5 team to not be seeded. Now would that not be a slap in the committees face.
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Post by vbcoltrane on Oct 5, 2015 21:57:28 GMT -5
I don't think it's ever happened, at least not in the current format of the tournament. Generally, top 5 teams have very high win-loss records against other teams that have very high win-loss records. That's going to lead to a good RPI, which leads to a seed. So Hawaii could be the very first Top 5 team to not be seeded. Now would that not be a slap in the committees face. Stop getting ahead of yourself. There's a lot of season left. RPI matters a lot, but it isn't "everything." Maybe Hawaii will get seeded if they're ranked that high. Probably not in line with their rank, but seeded nonetheless. Don't be so negative. On the other hand, don't assume Hawaii will win out, will be ranked 4-5, and that a grave injustice is supposedly coming. Just chill and let the season play out.
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Post by wonderwarthog79 on Oct 5, 2015 23:13:16 GMT -5
Stanford only 32 points ahead of Hawai'i, but Stanford has "easy" games at home against Oregon and Oregon State. While Hawai'i has to play unranked but dangerous LBSU. Just checking: Is this a joke?
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