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Post by badgerbreath on Nov 29, 2015 18:01:32 GMT -5
Changing the subject: Can we discuss Haleigh Washington? For all the recruiting hype and physical talent, I haven't found her to be that dominant of a player this year. Her defense is suspect given her physical gifts and offensively she seems a little one-note. I know that passing/setting can have a big impact on MBs (e.g. Nebraska last year), but she's too talented to not be a force on both offense and defense, especially when PSU needs a momentum shift. Moreover, she seems like a really pleasant young lady, but could she be almost too nice/passive? PSU seems to be missing their traditional fiery leadership and an athlete of her caliber would be a great candidate to provide it but it doesn't seem to be in her personality. She really needs to improve her block-reading. She has the talent to be very good, but her technique and reading is not good at all. This is the first time where I really noticed that her blocking partnerships were ragged -- timing was off, reads were slow, blocks not closed. Maybe she is leaning a little too much on her physical gifts and not perfecting the technique. Some of it may have been Neb working against previous tendencies. But its a little harsh to complain about the player with the best overall HP in the B1G who is also 2nd in blocking. Maybe she should be better given her gifts, but she pretty damn good, and from I've seen she is an emotional leader.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 18:04:57 GMT -5
I would agree with you except I think it's the better teams she is struggling against. She is not a good blocker. (And her HP has nothing to do with her blocking.)
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Post by 1ezspike on Nov 29, 2015 18:10:33 GMT -5
That ball was down! (Click to enlarge.) Try looking at this still instead; yours was either too early or too late. That ball was UP!!! Her hands and thumbs were under that ball. Nebraska was still going to win, PSU played poorly. This is more a knock on the horrible speed and resolution of the replay cameras.
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Post by huskerjen on Nov 29, 2015 18:13:21 GMT -5
She really needs to improve her block-reading. She has the talent to be very good, but her technique and reading is not good at all. This is the first time where I really noticed that her blocking partnerships were ragged -- timing was off, reads were slow, blocks not closed. Maybe she is leaning a little too much on her physical gifts and not perfecting the technique. Some of it may have been Neb working against previous tendencies. But its a little harsh to complain about the player with the best overall HP in the B1G who is also 2nd in blocking. Maybe she should be better given her gifts, but she pretty damn good, and from I've seen she is an emotional leader. That's just how much I respect her potential. I would never say she isn't good, but she could be incredible with some improvements.
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Post by FrancisFrogg on Nov 29, 2015 19:38:40 GMT -5
Very Nice. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 19:51:54 GMT -5
Try looking at this still instead; yours was either too early or too late. That ball was UP!!! Her hands and thumbs were under that ball. Nebraska was still going to win, PSU played poorly. This is more a knock on the horrible speed and resolution of the replay cameras. Yes, we should have had cameras from Penn State.........Oh, that's right, Penn State doesn't have cameras. Clearly you're missing my point. I said in an earlier post that the replay review system, which went into effect just this year, is a work-in-progress. Only 3 schools in the Big10 are using it and the cameras they're using are low quality. They need more cameras to cover all the angles and of better quality. Having said that, I believe, this is ONE of the issues which needs to be addressed and corrected IF they intend to continue using the replay review system. Otherwise, what's the point when a review is questioned by so many people (regardless whether they are for or against the call).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 19:55:22 GMT -5
I still haven't seen a picture in which I have conclusively seen the ball hitting the floor and compressing. Also I didn't notice any funky spin off the ball when watching it live, which I would expect if the ball hit the floor. That said I think Nebraska still deserved to win, they are definitely the better team than Penn State. Agreed on all counts.
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Post by MTC on Nov 29, 2015 21:51:38 GMT -5
I don't think PSU learns anything "new" from this match, knowing the challenges isn't the issue. Secondly, Rose isn't playing, players and on court leadership need to figure it out quickly. Has it occurred to anyone that PSU is probably finishing about where they should given their losses to graduation/leadership? This is what I expected, and stated several times..........not as a PSU hater but as a realist. You cannot lose a top 2 setter and your two key floor defensive players and not have like replacements and expect to be at the same level.
When PSU has lost this year it has been the same problem.........passing & inexperienced setter.
I can't buy the inexperienced setter line b/c she was RSFr while Minnesota had a true freshman who played very well.
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Post by MTC on Nov 29, 2015 21:56:12 GMT -5
I do not think Pierce is the answer to save passing problems. I don't think it will improve by the end of the season. After 3 starts in her career and the most difficult environment for any Libero to experience? You maybe correct but she certainly rose to the challenge in game 3. Yes, but no points for a hard worker award.
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Post by rand909 on Nov 29, 2015 23:36:50 GMT -5
This is simply classless on the part of the Nebraska program. Every other program I know of in the BIG seats the visiting parents near court side so they can watch their kids play and the players can see them. Why someone asked? Because without the players (home & visiting) you don't have a show to sell your 8000 fans... and by extension, without the parents who paid for years of club and watched countless hours of kiddie v-ball you don't have a show either.
Bad on you Nebraska!
What does the parents' financial investment have to do with anything? Without the universities offering scholarships, building facilities, etc., all the DDs would be playing in a YMCA rec league to scratch their volleyball itch. It goes both ways, it's symbiotic. If the Huskers weren't a hot ticket they would probably comp quality seats. While I would like opposing parents to have better seats, Nebraska certainly isn't obligated to offer such accommodations, nor should they be expected to do so. It is very easy to criticize that which you don't understand. Every, yes EVERY, seat in the complex has been sold. There is a waiting list for season tickets. If your team has seats available close to the court it is only because no one has bought them! Nebraska owes its allegiance to its fans, those who provide financial support and loyalty. It owes no loyalty to visiting-team parents. Get over yourself.
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Post by huskerjen on Nov 29, 2015 23:38:08 GMT -5
What does the parents' financial investment have to do with anything? Without the universities offering scholarships, building facilities, etc., all the DDs would be playing in a YMCA rec league to scratch their volleyball itch. It goes both ways, it's symbiotic. If the Huskers weren't a hot ticket they would probably comp quality seats. While I would like opposing parents to have better seats, Nebraska certainly isn't obligated to offer such accommodations, nor should they be expected to do so. It is very easy to criticize that which you don't understand. Every, yes EVERY, seat in the complex has been sold. There is a waiting list for season tickets. If your team has seats available close to the court it is only because no one has bought them! Nebraska owes its allegiance to its fans, those who provide financial support and loyalty. It owes no loyalty to visiting-team parents. Get over yourself. Why did you quote me?
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Post by vbkid111 on Nov 30, 2015 16:42:54 GMT -5
After 3 starts in her career and the most difficult environment for any Libero to experience? You maybe correct but she certainly rose to the challenge in game 3. Yes, but no points for a hard worker award. Probably true. I mean, you are constantly "working hard" to pretend you know what you are talking about, but it never quite comes to fruition. Regardless, PSU lost this one at the net--shredded wheat block (when they weren't in the net), hitting errors galore, not putting Nebraska overpasses away, getting caught flat-footed on numerous setter dumps (how many times??), not putting up at least two blockers on a high two ball, etc. The Huskers were more than anything serving very aggressively to the 1-zone, and even when PSU eventually handled it better and stayed in system, it didn't seem to matter--they had MAJOR trouble siding out when Brianna was taking the ball from that zone.
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Post by huskerjen on Nov 30, 2015 19:44:25 GMT -5
So, do you guys think the ball hit the floor?
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Post by akbar on Nov 30, 2015 20:02:12 GMT -5
So, do you guys think the ball hit the floor? #1 It did not hit the floor. #2 The 2nd referee overstepped his boundary using poor grade camera technology that did NOT provide indisputable video evidence to overturn the initial call. #3 that match was eons ago and both teams have bigger concerns and so do all of us. Good luck to your team. Hope to beat you in the Finals.
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Post by huskerjen on Nov 30, 2015 20:05:26 GMT -5
So, do you guys think the ball hit the floor? #1 It did not hit the floor. #2 The 2nd referee overstepped his boundary using poor grade camera technology that did NOT provide indisputable video evidence to overturn the initial call. #3 that match was eons ago and both teams have bigger concerns and so do all of us. Good luck to your team. Hope to beat you in the Finals. I probably should've used a winking emoji. I was being sarcastic toward everyone arguing about it well after the fact.
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