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Post by BadgerAce42 on Dec 20, 2015 15:32:18 GMT -5
LOL. Probably the closest she'll get to a collegiate championship match again. Not only is this comment lacking in class, it also makes no sense since 1) she will almost certainly be in the same position next year as an AA, and 2) the badgers will probably be significantly improved next year, with much greater depth at all positions, and will have as good a shot at the final four as at any time during her time at Madison. Next year will be interesting. Can't wait to see the new schedule. What also kills me about the Carlini comment is 1) The Huskers just WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. Go celebrate your team because the young women played great; don't troll other threads. Huskers fans are usually more respectful. 2) Carlini might not have a championship yet, but Wisconsin has OWNED Nebraska the past two seasons.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 20, 2015 15:56:21 GMT -5
Not only is this comment lacking in class, it also makes no sense since 1) she will almost certainly be in the same position next year as an AA, and 2) the badgers will probably be significantly improved next year, with much greater depth at all positions, and will have as good a shot at the final four as at any time during her time at Madison. Next year will be interesting. Can't wait to see the new schedule. What also kills me about the Carlini comment is 1) The Huskers just WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. Go celebrate your team because the young women played great; don't troll other threads. Huskers fans are usually more respectful. 2) Carlini might not have a championship yet, but Wisconsin has OWNED Nebraska the past two seasons. #1 Is why it is lacking in class. Husker fans have every reason to be proud, and most manage that without disrespect. The probability than any one in the nation sees the national championship match is pretty low, so singling out one player is pointlessly trite. #2 Probably explains why the comment was made, and why Carlini was, in fact, probably thinking something quite the opposite.
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Post by volleyfan24 on Dec 20, 2015 16:20:45 GMT -5
Carlini has the ability to make even the most average hitters great with her tempo and placement and consistency my question to Badger fans are a few things.
Is Molly Haggerty able to take the OH1 role and be Wisconsin's ace hitter?
Is a Morey replacement in the pipeline her floor D and serve receive are upper tier?
As long as Carlini is setter this team will be a contender but I feel like every season Wisconsin has lacked a player the caliber of Bricio, Santana, Courtney. Does Wisconsin have that coming in or someone who could develop to that level?
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 20, 2015 17:18:18 GMT -5
Carlini has the ability to make even the most average hitters great with her tempo and placement and consistency my question to Badger fans are a few things. Is Molly Haggerty able to take the OH1 role and be Wisconsin's ace hitter? Is a Morey replacement in the pipeline her floor D and serve receive are upper tier? As long as Carlini is setter this team will be a contender but I feel like every season Wisconsin has lacked a player the caliber of Bricio, Santana, Courtney. Does Wisconsin have that coming in or someone who could develop to that level? Morey replacement will be Amac, who did very well this year despite a playing through a nasty arm injury, and Wisc Gatorade Player of the year ME Dodge, who Tawa and others say will be an excellent physical, intelligent libero based on her club play. There is also a good DS candidate in Sarah Dodd, who was on the all state team. Robbins, the setter transfer from UCLA, is also supposed to have good defensive and passing skills. There is another DS walkon as well who looks promising. Basically, there will be a whole covey of possible replacements and fill-ins at DS. I think it is a myth that the badger "need" a hitter like Bricio to make a run. Such a hitter wouldn't hurt, mind you, but the UW offense was clicking pretty well most of the latter half of the season and was near the top of the big in many categories even without a Santana, Courtney, Birks or Drews. As for who will step up, Williams I think will get better this year after hitting 0.330. Gillis really improved as the season went on, recovering from some serious confidence and motivational issues. She became especially effective OOS. I see her as continuing that progress and being more consistent. Bates had a bit of a sophomore slump, but also improved after some midseason frustration and had an excellent match against Florida - until the end when her repeated errors were crucial. Duello could be a player next year with a spring behind her. She barely got a chance to acclimate and train this year before the season started - Sheff was thinking of redshirting her. Kriskova still seemed to be struggling off and on with exhaustion after a year and a half out. I expect that to get better with more time. When she is on she is a beast. Then there is Haggerty. The badgers rarely hit under 0.280 the last half of the B1G season, and hit 0.270 in conference overall. I could see that rising to 0.280 next year simply because they won't have to go through that early season growing period. That will put them near or at the top of the conference. If players and teamwork improves further, it could go higher, and that is without Haggerty. So offense is not one of the things I worry about. I worry about serving and the effect that has on our defense in key matches, like against Florida. No one can beat a team regularly that hits 0.350 against you, and that happens sometimes when you let them stay in system. That was the difference in that match.
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Post by scottysocc on Dec 20, 2015 17:22:17 GMT -5
I think if Wisconsin is going to seriously contend for a title next year they need an elite pin hinter. They have solid defense, and the best setter in the country, but they seem to lack a terminal outside. They don't necessarily need a Bricio or even Santana, but a player like the caliber of Gray or Neal on the outside would go a long way for them.
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Post by huskerjen on Dec 20, 2015 17:25:01 GMT -5
I think if Wisconsin is going to seriously contend for a title next year they need an elite pin hinter. They have solid defense, and the best setter in the country, but they seem to lack a terminal outside. They don't necessarily need a Bricio or even Santana, but a player like the caliber of Gray or Neal on the outside would go a long way for them. Good luck finding someone like Gray. I think she was every bit the offensive threat as Bricio and Santana.
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Post by scottysocc on Dec 20, 2015 17:28:43 GMT -5
I think if Wisconsin is going to seriously contend for a title next year they need an elite pin hinter. They have solid defense, and the best setter in the country, but they seem to lack a terminal outside. They don't necessarily need a Bricio or even Santana, but a player like the caliber of Gray or Neal on the outside would go a long way for them. Good luck finding someone like Gray. I think she was every bit the offensive threat as Bricio and Santana. I would disagree with that. But your missing my point. Not trying to start a "this player vs that player" debate. Just highlighting what I think would help Wisconsin next year.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 20, 2015 17:31:47 GMT -5
Yeah...someone like Gray would be asking a lot
Look, I'm not saying it wouldn't help. I saying that the reason this team didn't beat Florida had little to do with lack of a terminal outside. It had to do with inability to stop Florida's offense on the night. Florida played really clean on offense, and the badgers couldn't knock them out of their stride. That didn't happen against much better teams this year.
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Post by scottysocc on Dec 20, 2015 17:42:20 GMT -5
Yeah...someone like Gray would be asking a lot Look, I'm not saying it wouldn't help. I saying that the reason this team didn't beat Florida had little to do with lack of a terminal outside. It had to do with inability to stop Florida's offense on the night. Florida played really clean on offense, and the badgers couldn't knock them out of their stride. That didn't happen against much better teams this year. Yea I think the key to beating Florida is serving tough, taking them out of system, and limiting their ability to set Alhassan.
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Post by BadgerAce42 on Dec 20, 2015 18:54:40 GMT -5
Also, the next time we see this team (at least officially) they'll be wearing Under Amour. Ahhhhh, can't wait!
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Post by SportyBucky on Dec 21, 2015 9:10:43 GMT -5
Not only is this comment lacking in class, it also makes no sense since 1) she will almost certainly be in the same position next year as an AA, and 2) the badgers will probably be significantly improved next year, with much greater depth at all positions, and will have as good a shot at the final four as at any time during her time at Madison. Next year will be interesting. Can't wait to see the new schedule. What also kills me about the Carlini comment is 1) The Huskers just WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. Go celebrate your team because the young women played great; don't troll other threads. Huskers fans are usually more respectful. 2) Carlini might not have a championship yet, but Wisconsin has OWNED Nebraska the past two seasons. And owned NE at their place. With the right draw...
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Post by SportyBucky on Dec 21, 2015 9:13:29 GMT -5
I think if Wisconsin is going to seriously contend for a title next year they need an elite pin hinter. They have solid defense, and the best setter in the country, but they seem to lack a terminal outside. They don't necessarily need a Bricio or even Santana, but a player like the caliber of Gray or Neal on the outside would go a long way for them. What most people fail to realize is Kelly and Gillis hit for a high percentage against FL with 20 and 21 kills. What WI missed was middle production and tough serving, without which we won't beat a huge team like FL. We didn't stop Alhassan more than a few times in a five set match. If you can't limit a highly efficient player, you're not going to fare well. What's more, Holston decided to have the match of the season against us and flail against TX. Had she produced AT ALL against TX and not let those first few errors get into her head, FL would have been in the final four.
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 21, 2015 9:29:35 GMT -5
I'm curious who everyone would like to see the Badgers schedule in pre-conference next year.
Here are my thoughts, which are complicated by the ACC Challenge, which might make it not workable.
1. A tournament in North Carolina (for Nelson) - put WKU in there again, add maybe UNC-Charlotte, hosted by Duke (however, the ACC Challenge I think means the Badgers are at home for two ACC matches). Any other good non-ACC teams in North Carolina who could host? However, I would be nice to be in the Triangle region so the family would barely have to go anywhere. It would be a long drive for A-mac's family, but workable.
2. Florida or Kentucky in the mix. Kentucky might be sensitive, though.
3. A driveable tournament (Iowa State/UNI/NIU/ND State/Creighton)? Or maybe a trip up to MSP with 5 teams, MN/WI don't play each other.
4. Missouri and/or Missouri State in the mix. Heh, how about a Missouri/Missouri State/Kansas tournament?
If they do the ACC Challenge, for personal reasons, I would like to see Pitt (it should also be a solid RPI). Maybe Pitt/Florida State.
I wonder if the Pac 12/Big 10 thing is back "on"? If so, Washington and UCLA.
What are everyone else's thoughts? Yes, I know I included more teams than could possibly be scheduled, but I was just throwing some out there (and mostly all difficult - ok, we could sub Davidson for WKU then...).
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Post by SportyBucky on Dec 21, 2015 9:42:07 GMT -5
I'm curious who everyone would like to see the Badgers schedule in pre-conference next year. Here are my thoughts, which are complicated by the ACC Challenge, which might make it not workable. 1. A tournament in North Carolina (for Nelson) - put WKU in there again, add maybe UNC-Charlotte, hosted by Duke (however, the ACC Challenge I think means the Badgers are at home for two ACC matches). Any other good non-ACC teams in North Carolina who could host? However, I would be nice to be in the Triangle region so the family would barely have to go anywhere. It would be a long drive for A-mac's family, but workable. 2. Florida or Kentucky in the mix. Kentucky might be sensitive, though. 3. A driveable tournament (Iowa State/UNI/NIU/ND State/Creighton)? Or maybe a trip up to MSP with 5 teams, MN/WI don't play each other. 4. Missouri and/or Missouri State in the mix. Heh, how about a Missouri/Missouri State/Kansas tournament? If they do the ACC Challenge, for personal reasons, I would like to see Pitt (it should also be a solid RPI). Maybe Pitt/Florida State. I wonder if the Pac 12/Big 10 thing is back "on"? If so, Washington and UCLA. What are everyone else's thoughts? Yes, I know I included more teams than could possibly be scheduled, but I was just throwing some out there (and mostly all difficult - ok, we could sub Davidson for WKU then...). With NCAA tourney hosting honors going to the highest seeds remaining after round two, it's critically important we balance Pablo/RPI with wins. We need to win our pre-season. Winning in the Big takes care of the ranking and RPI, but losing a few early could be the different between playing in NE, TX or WA, or being in Madison. We also need to figure out RS and OH, DS and libero, to have success in the Big, all of which takes time. We also need to win early. Thus, I'd rather play someone like MO, NC or WKU, and stay away from FL and KY.
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 21, 2015 13:18:33 GMT -5
Ok, so let's say we have both ACC and Pac 12 challenges. Let's ease off the pedal a little and stick with Pitt/Florida (2) State, but shift to Colorado/Washington State(2).
For a tourney in NC - we could go with Duke/UNC-Charlotte/Western Kentucky (3). If we have to sub out an ACC team, let's go with Coastal Carolina. Or, we could throw a random A-10 school in there. Of course, we don't get to decide who's in a Carolina tournament, assuming he's trying to get to North Carolina.
Assuming the Hotel Red, that's leaves 3. Missouri, Missouri State, and oh, North Dakota State. Often, there has been either a MAC or an MVC team in there, so other options could be NIU, UNI, Ohio.
I still probably made the competition too tough - no CoC, Georgia or Colgate.
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