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Post by ProfessorPlum on Dec 21, 2015 19:19:33 GMT -5
Well there you have it! The director of the club that is trying to get her recruited to Nebraska says she could play on the Olympic team. Makes sense to me. All kidding aside, she is fantastic player, I was just trying to slow the roll on the uber hype coming out of Knoxville for you Huskers. Very good player? Yes. Tons of upside? Yes. Top 15 ? I don't think so. Olympic team? Ok, whatever you say coach/director. And speaking of Florida, they did take an uber hype middle into that program just last year. Not sure MW would bite so quickly next time. I agree, there are some obvious parallels with Alhassan. I have not seen her compete against peer competition. I saw her carry her team in the Tennessee State tournament, where she had something like 35 kills in 60 attempts. I will try to make an effort to see her in Atlanta at the Beast event in February (I think they'll be there) and at Bluegrass. I don't doubt the possibility that she'll be a top 15 recruit next year, but realistically, it doesn't much matter what I (we) think. Her path lies before her, and she'll have every opportunity to maximize her potential. I agree JMA! But your post is an example of why I decided to start posting after 2000+ posts on PVB. So much mis-info over here. I know you are just a fan of hers and the Huskers and you must be feeling the high but let me give you a little info to add to your analysis. * Alhassan is from MAVBC in DC area, not K2. I was referring to the middle from K2 that went to UF and has not played. It understandable that you would not know her name. * She is nowhere near Alhassan's level. That's not meant as a dig as there are not many who are. * You watched her play HS? In Tenn? And she dominated? I would hope so. There is not very good competition in Tenn in HS. * I'm a huge fan of her club team and she is one of many pieces that make their team nationally competitive and fun to watch. However, they are a Top 40 team but not a Top 10 or even Top 20. They switched to JVA a couple of years ago avoiding most of the big time USAV competition. They won't be at Beast, but will be at SLC & Bluegrass where they will get a shot against some USAV heavyweights. They will be playing 18's even though most of them are 17's. * Your article mentions her 2015 AAU award. I'm sure it was well deserved but her age group conflicted with USAV and severely diluted that field. Just some facts. Again, Great player and you are correct...her destiny is hers and has nothing to do with my opinions or facts. I just thought the super-hype should be countered
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 19:36:36 GMT -5
I agree, there are some obvious parallels with Alhassan. I have not seen her compete against peer competition. I saw her carry her team in the Tennessee State tournament, where she had something like 35 kills in 60 attempts. I will try to make an effort to see her in Atlanta at the Beast event in February (I think they'll be there) and at Bluegrass. I don't doubt the possibility that she'll be a top 15 recruit next year, but realistically, it doesn't much matter what I (we) think. Her path lies before her, and she'll have every opportunity to maximize her potential. I agree JMA! But your post is an example of why I decided to start posting after 2000+ posts on PVB. So much mis-info over here. I know you are just a fan of hers and the Huskers and you must be feeling the high but let me give you a little info to add to your analysis. * Alhassan is from MAVBC in DC area, not K2. I was referring to the middle from K2 that went to UF and has not played. It understandable that you would not know her name. * She is nowhere near Alhassan's level. That's not meant as a dig as there are not many who are. * You watched her play HS? In Tenn? And she dominated? I would hope so. There is not very good competition in Tenn in HS. * I'm a huge fan of her club team and she is one of many pieces that make their team nationally competitive and fun to watch. However, they are a Top 40 team but not a Top 10 or even Top 20. They switched to JVA a couple of years ago avoiding most of the big time USAV competition. They won't be at Beast, but will be at SLC & Bluegrass where they will get a shot against some USAV heavyweights. They will be playing 18's even though most of them are 17's. * Your article mentions her 2015 AAU award. I'm sure it was well deserved but her age group conflicted with USAV and severely diluted that field. Just some facts. Again, Great player and you are correct...her destiny is hers and has nothing to do with my opinions or facts. I just thought the super-hype should be countered In this class I would say Brionne Butler is an Alhassan-like athlete. Not a perfect comparison, but definitely some similarities.
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Post by g8rvball on Dec 21, 2015 19:39:50 GMT -5
there is only one Alhassan! That statement could be particularly true in about 5 years or so with proper training and development. Her athletic ceiling is just really freakish.
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Post by ProfessorPlum on Dec 21, 2015 19:48:04 GMT -5
there is only one Alhassan! That statement could be particularly true in about 5 years or so with proper training and development. Her athletic ceiling is just really freakish. Couldn't agree more! Once in a decade type potential.
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Post by jma1968 on Dec 21, 2015 19:59:49 GMT -5
Too many quotes to quote the threads without adding confusion... so just some quick responses.
Point well taken on the Knoxville kid currently at Florida. Yes, I do not know her name, but I can picture her. Short hair, very big jumper, but as a 6' middle, she'd better be. Her Florida offer didn't make sense to me at the time, and it doesn't now.
You restated my point on McLellan, in particular as to how she looks against sub-par competition. You missed my major point, which was perhaps my error in not stating it more clearly... it will be telling how she looks against peer competition. She and her K2 team are playing 18's this year, so it will be a telling club season. But based on what I have seen, and extrapolating from previous VB experience, I believe that she will meet or exceed the expectations placed on her by her club director's published comments, and the tacit endorsement from Nebraska inherent in her offer. I don't know enough about the rest of the 2017 class to place her as a Top X (X=10, 20, whatever) recruit, but wanted those who have not seen her to be aware of her name, in case she ends up near or at the top of the heap of that class.
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Post by ProfessorPlum on Dec 21, 2015 20:12:27 GMT -5
JMA: We are on the same page. Her destiny is hers and she is certainly a top 100 (maybe Top 15 with some maturation) in 2017. I think it was the Olympic team stuff that made me pump the brakes. Hames, her setter, is the one I would be super pumped about if I was a Husker's fan. Top 3 2018 setter IMHO.
You're correct that Husker fans will know more about their future middle watching her compete against the 18's.
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Post by northwoods on Dec 21, 2015 20:16:41 GMT -5
Well there you have it! The director of the club that is trying to get her recruited to Nebraska says she could play on the Olympic team. Makes sense to me. All kidding aside, she is fantastic player, I was just trying to slow the roll on the uber hype coming out of Knoxville for you Huskers. Very good player? Yes. Tons of upside? Yes. Top 15 ? I don't think so. Olympic team? Ok, whatever you say coach/director. And speaking of Florida, they did take an uber hype middle into that program just last year. Not sure MW would bite so quickly next time. I agree, there are some obvious parallels with Alhassan. I have not seen her compete against peer competition. I saw her carry her team in the Tennessee State tournament, where she had something like 35 kills in 60 attempts. I will try to make an effort to see her in Atlanta at the Beast event in February (I think they'll be there) and at Bluegrass. I don't doubt the possibility that she'll be a top 15 reRolling up to G now.cruit next year, but realistically, it doesn't much matter what I (we) think. Her path lies before her, and she'll have every opportunity to maximize her potential. I saw her Scrimage Rettke @ the HP tryout in Indy last year & Rettke dominated the court. Also at a SPVB tourney over Pres Day where both looked good and K2 was clearly the better, more balanced team. K2' coach had Chesney come in as M2 so they were rarely on the court at the same time. I believe they both went to Neb camp a couple years ago and are friends. They were hanging out at AAU's between matches on adjacent courts.
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Post by Sbilo on Dec 21, 2015 20:35:13 GMT -5
The longer the top recruit stays uncommitted...the better for Stanford! lol
After a (arguably) top 2016 recruiting year, Stanford won't have room for someone unless that is a top OH. Stanford will have a junior Hodson, senior Lutz/Vanjak, a sophomore Fitz/Keefe/Plummer/Gray/Hentz and all those back-up middles (Alade/Froistad/Bowen) and DS.
What Stanford will hope is an amazing 2018 recruiting...which I think is going to happen.
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Post by jasonr on Dec 21, 2015 20:43:16 GMT -5
I agree, there are some obvious parallels with Alhassan. I have not seen her compete against peer competition. I saw her carry her team in the Tennessee State tournament, where she had something like 35 kills in 60 attempts. I will try to make an effort to see her in Atlanta at the Beast event in February (I think they'll be there) and at Bluegrass. I don't doubt the possibility that she'll be a top 15 reRolling up to G now.cruit next year, but realistically, it doesn't much matter what I (we) think. Her path lies before her, and she'll have every opportunity to maximize her potential. I saw her Scrimage Rettke @ the HP tryout in Indy last year & Rettke dominated the court. Also at a SPVB tourney over Pres Day where both looked good and K2 was clearly the better, more balanced team. K2' coach had Chesney come in as M2 so they were rarely on the court at the same time. I believe they both went to Neb camp a couple years ago and are friends. They were hanging out at AAU's between matches on adjacent courts. ^Jumping in, I think Rettke is definitely more polished at this point than McClellan but we also have to project forward a few years when talking about prospects. I think it's a little telling that Sheffield did offer McClellan before Rettke. It was only after McClellan committed to Nebraska did Shef double his effort to land Rettke. Of course, we're splitting hairs, they're both fantastic prospects. Rettke is taller and more skilled right now, McClellan probably has the higher ceiling based on athleticism. Both have the potential to be phenomenal in college.
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Post by jasonr on Dec 21, 2015 20:44:01 GMT -5
The longer the top recruit stays uncommitted...the better for Stanford! lol After a (arguably) top 2016 recruiting year, Stanford won't have room for someone unless that is a top OH. Stanford will have a junior Hodson, senior Lutz/Vanjak, a sophomore Fitz/Keefe/Plummer/Gray/Hentz and all those back-up middles (Alade/Froistad/Bowen) and DS. What Stanford will hope is an amazing 2018 recruiting...which I think is going to happen. Sun is already committed to Texas. She's likely the #1 for 2017.
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Post by Sbilo on Dec 21, 2015 21:19:34 GMT -5
^ Not talking about Sun. There could be other recruits waiting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 23:00:29 GMT -5
I saw her Scrimage Rettke @ the HP tryout in Indy last year & Rettke dominated the court. Also at a SPVB tourney over Pres Day where both looked good and K2 was clearly the better, more balanced team. K2' coach had Chesney come in as M2 so they were rarely on the court at the same time. I believe they both went to Neb camp a couple years ago and are friends. They were hanging out at AAU's between matches on adjacent courts. ^Jumping in, I think Rettke is definitely more polished at this point than McClellan but we also have to project forward a few years when talking about prospects. I think it's a little telling that Sheffield did offer McClellan before Rettke. It was only after McClellan committed to Nebraska did Shef double his effort to land Rettke. Of course, we're splitting hairs, they're both fantastic prospects. Rettke is taller and more skilled right now, McClellan probably has the higher ceiling based on athleticism. Both have the potential to be phenomenal in college. im fairly certain neb and penn st also offered rettke tho. It was in an article when she committed to Madison. And Stanford offered her in basketball.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 23:02:40 GMT -5
^Jumping in, I think Rettke is definitely more polished at this point than McClellan but we also have to project forward a few years when talking about prospects. I think it's a little telling that Sheffield did offer McClellan before Rettke. It was only after McClellan committed to Nebraska did Shef double his effort to land Rettke. Of course, we're splitting hairs, they're both fantastic prospects. Rettke is taller and more skilled right now, McClellan probably has the higher ceiling based on athleticism. Both have the potential to be phenomenal in college. im fairly certain neb and penn st also offered rettke tho. It was in an article when she committed to Madison. And Stanford offered her in basketball. I've only seen Rettke a few times, but I am impressed by her relative agility and coordination for being 6-7
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Dec 21, 2015 23:31:54 GMT -5
I agree JMA! But your post is an example of why I decided to start posting after 2000+ posts on PVB. So much mis-info over here. I know you are just a fan of hers and the Huskers and you must be feeling the high but let me give you a little info to add to your analysis. * Alhassan is from MAVBC in DC area, not K2. I was referring to the middle from K2 that went to UF and has not played. It understandable that you would not know her name. * She is nowhere near Alhassan's level. That's not meant as a dig as there are not many who are. * You watched her play HS? In Tenn? And she dominated? I would hope so. There is not very good competition in Tenn in HS. * I'm a huge fan of her club team and she is one of many pieces that make their team nationally competitive and fun to watch. However, they are a Top 40 team but not a Top 10 or even Top 20. They switched to JVA a couple of years ago avoiding most of the big time USAV competition. They won't be at Beast, but will be at SLC & Bluegrass where they will get a shot against some USAV heavyweights. They will be playing 18's even though most of them are 17's. * Your article mentions her 2015 AAU award. I'm sure it was well deserved but her age group conflicted with USAV and severely diluted that field. Just some facts. Again, Great player and you are correct...her destiny is hers and has nothing to do with my opinions or facts. I just thought the super-hype should be countered In this class I would say Brionne Butler is an Alhassan-like athlete. Not a perfect comparison, but definitely some similarities. Brionne already has an approach touch of 10ft 11 inches. I think she's only going to get stronger/jump higher. I can see her being similar to Bailey Webster.
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Post by northwoods on Dec 22, 2015 0:17:36 GMT -5
I saw her Scrimage Rettke @ the HP tryout in Indy last year & Rettke dominated the court. Also at a SPVB tourney over Pres Day where both looked good and K2 was clearly the better, more balanced team. K2' coach had Chesney come in as M2 so they were rarely on the court at the same time. I believe they both went to Neb camp a couple years ago and are friends. They were hanging out at AAU's between matches on adjacent courts. ^Jumping in, I think Rettke is definitely more polished at this point than McClellan but we also have to project forward a few years when talking about prospects. I think it's a little telling that Sheffield did offer McClellan before Rettke. It was only after McClellan committed to Nebraska did Shef double his effort to land Rettke. Of course, we're splitting hairs, they're both fantastic prospects. Rettke is taller and more skilled right now, McClellan probably has the higher ceiling based on athleticism. Both have the potential to be phenomenal in college. I'm pretty sure McClellan committed to NU a couple weeks after Rettke's Wisconsin commitment was announced from the articles I remember. Would be hard to know who offered who when outside of the player & the family's. I'm guessing both Sheffield & Cook had the chance to tell them how they could play as freshmen, be on the Olympic team, dream big , bring it and all the other fun stuff that goes with recruiting;)
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