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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 9, 2016 2:32:24 GMT -5
We know you will!
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 9, 2016 2:55:25 GMT -5
A lot of people seem to be ignoring the fact that Nebraska has had great passing and defense for a long time but didn't win a title until they got a big banger to step up on the left. Look at the past decade as a whole and compare the two approaches. True, but deceptive. There was another more important reason why Nebraska won the title last year. (And although I agree with BiK about W-O, she isn't it.) I knew you were going to bring that up but that's not the reason. Yes, it was a factor but on a much smaller scale than you may believe.
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Post by gobruins on Sept 9, 2016 13:20:20 GMT -5
Liberos are another story. There remain many college coaches who won't recommend any libero for our list, arguing they can make a libero from a surplus outside or setter. They also are harder to evaluate. Those coaches need to ask John Cook how important Wong Orantes was for the Huskers last year. It doesn't matter how good attackers are, great defenders separate championship teams from those that come in second place. Justine Wong-Orantes was a setter in high school, and she was not ranked in the top 250 Senior Aces. Which makes JT's (and some of the coach's) point.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 9, 2016 13:35:45 GMT -5
Those coaches need to ask John Cook how important Wong Orantes was for the Huskers last year. It doesn't matter how good attackers are, great defenders separate championship teams from those that come in second place. Justine Wong-Orantes was a setter in high school, and she was not ranked in the top 250 Senior Aces. Which makes JT's (and some of the coach's) point. Well, can't disagree with that because it's true but I believe that Wong-Orantes is the exception rather than the rule (that a setter or OH can be easily converted).
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Post by FreeBall on Sept 9, 2016 13:50:31 GMT -5
Justine Wong-Orantes was a setter in high school, and she was not ranked in the top 250 Senior Aces. Which makes JT's (and some of the coach's) point. Well, can't disagree with that because it's true but I believe that Wong-Orantes is the exception rather than the rule (that a setter or OH can be easily converted). Agreed 100%. Most prospects don't have the extensive beach resume that JWO possessed at that point in time. Coming out of high school, her skill set included much more than setting.
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Post by #skoskers on Sept 9, 2016 13:54:08 GMT -5
Justine Wong-Orantes was a setter in high school, and she was not ranked in the top 250 Senior Aces. Which makes JT's (and some of the coach's) point. Well, can't disagree with that because it's true but I believe that Wong-Orantes is the exception rather than the rule (that a setter or OH can be easily converted). Not at Nebraska... Busboom was a setter-turned-libero. Banwarth played OH in her prep days before switching to libero at UNL, and, as previously mentioned, Justine was a standout beach player and setter before she became our libero.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 14:05:01 GMT -5
Well, can't disagree with that because it's true but I believe that Wong-Orantes is the exception rather than the rule (that a setter or OH can be easily converted). Not at Nebraska... Busboom was a setter-turned-libero. Banwarth played OH in her prep days before switching to libero at UNL, and, as previously mentioned, Justine was a standout beach player and setter before she became our libero. Banwarth was also a setter before NU.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Sept 9, 2016 14:08:23 GMT -5
Miyashiro (S); Hagglund (OH)
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 9, 2016 14:24:12 GMT -5
Look at the players you guys are citing, these are the exceptions, not the rule. Not every recruit is going to have the skill set of these players, have beach experience, or end up at Nebraska.
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Post by #skoskers on Sept 9, 2016 14:25:35 GMT -5
Not at Nebraska... Busboom was a setter-turned-libero. Banwarth played OH in her prep days before switching to libero at UNL, and, as previously mentioned, Justine was a standout beach player and setter before she became our libero. Banwarth was also a setter before NU. Right, but mostly an OH.
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Post by Viki on Sept 10, 2016 12:15:53 GMT -5
Look at the players you guys are citing, these are the exceptions, not the rule. Not every recruit is going to have the skill set of these players, have beach experience, or end up at Nebraska. Fight the power, all sacks and balls. ------- Shaney Lipscomb: I'LL TAKE THE LIBERTY TO PLACE HER AT #101. San Diego Catholic. She plays a combination of MB and OH. Perhaps Opp is her next starring position; UH will be needing someone to fill in a Big void (next 2017). JT-??. sometimes making not much sense as UCLA gets a whole bunch, I mean half the Bruin's roster, out of La Jolla as Prepvolleyball.com Senior Aces. Shaney played against those girls often recognized as a great presence..P.O.M kind of player. Player Of the Match types. smh
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Post by bayarea on Sept 10, 2016 23:55:08 GMT -5
I think many people take these rankings way too seriously. They are a best guess prognosis from a number of college coaches. They are not a crystal ball.
Tonight, I watched a streamed match between Cal and Santa Clara. Cal has 8 Senior Aces on their roster, who during their respective years were ranked #5, #20, #35, #51, #63, #65, #83 and #93. For most of the match, Cal was soundly beaten by a team that had exactly ZERO ranked senior aces, and was playing without their star setter (who herself was on the "just missed the top 100 list"). Santa Clara's star OH, who was HM All America last year, wasn't listed anywhere in the top 250 senior aces in her class. The Senior Ace number is just a nice accolade for the player to put on their resume. It does not determine their level of effort and success in college, or how their college career will look. That is up to the player, their fit in their college program, and perhaps a significant amount to the coaching they receive to develop their talent.
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