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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 16:45:38 GMT -5
So early in the season and it's obvious both teams have their own issues to work through. I'm looking forward to watching Texas play A&M, see how their passing and setting is. As for the Badgers, Gillis will be out. No excuses though. Badgers need to be prepared for injuries. It could drastically change the Badgers back court though. I agree with the prior post, UW's middles can hang with anyone in the nation, but I don't think the Badgers can pull this one out with out Gillis. Her absence effects too many things on the court. haggerty should be fine, per Shef., btw.
Shef will have to be very creative with subs and line-ups and Blake could be playing a more important role, which is exciting to see. I'm also very excited to see Ebony back on the court though! I wish I could be there to see it live. It will be fun match regardless of the outcome.
UT in 4.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 16:47:11 GMT -5
Just like in 2013. And by the way, you must not know very much about players or form but I'd definitely take both All American middles on WI over two very unproven, rarely set Texas middles. I really don't believe that the Texas block will have problems containing Wisconsin's middle attack. IMO Nelson is grossly overrated; her only advantage has been having Carlini as her setter. Without Carlini, though, Nelson would be a forgettable name in B1G volleyball, still behind players like Holman, A. Rolfzen, Cuttino, Sandbothe, Washington, Cole (if she's not playing RS) and the Tapp sisters. As for Williams, I thought she only received honorable mention status... at least you are consistent in thinking UW's All-Americans are over-rated. Nelson was second in the B10 last year in hitting percentage and 5th in Blocks. Nelson is legit. Opinions are simply that, stats tell a more accurate story.
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Post by Trojan on Sept 14, 2016 16:58:21 GMT -5
for WI, if Romana is in the lineup, I'm going with Texas in 3. If its Blake, I'll say Texas in 4.
(And I really hate having to write that).
Regardless, may the better team win and I'm just hoping for a fun, competitive match.
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Post by #skoskers on Sept 14, 2016 17:01:10 GMT -5
I really don't believe that the Texas block will have problems containing Wisconsin's middle attack. IMO Nelson is grossly overrated; her only advantage has been having Carlini as her setter. Without Carlini, though, Nelson would be a forgettable name in B1G volleyball, still behind players like Holman, A. Rolfzen, Cuttino, Sandbothe, Washington, Cole (if she's not playing RS) and the Tapp sisters. As for Williams, I thought she only received honorable mention status... at least you are consistent in thinking UW's All-Americans are over-rated. Nelson was second in the B10 last year in hitting percentage and 5th in Blocks. Nelson is legit. Opinions are simply that, stats tell a more accurate story. Then I would point out that for the past two seasons, Wisconsin has received the easiest schedule in the B1G with the fewest back-to-back matches and less matches against the top tier teams, which certainly will inflate a team's stats. I still <3 you, though, my Wintour junkie.
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 14, 2016 17:04:54 GMT -5
Easy. Texas wins this match. Just looking at the positions alone, there isn't a Wisconsin player, besides maybe Carlini, that I would take over her Longhorn counterpart across the net. "besides maybe Carlini"....even entertaining the possibility of choosing Collins over Carlini is the funniest thing I've heard so far this season.
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Post by Wiswell on Sept 14, 2016 17:05:33 GMT -5
at least you are consistent in thinking UW's All-Americans are over-rated. Nelson was second in the B10 last year in hitting percentage and 5th in Blocks. Nelson is legit. Opinions are simply that, stats tell a more accurate story. Then I would point out that for the past two seasons, Wisconsin has received the easiest schedule in the B1G with the fewest back-to-back matches and less matches against the top tier teams, which certainly will inflate a team's stats. I still <3 you, though, my Wintour junkie. ;) Glad they didn't have to play Nebraska in Lincoln last year. That would be have been tough. Especially since Huskers went on to win the National Championship so clearly they were the best team in the country last year. Oh wait. I get it. You don't like Wisconsin. That's fine. You don't have to keep harping on it though. FWIW, I think Texas will win.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 17:11:43 GMT -5
at least you are consistent in thinking UW's All-Americans are over-rated. Nelson was second in the B10 last year in hitting percentage and 5th in Blocks. Nelson is legit. Opinions are simply that, stats tell a more accurate story. Then I would point out that for the past two seasons, Wisconsin has received the easiest schedule in the B1G with the fewest back-to-back matches and less matches against the top tier teams, which certainly will inflate a team's stats. I still <3 you, though, my Wintour junkie. haha, buttt.... UW has had top 10 RPI the last two seasons.
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Post by #skoskers on Sept 14, 2016 17:12:28 GMT -5
Easy. Texas wins this match. Just looking at the positions alone, there isn't a Wisconsin player, besides maybe Carlini, that I would take over her Longhorn counterpart across the net. "besides maybe Carlini"....even entertaining the possibility of choosing Collins over Carlini is the funniest thing I've heard so far this season. Have you actually seen any of Wisconsin's matches this season to say otherwise?
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Post by #skoskers on Sept 14, 2016 17:20:35 GMT -5
Then I would point out that for the past two seasons, Wisconsin has received the easiest schedule in the B1G with the fewest back-to-back matches and less matches against the top tier teams, which certainly will inflate a team's stats. I still <3 you, though, my Wintour junkie. Glad they didn't have to play Nebraska in Lincoln last year. That would be have been tough. Especially since Huskers went on to win the National Championship so clearly they were the best team in the country last year. Oh wait. I get it. You don't like Wisconsin. That's fine. You don't have to keep harping on it though. FWIW, I think Texas will win. The Badgers only played Nebraska (eventual champs) once last season and PSU once in the conference season in 2013 when the Nittany Lions won the title. If Wisconsin fans can make fun of PSU's supposed "cake walks" through the tourney, then the rest of us can point out the glaring weakness of Wisconsin's past conference schedules, relative to the other teams in the B1G.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 17:24:37 GMT -5
"besides maybe Carlini"....even entertaining the possibility of choosing Collins over Carlini is the funniest thing I've heard so far this season. Have you actually seen any of Wisconsin's matches this season to say otherwise? Have you seen any of Texas'? Saying that Carlini isn't playing to her highest level over the last couple matches is a fair criticism. Saying that Collins is a better pick is a disconnection with reality.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 17:25:06 GMT -5
Glad they didn't have to play Nebraska in Lincoln last year. That would be have been tough. Especially since Huskers went on to win the National Championship so clearly they were the best team in the country last year. Oh wait. I get it. You don't like Wisconsin. That's fine. You don't have to keep harping on it though. FWIW, I think Texas will win. The Badgers only played Nebraska (eventual champs) once last season and PSU once in the conference season in 2013 when the Nittany Lions won the title. If Wisconsin fans can make fun of PSU's supposed "cake walks" through the tourney, then the rest of us can point out the glaring weakness of Wisconsin's past conference schedules, relative to the other teams in the B1G. The schedule that they have absolutely zero control over?
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Post by Hawk Attack on Sept 14, 2016 17:25:22 GMT -5
Realistically this matchup was always Wisconsin's to lose. At full strength the Badgers are superior, without Gillis they can put up a fight but probably won't be able to adjust in time for this matchup. If they've adjusted well over the past week then this will be a good fight, if not then Texas takes it in 4.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 17:26:07 GMT -5
Glad they didn't have to play Nebraska in Lincoln last year. That would be have been tough. Especially since Huskers went on to win the National Championship so clearly they were the best team in the country last year. Oh wait. I get it. You don't like Wisconsin. That's fine. You don't have to keep harping on it though. FWIW, I think Texas will win. The Badgers only played Nebraska (eventual champs) once last season. And won. In the Devaney. You're losing the argument here.
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Post by #skoskers on Sept 14, 2016 17:37:23 GMT -5
Have you actually seen any of Wisconsin's matches this season to say otherwise? Have you seen any of Texas'? Saying that Carlini isn't playing to her highest level over the last couple matches is a fair criticism. Saying that Collins is a better pick is a disconnection with reality. I watched both of Texas' matches in Eugene, and while I wasn't necessarily blown away by Collins, her performance wasn't worse than what I've been seeing out of Carlini this season. At that point, I am not compelled to take Carlini over Collins.
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Post by BuckysHeat on Sept 14, 2016 18:25:25 GMT -5
IMO Nelson is grossly overrated; her only advantage has been having Carlini as her setter. Without Carlini, though, Nelson would be a forgettable name in B1G volleyball, still behind players like Holman, A. Rolfzen, Cuttino, Sandbothe, Washington, Cole (if she's not playing RS) and the Tapp sisters. As for Williams, I thought she only received honorable mention status... Strangely enough, I wonder just who in the hell will be setting her? Seems like an extremely bizarre and pointless statement since Carlini will be setting her. Also curious why any other those other middles matter in the least bit. Will they be on the floor this weekend in teh Texas/Wis match? No so why bring them in? Not one iota of your statement makes the slightest bit of sense
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