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Post by ay2013 on Jun 24, 2017 19:02:21 GMT -5
At a time when the conference needs to be consolidating talent just to not far farther behind the Big 10, we are shedding it. Van Winden is a huge loss. Anyone that thinks Mosser is going to step in and blast through PAC 12 double blocks should watch Minnesota select at AAU's right now.... ain't happening next year. Van Winden would have formed the core of what I would consider the best collection of pin talent west of Texas for the next few years. This plus side for UCLA is that I hear 2018 Megan Faraimo is walking on from a softball schollie. Make no mistake, she can hit a ball. I'm not saying she'll start, but she's the kind of player every coach would dream of having on the depth chart and in the gym without burning a scholarship.
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Jun 24, 2017 19:34:20 GMT -5
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 24, 2017 19:34:20 GMT -5
So what's the reason why Van Winden left? I have a hard time believing that her wanting to play with her sister was the only reason.... especially since UCLA has way better indoor and beach volleyball programs
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 24, 2017 19:49:12 GMT -5
So what's the reason why Van Winden left? I have a hard time believing that her wanting to play with her sister was the only reason.... especially since UCLA has way better indoor and beach volleyball programs Maybe you should ask her. twitter.com/torreyvw?lang=en
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jun 24, 2017 19:54:49 GMT -5
So what's the reason why Van Winden left? I have a hard time believing that her wanting to play with her sister was the only reason.... especially since UCLA has way better indoor and beach volleyball programs uh, why can't a person have one reason? maybe the article below will shed a little more light - it's not just playing with her sister, as to 'way better', that remains to be seen - maybe you'll find out in December which team is 'way better'. mustangnews.net/polyball-mustang-legacy/
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Jun 24, 2017 19:56:41 GMT -5
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 24, 2017 19:56:41 GMT -5
So what's the reason why Van Winden left? I have a hard time believing that her wanting to play with her sister was the only reason.... especially since UCLA has way better indoor and beach volleyball programs uh, why can't a person have one reason? maybe the article below will shed a little more light - it's not just playing with her sister, as to 'way better', that remains to be seen - maybe you'll find out in December which team is 'way better'. mustangnews.net/polyball-mustang-legacy/Well you can't deny that she had the best of both worlds at UCLA in terms of indoor and beach. Also, my question is mainly, was there a "push" for her to leave UCLA. Obviously there was a "pull" with Cal Poly due to family reasons and all that.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jun 24, 2017 20:02:11 GMT -5
uh, why can't a person have one reason? maybe the article below will shed a little more light - it's not just playing with her sister, as to 'way better', that remains to be seen - maybe you'll find out in December which team is 'way better'. mustangnews.net/polyball-mustang-legacy/Well you can't deny that she had the best of both worlds at UCLA in terms of indoor and beach. Also, my question is mainly, was there a "push" for her to leave UCLA. Obviously there was a "pull" with Cal Poly due to family reasons and all that. I doubt there is any push. I suspect this is all 'pull' as to having the 'best of both worlds at UCLA in terms of indoor and beach' - again that is very simplistic to conclude things are the 'best' or 'better' at UCLA mid-career salaries of Cal Poly graduates are actually HIGHER than mid-career salaries of UCLA graduates....hmmmm so perception of best doesn't always match reality she'll play both indoor and beach at Poly - and will be playing with arguably the best setter on the west coast next year, by going to Poly - I think this upcoming year being Taylor Nelson's last probably played a huge part in the timing of the transfer
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Jun 24, 2017 20:08:45 GMT -5
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 24, 2017 20:08:45 GMT -5
Well you can't deny that she had the best of both worlds at UCLA in terms of indoor and beach. Also, my question is mainly, was there a "push" for her to leave UCLA. Obviously there was a "pull" with Cal Poly due to family reasons and all that. I doubt there is any push. I suspect this is all 'pull' as to having the 'best of both worlds at UCLA in terms of indoor and beach' - again that is very simplistic to conclude things are the 'best' or 'better' at UCLA mid-career salaries of Cal Poly graduates are actually HIGHER than mid-career salaries of UCLA graduates....hmmmm so perception of best doesn't always match reality she'll play both indoor and beach at Poly - and will be playing with arguably the best setter on the west coast next year, by going to Poly - I think this upcoming year being Taylor Nelson's last probably played a huge part in the timing of the transfer UCLA's indoor team will obviously have growing pains this season. However, in terms of having both top notch indoor AND beach programs, UCLA is one of the Few options
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jun 24, 2017 20:10:24 GMT -5
I doubt there is any push. I suspect this is all 'pull' as to having the 'best of both worlds at UCLA in terms of indoor and beach' - again that is very simplistic to conclude things are the 'best' or 'better' at UCLA mid-career salaries of Cal Poly graduates are actually HIGHER than mid-career salaries of UCLA graduates....hmmmm so perception of best doesn't always match reality she'll play both indoor and beach at Poly - and will be playing with arguably the best setter on the west coast next year, by going to Poly - I think this upcoming year being Taylor Nelson's last probably played a huge part in the timing of the transfer UCLA's indoor team will obviously have growing pains this season. However, in terms of having both top notch indoor AND beach programs, UCLA is one of the Few options save this prediction: Poly will be a top 15 indoor team and top 8 beach team next year
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Jun 24, 2017 20:22:33 GMT -5
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Post by trollhunter on Jun 24, 2017 20:22:33 GMT -5
UCLA's indoor team will obviously have growing pains this season. However, in terms of having both top notch indoor AND beach programs, UCLA is one of the Few options save this prediction: Poly will be a top 15 indoor team and top 8 beach team next year Not necessarily disagreeing, but curious about details. Are you predicting final finish in NCAA tournament, AVCA poll, RPI, or Pablo? I agree both programs will be improved, but not sure by how much.
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Post by GoUCLA on Jun 24, 2017 20:38:16 GMT -5
So what's the reason why Van Winden left? I have a hard time believing that her wanting to play with her sister was the only reason.... especially since UCLA has way better indoor and beach volleyball programs I hate speculating, but I'll do it anyway. Here are some events from last year: - She played #3 on the beach team. I believe she's a much better playing than both girls playing #2. - She suffered an injury during the indoor season. - There were a few changes to her role on the indoor team during the season. - Her numbers went down towards the end/second half of the Pac-12 season. - The screw up with the AVCA All-American awards. I'm disappointed she's leaving, but wish her the best. Will UCLA be better without her? Who knows, but UCLA will be fine with who they have coming in.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jun 24, 2017 20:41:36 GMT -5
save this prediction: Poly will be a top 15 indoor team and top 8 beach team next year Not necessarily disagreeing, but curious about details. Are you predicting final finish in NCAA tournament, AVCA poll, RPI, or Pablo? I agree both programs will be improved, but not sure by how much. I think top 15 and top 8 is enough detail - silly to try to parse it out more than that since you are not disagreeing, then obviously enough details of why
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jun 24, 2017 20:41:42 GMT -5
Cal Poly was pretty competitive in beach in 2017 - surprisingly so, IMO. They don't lose much to graduation, and add TVW. I can see them maybe squeezing into the final eight...but I wouldn't put any money on it. On the other hand, UCLA with TVW would be the favorite to win the NC. Without TVW, the Bruins are still going to be a top 2-3 team, and definitely in the hunt for the NC.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jun 24, 2017 20:42:31 GMT -5
So what's the reason why Van Winden left? I have a hard time believing that her wanting to play with her sister was the only reason.... especially since UCLA has way better indoor and beach volleyball programs I hate speculating, but I'll do it anyway. Here are some events from last year: - She played #3 on the beach team. I believe she's a much better playing than both girls playing #2. - She suffered an injury during the indoor season. - There were a few changes to her role on the indoor team during the season. - Her numbers went down towards the end/second half of the Pac-12 season. - The screw up with the AVCA All-American awards. I'm disappointed she's leaving, but wish her the best. Will UCLA be better without her? Who knows, but UCLA will be fine with who they have coming in. lol, that makes it all about the UCLA side of things - leaving is mostly due to the Poly side of things
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Post by trollhunter on Jun 24, 2017 21:00:53 GMT -5
Not necessarily disagreeing, but curious about details. Are you predicting final finish in NCAA tournament, AVCA poll, RPI, or Pablo? I agree both programs will be improved, but not sure by how much. I think top 15 and top 8 is enough detail - silly to try to parse it out more than that since you are not disagreeing, then obviously enough details of why If you are going to make a prediction - might as well be specific. Since AVCA is useless, RPI and Pablo aren't used by Beach, I will assume you mean final NCAA finish. And I will disagree. But perhaps one of the programs will meet your high expectations - I think that is a more reasonable bet.
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Jun 24, 2017 22:35:32 GMT -5
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Post by BeiBei on Jun 24, 2017 22:35:32 GMT -5
The only good to come out of it is UCLA might not run a 6-2 although they still could do that. The last team to win the NC with a 6-2 offence is 2003!!!
Sometimes less is indeed more. If Hodson is available last year, the team might not ditch the 6-2 offense and they will probably not win the NC. Don't get me wrong, I am very sad TVW transferred but UCLA will go thru growing pains and they will be fine. The biggest wild card is Miller's setting. She was very underwhelming last year and she was ranked ahead of Gray
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