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Post by scottysocc on Oct 25, 2017 21:23:55 GMT -5
Wisconsin is a pretty good team and they're still getting spanked in Conference. Shows you the strength of the BIG.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 21:25:56 GMT -5
OMG, I can't with you. wanna date? Apparently he's taken click this
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Post by bballnut90 on Oct 25, 2017 21:39:59 GMT -5
Agreed. Washington's blocking was better and I also thought she had better swinging opportunities than Rettke. It was a lot more predictable that the Badgers were going to Rettke at every decent opportunity where Washington's sets seemed more in the flow of the offense. Having terminal pin hitters helps create better looks for Washington. Why are we comparing them? Washington's experience as a senior is invaluable. Apples to oranges. They're likely the 2 best middles in the B1G and arguably the 2 best offensive middles in the country so of course they'll get compared. They carry different loads but are both outstanding players.
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Post by bigfan on Oct 25, 2017 21:53:34 GMT -5
cALLED IT psu 3-1
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Post by Hawk Attack on Oct 25, 2017 22:09:40 GMT -5
That's fine. Unless she's an alien or a robot, she's wrong. All that swelling (the jumping and landing would've exacerbated it) would've made the joint stiffer over time, not looser. She's not wrong. Complete ligament tears in your ankle/foot leave your foot feeling loose and difficult to push off into dorsi-flexion (regardless of whether the sprain is high or low), it would actually be unusual for the joint to stiffen during play. Side note: I used to have fun reading through Wisconsin match threads.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 22:13:48 GMT -5
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 25, 2017 22:17:30 GMT -5
Pretty sure that was a joke...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 22:18:22 GMT -5
That's fine. Unless she's an alien or a robot, she's wrong. All that swelling (the jumping and landing would've exacerbated it) would've made the joint stiffer over time, not looser. She's not wrong. Complete ligament tears in your ankle/foot leave your foot feeling loose and difficult to push off into dorsi-flexion (regardless of whether the sprain is high or low), it would actually be unusual for the joint to stiffen during play. Feeling loose and actually being loose are two different things. Yes, the ligaments ruptured. The body was injured. It immediately started the swelling process to immobilize the area to start healing. Staying moving is good mechanical action that can keep the entire amount of fluid from collecting, but her sprain was bad. There's zero chance that it wasn't stiffening during play. As much as it would if she were sitting? No, but it still would. Also, it was taped and braced after the injury. Like I said, the gravity of standing plus all the jumping and landing would've exacerbated how much swelling occurred after.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 22:24:59 GMT -5
I'm not a Sheffield fan, per se, but this is ridiculous. You're trying to turn an obviously gray situation into just black or white, and it just isn't. Fact: Carlini landed on another player’s foot under the net, which led to a severely sprained left ankle. She and Wisconsin’s trainer noticed how her ankle became really loose, but Sheffield gave her the green light to continue playing, when she was in noticeable pain. Fact: Wisconsin won the first set after Carlini was taken off the court 1. She returned to the first set when Wisconsin was up 13-12. They won with her. Revisionism is fun though, I guess. 2. If you knew anything about Lauren Carlini, you'd know that she would've clotheslined Sheffield into the ground, spit on him, then hid the body if he ever tried to tell her that he was taking her out of an NCAA tournament match... against Penn State no less.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Oct 25, 2017 22:26:36 GMT -5
She's not wrong. Complete ligament tears in your ankle/foot leave your foot feeling loose and difficult to push off into dorsi-flexion (regardless of whether the sprain is high or low), it would actually be unusual for the joint to stiffen during play. Feeling loose and actually being loose are two different things. Yes, the ligaments ruptured. The body was injured. It immediately started the swelling process to immobilize the area to start healing. Staying moving is good mechanical action that can keep the entire amount of fluid from collecting, but her sprain was bad. There's zero chance that it wasn't stiffening during play. As much as it would if she were sitting? No, but it still would. Also, it was taped and braced after the injury. Like I said, the gravity of standing plus all the jumping and landing would've exacerbated how much swelling occurred after. Nothing you’re sayin is inherently wrong... but after the injury occurred the inability to perform the muscle action would result in the ankle joint feeling loose, because technically it is. If you can’t flex at your ankle because of a torn ligament the joint is loose. She was not wrong in saying her ankle felt loose. I mean come on man, that’s textbook stuff right there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 22:32:19 GMT -5
Feeling loose and actually being loose are two different things. Yes, the ligaments ruptured. The body was injured. It immediately started the swelling process to immobilize the area to start healing. Staying moving is good mechanical action that can keep the entire amount of fluid from collecting, but her sprain was bad. There's zero chance that it wasn't stiffening during play. As much as it would if she were sitting? No, but it still would. Also, it was taped and braced after the injury. Like I said, the gravity of standing plus all the jumping and landing would've exacerbated how much swelling occurred after. Nothing you’re sayin is inherently wrong... but after the injury occurred the inability to perform the muscle action would result in the ankle joint feeling loose, because technically it is. If you can’t flex at your ankle because of a torn ligament the joint is loose. She was not wrong in saying her ankle felt loose. I mean come on man, that’s textbook stuff right there. Lol you're having a hard time. Muscle action? She tore ligaments, not tendons. Her injury didn't affect a single muscle in her lower leg, clearly evidenced by the fact that she played the rest of the match. Her ankle was not loose. It was taped, braced, and immobilized by the body's injury response. She limited the swelling because she kept moving, but she wasn't limited because the ankle was loose. She was limited because it wasn't. The inability to flex at the ankle is pretty obvious evidence that a ton of swelling has occurred.
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Post by nuclearbdgr on Oct 25, 2017 22:44:06 GMT -5
Does anyone happen to know the scoring breakdown in set two for when Rettke was on the court versus off the court? I think PSU's 12-3 run came when Rettke's spot was in the back row, although it included one of her service errors
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Post by nuclearbdgr on Oct 25, 2017 22:48:55 GMT -5
Didn't see this mentioned but set three was the first set win at PSU since 2007 (Jackie Simpson et al)
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Post by Trojan on Oct 25, 2017 22:48:58 GMT -5
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Post by nuclearbdgr on Oct 25, 2017 22:51:44 GMT -5
Come on. That sprained ankle in the middle of the first set likely cost UW that match. The scores were +22, -16, -22, -19...even with Carlini hobbling around in pain, they finished the first set and gave them a tough match. Either of those teams could have won the in NC in 2014...PSU got lucky when Frantti's foot went under the net that day. Do you respect Sheffield’s decision to play an injured Carlini? Kristy Walker makes the call on whether a player is healthy enough to play,or would injure herself more as a result of playing.
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