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Post by Hawk Attack on Oct 25, 2017 23:14:31 GMT -5
Nothing you’re sayin is inherently wrong... but after the injury occurred the inability to perform the muscle action would result in the ankle joint feeling loose, because technically it is. If you can’t flex at your ankle because of a torn ligament the joint is loose. She was not wrong in saying her ankle felt loose. I mean come on man, that’s textbook stuff right there. Lol you're having a hard time. Muscle action? She tore ligaments, not tendons. Her injury didn't affect a single muscle in her lower leg, clearly evidenced by the fact that she played the rest of the match. Her ankle was not loose. It was taped, braced, and immobilized by the body's injury response. She limited the swelling because she kept moving, but she wasn't limited because the ankle was loose. She was limited because it wasn't. The inability to flex at the ankle is pretty obvious evidence that a ton of swelling has occurred. Sigh, you’re arguing with the wrong person. This is my job. Muscles, tendons, and ligaments all work together to perform a muscle action, you cannot perform a muscle action with any of the three compromised. Her ankle was not “immobilized” during play because of the body’s response system, the tape job kept her foot from performing any plantar-flexion so she could move without her foot hanging there like a dead fish. When you tear a ligament in your ankle, your ankle is loose, this is scientific fact. Look it up.
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 25, 2017 23:27:45 GMT -5
Didn't see this mentioned but set three was the first set win at PSU since 2007 (Jackie Simpson et al) Yes. This is true. Have to keep some perspective.
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Post by Reach on Oct 25, 2017 23:54:27 GMT -5
Lol you're having a hard time. Muscle action? She tore ligaments, not tendons. Her injury didn't affect a single muscle in her lower leg, clearly evidenced by the fact that she played the rest of the match. Her ankle was not loose. It was taped, braced, and immobilized by the body's injury response. She limited the swelling because she kept moving, but she wasn't limited because the ankle was loose. She was limited because it wasn't. The inability to flex at the ankle is pretty obvious evidence that a ton of swelling has occurred. Sigh, you’re arguing with the wrong person. This is my job. Muscles, tendons, and ligaments all work together to perform a muscle action, you cannot perform a muscle action with any of the three compromised. Her ankle was not “immobilized” during play because of the body’s response system, the tape job kept her foot from performing any plantar-flexion so she could move without her foot hanging there like a dead fish. When you tear a ligament in your ankle, your ankle is loose, this is scientific fact. Look it up. That's some real shiz.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Oct 26, 2017 0:13:57 GMT -5
Sigh, you’re arguing with the wrong person. This is my job. Muscles, tendons, and ligaments all work together to perform a muscle action, you cannot perform a muscle action with any of the three compromised. Her ankle was not “immobilized” during play because of the body’s response system, the tape job kept her foot from performing any plantar-flexion so she could move without her foot hanging there like a dead fish. When you tear a ligament in your ankle, your ankle is loose, this is scientific fact. Look it up. That's some real shiz. Fun story: I’ve partially torn a ligament in my ankle (the ATFL) running down a flight of apartment stairs, half a fifth of Jameson in, on New Year’s Eve. The toe of my shoe got caught on the stair so the front of my foot stopped and I basically put the entire weight of my body on my foot... while it was folded up underneath me. But I ain’t no b*tch so I rallied and made it through the night. Took about two years to not feel a slight twinge of pain in full plantar extension.
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Post by volleyfan24 on Oct 26, 2017 1:16:00 GMT -5
Ok after tonight I think unfortunately Wisconsin will flame out in the round of 16. The pins leave a lot to be desired as much as I like Bates. Gillis in four years has not improved her passing and I don't think she will anytime soon. She is a huge liability and cost them way too many points when passing or defending. The serving is a joke if I am Sheffield I spend an entire practice just getting balls in cause donating away points against good teams cost you matches. Bright spots are the middles thank god for Rettke and Williams. Unfortunately they both can't touch every ball. The problems also are Rettke runs a killer slide but she needs to vary her shots go line or hit to the open court too often I feel she just goes up and swings hard and fast without trying to find openings. Rettke has lots of blocks simply due to her height but she does not read block well and still is slow to close, which is concerning. Hilley continues to impress me she bettered many a bad pass but her decision making at times tonight showed her youth. The backcourt for Wisconsin is good but you can tell give talented hitters 3 swings to get kills in long rallies they will find the court eventually. The whole team looked bad on serve receive even Clark which is disappointing. This isnt the season I saw for them and if they had a healthy Haggert I think maybe things would be different but for now this Badger squad has more questions than answers. Wisconsin is still good but national title good not quite there yet. Also they need to have a killer instinct so many times fail to close out sets when leading
As for Penn State they looked the part tonight. Their depth showed Reed provided a much needed spark. Washington is Washington and Lee is Lee. Thelen looked good at times what impressed me most about Penn Stare was their floor defense they didn't let up and showed a lot of hustle and heart when winning long rallies and the belief they were still in sets even when down late they could still come back.
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Post by SuperSpike on Oct 26, 2017 4:38:33 GMT -5
If WI wants to win a NC they better be working on serving tough. Because I can tell you now they don't have a snowballs chance in hell vs an in-system Stanford, Texas, Florida (see last year, didn't challenge passers, lost). WI has been bottom of conference all year with serving. Which will not take them far in the tourney.. Guess who is good at serving TOUGH? Michigan State, who is beating good teams. Kentucky, who made a talented Florida team look awful.
What they can control is serving, and OH shot selection. No reason for there to be swings that aren't highest percentage decisions for situations. OH's don't have to touch 11ft to be effective at tooling. See Nebraska 5'11 OH that gave PSU nightmares.
Wisconsin is a good team, and with excellent serving and pin hitting decisions, could be dangerous.
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Post by akbar on Oct 26, 2017 5:21:52 GMT -5
PSU did not play particularly well tonight but their most consistent players in Washington, Weiskircher and White all delivered and the team showed depth with an oustanding performance from Nia Reed.
Wisconsin is legit at the setter and middles but has serious problems at the pins who combined for 17 errors and a .105 rate.
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Post by bigfan on Oct 26, 2017 11:07:11 GMT -5
Called it
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Post by bigfan on Oct 26, 2017 11:09:20 GMT -5
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 26, 2017 11:18:55 GMT -5
LOL "Literally anyone else"
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Post by vawbaw on Oct 26, 2017 14:23:01 GMT -5
Watching the rest of the match and saw this. Lol
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Oct 26, 2017 15:10:02 GMT -5
You are a humorless drama queen. Don't try to make this into some kind of "high-minded" commentary about gender equality and male privilege. The 19 people (to date) who "liked" that post saw a clever joke about Kelly Sheffield's choices about who to play last evening...and previously during this year. It's the funniest Badger-related post this year...spot on for those of us who are so frustrated with Gillis' lack of leadership and progress.
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Post by bigfan on Oct 26, 2017 15:19:48 GMT -5
You are a humorless drama queen. Don't try to make this into some kind of "high-minded" commentary about gender equality and male privilege.
The 19 people (to date) who "liked" that post saw a clever joke about Kelly Sheffield's choices about who to play last evening...and previously during this year.
It's the funniest Badger-related post this year...spot on for those of us who are so frustrated with Gillis' lack of leadership and progress.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 15:26:05 GMT -5
It's just a meme
EDIT: and that ^^^^^^^^^ is not a meme. Bigfan is obviously old af
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 15:40:09 GMT -5
Lol you're having a hard time. Muscle action? She tore ligaments, not tendons. Her injury didn't affect a single muscle in her lower leg, clearly evidenced by the fact that she played the rest of the match. Her ankle was not loose. It was taped, braced, and immobilized by the body's injury response. She limited the swelling because she kept moving, but she wasn't limited because the ankle was loose. She was limited because it wasn't. The inability to flex at the ankle is pretty obvious evidence that a ton of swelling has occurred. Sigh, you’re arguing with the wrong person. This is my job. Muscles, tendons, and ligaments all work together to perform a muscle action, you cannot perform a muscle action with any of the three compromised. Her ankle was not “immobilized” during play because of the body’s response system, the tape job kept her foot from performing any plantar-flexion so she could move without her foot hanging there like a dead fish. When you tear a ligament in your ankle, your ankle is loose, this is scientific fact. Look it up. I love when people say "this is my job" lolololololololol. I'll say it again for those in the back: she was taped and braced after the injury. That, along with all the fluid that built up, locked the ankle into that taped/braced position: the body's natural response for protecting an injured area. Playing on it helped her keep a little ROM, because all the mechanical action would've worked some of that fluid back into the bloodstream (which was moving fast because of activity) more quickly, but it wasn't loose. A loose ankle would move more freely (definition of loose), not have trouble with muscle actions. It would've been loose as the swelling started to go down because the ligament wouldn't be completely healed. That would give a feeling a looseness, but I'm sure she was feeling more pain than looseness considering i her sprain was a bad high-ankle sprain, if I'm not mistaken, yes? The muscles weren't compromised because of a grade 3 ankle sprain. The ATF and the other ligaments provide stability, but their rupture doesn't affect muscle actions at all. Pain occurs because it is the body's intention for the ankle to stay in an immobilized position until it can heal itself, not because the muscles were compromised. THE ANKLE WAS TAPED AND BRACED AFTER THE INJURY.
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