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Post by Hawk Attack on Oct 26, 2017 16:21:51 GMT -5
Sigh, you’re arguing with the wrong person. This is my job. Muscles, tendons, and ligaments all work together to perform a muscle action, you cannot perform a muscle action with any of the three compromised. Her ankle was not “immobilized” during play because of the body’s response system, the tape job kept her foot from performing any plantar-flexion so she could move without her foot hanging there like a dead fish. When you tear a ligament in your ankle, your ankle is loose, this is scientific fact. Look it up. I love when people say "this is my job" lolololololololol. I'll say it again for those in the back: she was taped and braced after the injury. That, along with all the fluid that built up, locked the ankle into that taped/braced position: the body's natural response for protecting an injured area. Playing on it helped her keep a little ROM, because all the mechanical action would've worked some of that fluid back into the bloodstream (which was moving fast because of activity) more quickly, but it wasn't loose. A loose ankle would move more freely (definition of loose), not have trouble with muscle actions. It would've been loose as the swelling started to go down because the ligament wouldn't be completely healed. That would give a feeling a looseness, but I'm sure she was feeling more pain than looseness considering i her sprain was a bad high-ankle sprain, if I'm not mistaken, yes? The muscles weren't compromised because of a grade 3 ankle sprain. The ATF and the other ligaments provide stability, but their rupture doesn't affect muscle actions at all. Pain occurs because it is the body's intention for the ankle to stay in an immobilized position until it can heal itself, not because the muscles were compromised. THE ANKLE WAS TAPED AND BRACED AFTER THE INJURY. I like how you keep highlighting the “taped and braced” argument now... even though that has nothing to do with the original argument you made: “That's fine. Unless she's an alien or a robot, she's wrong. All that swelling (the jumping and landing would've exacerbated it) would've made the joint stiffer over time, not looser.” Read more: volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/71076/penn-state-wisconsin-10-25?page=32#ixzz4weRVYdvbYou can change your wording all you want to make yourself seem in the right, but you were wrong, Carlini’s ankle would’ve felt looser after the injury, regardless of the compensations made to allow her to continue playing. You are also mistaken that the swelling would lock the ankle into place “inside” the brace and tape job. The swelling doesn’t cause the ankle to stiffen until after you begin RICE. Carlini was not RICE-ing while she was playing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 16:23:26 GMT -5
omg lol
I'm done!
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Post by Sbilo on Oct 26, 2017 16:24:24 GMT -5
Penn State sure looked like the #1 team in the nation.. arguably the strongest contender for NC this year.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Oct 26, 2017 16:27:21 GMT -5
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Post by akbar on Oct 26, 2017 16:28:29 GMT -5
Penn State sure looked like the #1 team in the nation.. arguably the strongest contender for NC this year. hmmmm yeah but....got some things to clean up. Bench play was outstanding. That is a nice card to have in the pocket
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 16:35:53 GMT -5
You're like, really really really wrong. Idk how it's "your job," if it even is.
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Post by bigfan on Oct 26, 2017 16:43:39 GMT -5
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Post by Hawk Attack on Oct 26, 2017 17:07:15 GMT -5
You're like, really really really wrong. Idk how it's "your job," if it even is. This is the second time I’ve had to correct you about something you were wrong about. Last time I was nice enough to do it over PM but if you keep spewing garbage on subject matters you clearly know nothing about then you shouldn’t be surprised when you get called out.
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Post by SportyBucky on Oct 26, 2017 17:17:19 GMT -5
Penn State sure looked like the #1 team in the nation.. arguably the strongest contender for NC this year. No they didn't. They weren't impressive, hit for a very low %. If WI was Gillisless, they'd have lost. Parity, baby.
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 26, 2017 17:38:46 GMT -5
Wisconsin is a very good defensive team, so 0.240 is respectable against them. It's true that MSU hit 0.347 against the badgers in East Lansing, but other than terrible performance, the only other teams to hit ~0.240 against the badgers are Minnesota (twice), Arkansas. Each of those times there was an outside hitter that went off (Hart and Victoria).
Granted, for most of the match, PSU hit well below 0.240. PSU only went substantially above 0.200 in the last set when they hit 0.500. That does affect perceptions. But the young badgers have made some very good teams look bad for long segments of the match. So, yeah, PSU is beatable, as is every other team in the top 10, IMO.
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Post by Northern lights on Oct 26, 2017 18:11:50 GMT -5
PSU is certainly beatable, but it is going to take a team with 3 dominant pin hitters, that serves tough. I do not think Penn State has the blocking to slow down a team like this.
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Post by lo4um on Oct 26, 2017 18:16:23 GMT -5
Penn State sure looked like the #1 team in the nation.. arguably the strongest contender for NC this year. No they didn't. They weren't impressive, hit for a very low %. If WI was Gillisless, they'd have lost. Parity, baby. Salty much?
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Post by SportyBucky on Oct 26, 2017 20:15:49 GMT -5
No they didn't. They weren't impressive, hit for a very low %. If WI was Gillisless, they'd have lost. Parity, baby. Salty much? You think any one of your big guns played well?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 20:40:40 GMT -5
PSU is certainly beatable, but it is going to take a team with 3 dominant pin hitters, that serves tough. I do not think Penn State has the blocking to slow down a team like this. The *block* of Penn State where you think they're weak?!?! Lol.
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Post by gnu2vball on Oct 26, 2017 20:45:14 GMT -5
Penn State sure looked like the #1 team in the nation.. arguably the strongest contender for NC this year. No they didn't. They weren't impressive, hit for a very low %. If WI was Gillisless, they'd have lost. Parity, baby. So PSU sucked and beat the other team 3 sets to 1. So the other team, the one which lost 3 out of 4 sets to a team that sucks, does what? Does it really suck?
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