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Post by wahinefan on Dec 31, 2018 19:04:54 GMT -5
It is also interesting to see how many of these Top Players actually stay at the school they initially sign NLI with, their full playing career.
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Post by bball on Dec 31, 2018 20:43:23 GMT -5
I think the 2020 class isnt as strong as the 2019 one...
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Post by huskerjen on Dec 31, 2018 20:50:41 GMT -5
I think the 2020 class isnt as strong as the 2019 one... It's because classes tend to be judged by how many elite OH's and setters they contain. 2020 is relatively light at those positions, but it's pretty deep in middles.
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Post by John Tawa-VolleyballMag.com on Dec 31, 2018 21:07:00 GMT -5
I think the 2020 class isnt as strong as the 2019 one... The college coaches on my panel would disagree with you, at least in regard to the top 50. Whereas last year we were searching for a legitimate top 50, the 2020 class has 70 or more players who potentially carry that grade
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Post by tallguy86 on Dec 31, 2018 21:51:10 GMT -5
Sand is stealing the short ball handling 5'10" OHs and the even shorter DS's and L's that used to be a huge advantage. I think the decline otherwise is overstated. Both of Stanford's OHs were SoCal (plus the retired Hodson), as was a top pin each for Nebraska and Texas plus a starting MB for PSU. Oregon beat Minnesota twice, including knocking them out of the playoffs with 7 Cali girls. These lists can be cyclical, and are highly dependent on the bias of the recruiters making up the list. 6 of the top 37 front row players coming from 1 club with 5 on 1 team is highly unlikely. It will be interesting to look back on this list 2 to 3 years from now to see if this is truly a once in a lifetime group. If it is, then it was rather shocking that they lost 3 matches and finished tied for 5th at the championships last June. It’s possible if they have great hitters and sub-par defense and setting. See: UTexas.
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Post by huskerjen on Dec 31, 2018 22:25:46 GMT -5
I think the 2020 class isnt as strong as the 2019 one... The college coaches on my panel would disagree with you, at least in regard to the top 50. Whereas last year we were searching for a legitimate top 50, the 2020 class has 70 or more players who potentially carry that grade Is that because 70+ are all that good, or because there isn't as many distinguishable elite players from 25-50? Looking at the '19 senior aces, there are players in the 30's and 40's that look like they'd be in the top 25 based on this juniors list. Jmo, the discrepancy looks even bigger at the top. If you look at the best from both classes, it seems like a top 20 would consist of about thirteen '19s and seven 20's.
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Post by NebraskaVBfan93 on Dec 31, 2018 22:34:56 GMT -5
What's most glaring to me is the continued decline in overall west coast prep talent. I count just 4 from California, meanwhile 20 recruits come from states that have Big 10 schools in them. Reason #1 for the decline of the Pac-12 and the rise of the Big 10. Is the west coast talent declining or is talent everywhere else just getting better? Or is it all of the above?
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Post by lovebugsm on Jan 1, 2019 0:21:34 GMT -5
Is the ND kid who is uncommitted going to play VB or Basketball? She is the 38th best basketball player in the country. I know she visited minnesota this year for both sports I’d love to see her in Maroon and Gold in either sports.
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Post by ay2013 on Jan 10, 2019 19:16:17 GMT -5
Is Hamilton still actually going to Notre Dame? Last I heard there were some talks going on with recruits after J. Mac announced.
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Post by ay2013 on Jan 10, 2019 19:26:13 GMT -5
I think the 2020 class isnt as strong as the 2019 one... It's because classes tend to be judged by how many elite OH's and setters they contain. 2020 is relatively light at those positions, but it's pretty deep in middles. hmmmm...... I don't think this class is that light in OH's. they may be a bit shorter than in years past overall, but there are some game changers in this class on the pins..... I think people are really sleeping on the younger Skinner. Landfair might get a lot of hype in this class, obviously Endlsey can hit a ball etc. etc., but Skinner.... man, I remember watching in back in 2017 and being so freaking impressed. you guys have another 2020 coming your way soon Smith? I thought she was going out of state....I'm still a bit surprised Elliott couldn't keep that Houston Skyline 16's hitter from joining her sister in Kentucky. Landfair gets a lot of the hype in this 2020 class but there are some ATHLETES ready to bang the ball in this class. The younger Skinner is gonna be pretty good! . I love Bannister and she is going to leave her mark but I would still put Skinner ahead of her at this point. I don't. Bannisters arm swing is kind of unorthodox, but very quick...and she can she swing over a well sized block, Skinner cannot. speaking of Skinner though...her younger sister, hot damn. I think she's gonna be VERY good. I've never seen Drewnick play....but I have seen the Skyline and TAV kids...and there are some absolute studs on those teams for the 2020 class. I've liked Skinner the most out of Texas from 2020 so far.
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Post by ay2013 on Apr 5, 2019 2:38:18 GMT -5
I think the 2020 class isnt as strong as the 2019 one... It's because classes tend to be judged by how many elite OH's and setters they contain. 2020 is relatively light at those positions, but it's pretty deep in middles. FWIW....Prep VB just released two mid-season all star teams for the 18's. Both 1st teams had 2020 OH's on it (no 2019 OH's made the 1st team), both had a 2020 OH on the second team. Of all 6 pure setters that made the teams, only 1 was a 2019. Sure this doesn't necessarily speak to depth but it's worth pointing out!
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Post by BadgerAce42 on Apr 5, 2019 9:09:13 GMT -5
It's because classes tend to be judged by how many elite OH's and setters they contain. 2020 is relatively light at those positions, but it's pretty deep in middles. FWIW....Prep VB just released two mid-season all star teams for the 18's. Both 1st teams had 2020 OH's on it (no 2019 OH's made the 1st team), both had a 2020 OH on the second team. Of all 6 pure setters that made the teams, only 1 was a 2019. Sure this doesn't necessarily speak to depth but it's worth pointing out! Noticed that, too--very interesting and speaks to at least level of talent for the top players.
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Post by ay2013 on Apr 5, 2019 11:56:13 GMT -5
FWIW....Prep VB just released two mid-season all star teams for the 18's. Both 1st teams had 2020 OH's on it (no 2019 OH's made the 1st team), both had a 2020 OH on the second team. Of all 6 pure setters that made the teams, only 1 was a 2019. Sure this doesn't necessarily speak to depth but it's worth pointing out! Noticed that, too--very interesting and speaks to at least level of talent for the top players. I dunno about "depth", but I've watched a number of OH's on the PV top 50 Juniors list and most of them are pretty darn good.
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Post by huskerjen on Apr 8, 2019 7:11:31 GMT -5
It's because classes tend to be judged by how many elite OH's and setters they contain. 2020 is relatively light at those positions, but it's pretty deep in middles. FWIW....Prep VB just released two mid-season all star teams for the 18's. Both 1st teams had 2020 OH's on it (no 2019 OH's made the 1st team), both had a 2020 OH on the second team. Of all 6 pure setters that made the teams, only 1 was a 2019. Sure this doesn't necessarily speak to depth but it's worth pointing out! How many of the top '19s are playing? I haven't reviewed, so I really don't know. Just thinking about the trend of early enrollees. Eggleston and Kubik are already in college, but the number might not be that high.
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Post by charger0304 on Apr 8, 2019 8:29:14 GMT -5
FWIW....Prep VB just released two mid-season all star teams for the 18's. Both 1st teams had 2020 OH's on it (no 2019 OH's made the 1st team), both had a 2020 OH on the second team. Of all 6 pure setters that made the teams, only 1 was a 2019. Sure this doesn't necessarily speak to depth but it's worth pointing out! How many of the top '19s are playing? I haven't reviewed, so I really don't know. Just thinking about the trend of early enrollees. Eggleston and Kubik are already in college, but the number might not be that high. Hmm, good question. Off the top of my head: Stivrins at Louisville Clark at Penn State Bell at Kentucky Podraza at Ohio State Knuckles at Nebraska Rubright at Minnesota Meuth and McGhee at Notre Dame?
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