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Post by jcvball22 on Apr 18, 2018 15:57:54 GMT -5
You expected quality information from FloSports in general? They're terrible. Stick with the NCAA release.
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Post by greenpier on Apr 18, 2018 15:59:47 GMT -5
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Post by joethecoach on Apr 18, 2018 16:01:25 GMT -5
So, you can schedule an official visit Sept 1 of their junior year, but you can't really communicate with them until Sept 1 of their junior year? And now schools have to triple their budgets for official travel.
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Post by bigfan on Apr 18, 2018 16:02:52 GMT -5
Is this in response to Lexi Sun leaving texas?
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Post by bigfan on Apr 18, 2018 16:03:24 GMT -5
D-3 still no athletic scholarships.
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Post by karellen on Apr 18, 2018 16:08:02 GMT -5
In the proposal text, I noticed that "prospective student athlete" was lined out, and instead it says "contact with athletics department staff, ... shall not occur ... before September 1 at the beginning of his or her junior year in high school." Does that effectively close the loophole for non-PSA middle schoolers? Only if they re-define PSA (Prospective Student Athlete). If the definition of PSA is still any athlete who has started 9th grade, then no, middle schoolers are still fair game because they are not PSAs by definition.
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Post by sizzlincatfish on Apr 18, 2018 16:12:08 GMT -5
In the proposal text, I noticed that "prospective student athlete" was lined out, and instead it says "contact with athletics department staff, ... shall not occur ... before September 1 at the beginning of his or her junior year in high school." Does that effectively close the loophole for non-PSA middle schoolers? Only if they re-define PSA (Prospective Student Athlete). If the definition of PSA is still any athlete who has started 9th grade, then no, middle schoolers are still fair game because they are not PSAs by definition. Technically anyone is a PSA.
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Post by Sorry Ass Sal on Apr 18, 2018 16:12:56 GMT -5
D-3 still no athletic scholarships. Why would that change? And what is this fascination of yours with D3 and no athletic aid? That's pretty common knowledge.
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Post by bigfan on Apr 18, 2018 16:17:35 GMT -5
D-3 still no athletic scholarships. Why would that change? And what is this fascination of yours with D3 and no athletic aid? That's pretty common knowledge. Some people are not aware of how D-3 is set up.
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Post by shotcaller on Apr 18, 2018 16:24:18 GMT -5
I've been vocal on another thread about this, but my opinion is that this should be looked at as two separate legislations (which it is)
Proposal 2017-111 (move official visits to Sep 1 junior year) this is fantastic!!! Moves the financial burden of a visit from the family to the school. Great stuff!!
Proposal 2017-112 (move unofficial visits to Sep 1 junior year) this is ridiculous!!! If a PSA wants to visit and begin the process of getting to know a coaching staff then they should be allowed to! If you want to restrict it, move this to Sept 1 of the Sophomore year, or June 15 following the sophomore year so that recruiting conversations can still happen at camps and prior to Sept 1 of Junior year.
UGH...this is a mess.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Apr 18, 2018 16:30:05 GMT -5
I've been vocal on another thread about this, but my opinion is that this should be looked at as two separate legislations (which it is) Proposal 2017-111 (move official visits to Sep 1 junior year) this is fantastic!!! Moves the financial burden of a visit from the family to the school. Great stuff!! Proposal 2017-112 (move unofficial visits to Sep 1 junior year) this is ridiculous!!! If a PSA wants to visit and begin the process of getting to know a coaching staff then they should be allowed to! If you want to restrict it, move this to Sept 1 of the Sophomore year, or June 15 following the sophomore year so that recruiting conversations can still happen at camps and prior to Sept 1 of Junior year. UGH...this is a mess. I agree completely. I've been a huge proponent of earlier official visits for a long time, but if a kid wants to begin their recruitment earlier, they should be able to. The SAAC had proposed prohibiting scholarship offers during freshman year of HS, and not allowing verbal commitments until Sept 1 of junior year. They also wanted a single signing period to be open from November through August of senior year - probably so that kids who make a decision can sign right away and not have to wait.
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Post by volleyg on Apr 18, 2018 16:50:10 GMT -5
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Post by karellen on Apr 18, 2018 16:57:46 GMT -5
Only if they re-define PSA (Prospective Student Athlete). If the definition of PSA is still any athlete who has started 9th grade, then no, middle schoolers are still fair game because they are not PSAs by definition. Technically anyone is a PSA. Nope - the NCAA has a specific definition as to what a PSA is. If you are not a PSA by definition, then any rule that specifically pertains to a PSA does not allpy to you. The NCAA definition of PSA is -- From NCAA -- "A prospective student-athlete is a student who has started classes for the ninth grade. In addition, a student who has not started classes for the ninth grade becomes a prospective student-athlete if the institution provides such an individual (or the individual's relatives or friends) any financial assistance or other benefits that the institution does not provide to prospective students generally."
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Post by rvdadvb on Apr 18, 2018 17:35:46 GMT -5
I tried to go back to read the original legislation and the link from the other thread isn't working to the report, so as far as I know, there's nowhere to read all of the legislation.
Does anyone have a link to the proposed or approved legislation that works?
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Post by tenfootliner on Apr 18, 2018 17:53:56 GMT -5
So, A freshman PSA can attend camp of said college, tour around campus on her own, get back home a day later and call the coach of said college and have conversations with?
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