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Post by ironhammer on Jul 2, 2018 20:18:40 GMT -5
If we've circled back to Karch, fine. But my view on him remains the same: The criticism is over the top. He's not the best in the world, but he knows that and he is constantly trying to be better. Criticism is warranted. Some of the stuff on VT? Uncalled for.Particularly when they based their attacks on nothing other innuendos and not substantiated by facts whatsoever. Like the Hooker situation. I don't want to bring her up again. But people were attacking Karch for being petty and diva-like in not putting her on the roster. But we don't know that. There is not a shred of evidence of that. But no, for the Karch haters, they already made up their minds that is fact and reality when in fact it may not be the case. Funny thing is, these critics likely have never coached a team a day in their lives. They have no idea what being a coach involves.
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 2, 2018 20:19:28 GMT -5
And thinks for questioning my intelligence again. You have such an active imagination. And you completely make things up. Like this. See what I am telling you, Ruffda? When he's caught red-handed, shhhhhhh resorts to personal insults. All too predictable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 20:20:57 GMT -5
And thinks for questioning my intelligence again. You have such an active imagination. And you completely make things up. Like this. Ducks in a barrel. This quote is right here. Too easy. Why is Ruffda so bad at comprehending simple concepts? Tell me again how I "completely make things up."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 20:21:39 GMT -5
You never become immune to infected water. Many people in areas with bad water suffer from chronic dysentery. I blame Karch. From another thread. More evidence that you're just being a troll, ruff. I used to think you were better than this stuff. You were always a poster I liked and that admiration was galvanized by our shared feelings/passions of political topics in the late political forum, but this crap is just so beneath you, a former moderator.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 20:22:50 GMT -5
*again, provides zero examples of any "over the top" or "uncalled for" criticisms, despite that being literally the entire foundation of his argument* I ask again: seriously?? I am not going to go back through these threads and pull up your quotes. Everyone on here knows how what I am talking about, even if they agree with you. Like others have said in this thread regarding your arguments: lazy.
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 2, 2018 20:24:04 GMT -5
From another thread. More evidence that you're just being a troll, ruff. I used to think you were better than this stuff. You were always a poster I liked and that admiration was galvanized by our shared feelings/passions of political topics in the late political forum, but this crap is just so beneath you, a former moderator. Ha yes, the usual "troll" insult to anyone who disagree with the Karch haters. They accuse me for labelling them as Karch worshippers, but no, look at their own conduct, they label anyone who disagree with them as "trolls". How pathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 20:25:42 GMT -5
From another thread. More evidence that you're just being a troll, ruff. I used to think you were better than this stuff. You were always a poster I liked and that admiration was galvanized by our shared feelings/passions of political topics in the late political forum, but this crap is just so beneath you, a former moderator. Or I was making a joke. Which I was. I know, because ... I'm me. Thanks for the past feelings. I hope they are not completely gone. Seriously. I just have a real problem with this Karch business.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 20:25:48 GMT -5
You have such an active imagination. And you completely make things up. Like this. Ducks in a barrel. This quote is right here. Too easy. Why is Ruffda so bad at comprehending simple concepts? Tell me again how I "completely make things up." You have trouble with the quote feature, so I didn't realize that that was the post in question, considering it was posted over three hours ago and you've posted in this thread since then without addressing it. That wasn't meant to be an insult, however. You really seem to have a ton of difficulty comprehending the simple concepts that duncaroo and volleyguy were trying to explain to you about my actual criticisms, which you kept purposefully misrepresenting and exaggerating.
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Post by holidayhusker on Jul 2, 2018 20:26:23 GMT -5
Dont forget "a armchair coach expert" too! thats a given honey.
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 2, 2018 20:26:57 GMT -5
Ducks in a barrel. This quote is right here. Too easy. Tell me again how I "completely make things up." You have trouble with the quote feature, so I didn't realize that that was the post in question, considering it was posted over three hours ago and you've posted in this thread since then without addressing it. That wasn't meant to be an insult, however. You really seem to have a ton of difficulty comprehending the simple concepts that duncaroo and volleyguy were trying to explain to you about my actual criticisms, which you kept purposefully misrepresenting and exaggerating. No, he just sees the light.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 20:28:42 GMT -5
Ducks in a barrel. This quote is right here. Too easy. Tell me again how I "completely make things up." You have trouble with the quote feature, so I didn't realize that that was the post in question, considering it was posted over three hours ago and you've posted in this thread since then without addressing it. That wasn't meant to be an insult, however. You really seem to have a ton of difficulty comprehending the simple concepts that duncaroo and volleyguy were trying to explain to you about my actual criticisms, which you kept purposefully misrepresenting and exaggerating. I am no genius, but I am not dumb.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 20:29:30 GMT -5
From another thread. More evidence that you're just being a troll, ruff. I used to think you were better than this stuff. You were always a poster I liked and that admiration was galvanized by our shared feelings/passions of political topics in the late political forum, but this crap is just so beneath you, a former moderator. Or I was making a joke. Which I was. I know, because ... I'm me. Thanks for the past feelings. I hope they are not completely gone. Seriously. I just have a real problem with this Karch business. Then let's work past them. Please point me toward the exact posts that bothered you. I will admit that I was over-the-top, if I was, or I'll try to explain my positions further. However, at some point, you will have to respect that it is my personal feeling that he's just not a great coach and that I'm not a fan of his philosophies, his systems, his management, or his choices. I've respected your contrary position.
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 2, 2018 20:31:49 GMT -5
A whole lot of worthless agonizing. The only interesting question is how this team can get better in the next two years. "Developing new players" is not an answer. Rather than possibly worrying about the worthless agonizing taking place on Volleytalk, the most important question Karch and Co. should be considering right now is "How did Turkey manage to take us to 5 sets three consecutive times?" Because Guidetti is a good coach? Because he has coached Hill and Robinson in the Turkish League, so know the weaknesses of the US players? Not everything is the fault of Karch & Co. Turkey also pulled off a stunning upset against Brazil, winning 3-0. That shows Turkey is rising quickly as a volleyball power to be reckoned with. In fact, it should be a compliment that US prevailed over such a determined and skilled opponent.
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 2, 2018 20:33:14 GMT -5
Or I was making a joke. Which I was. I know, because ... I'm me. Thanks for the past feelings. I hope they are not completely gone. Seriously. I just have a real problem with this Karch business. Then let's work past them. Please point me toward the exact posts that bothered you. I will admit that I was over-the-top, if I was, or I'll try to explain my positions further. However, at some point, you will have to respect that it is my personal feeling that he's just not a great coach and that I'm not a fan of his philosophies, his systems, his management, or his choices. I've respected your contrary position.Have you seen yourself in a mirror? Seriously? Do you not know how you are perceived by others? Respect contrary opinions? You have shown none of that here.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 2, 2018 20:35:19 GMT -5
Then let's work past them. Please point me toward the exact posts that bothered you. I will admit that I was over-the-top, if I was, or I'll try to explain my positions further. However, at some point, you will have to respect that it is my personal feeling that he's just not a great coach and that I'm not a fan of his philosophies, his systems, his management, or his choices. I've respected your contrary position.Have you seen yourself in a mirror? Seriously? Do you not know how you are perceived by others? Respect contrary opinions? You have shown none of that here. the irony
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