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Post by Northern lights on Aug 18, 2018 18:47:25 GMT -5
I have always had a high opinion of Tionna Williams. If Wisconsin is good enough that Tionna can not start, then they are legit this year.
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Post by Wiswell on Aug 18, 2018 18:53:41 GMT -5
I have always had a high opinion of Tionna Williams. If Wisconsin is good enough that Tionna can not start, then they are legit this year. Me too. I enjoy Williams game. A scrimmage, however, only simulates a live game environment only so far. It'll be fun to see how everything unfolds, and I don't think we will have a lineup settled until 2-3 weeks in.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Aug 18, 2018 19:29:08 GMT -5
So what's the dope on Haggerty? Hints of some good things on here, but what was her overall level like? Her play looked back to pre-injury level. Serving, blocking, hitting (power and shot selection). Passing was improved from pre-injury. Solid defense. She wasn’t getting set as often, but we have other options now. In 2016 it was, to a large extent, the Molly Show, especially when she was in the front row. This year we have other players we can lean on for offensive production, so she doesn’t have to carry the load. No question to me she starts on the outside. I was looking to see if Haggerty's power was back, but I had forgotten she's such a smart player with a variety of shots, too. Today was very good news.
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Post by badgerbill on Aug 18, 2018 19:37:51 GMT -5
Good news about Haggerty. I am sure they have a very specific regimen for her between matches, and may limit her in practice. Her core strength will be what keeps her healthy.
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Post by jiml on Aug 18, 2018 21:56:49 GMT -5
... Sheff already has a track record of starting seniors over others based on their class - see Gillis last year vs Loberg for the most recent case. Based on that and Tionna's multi year AA status she will be the starter over Duello if they both go right. What I recall Sheffield saying about Gillis was that having her on the floor increased every one else’s numbers, and that this was true for both the starters and the practice team. I interpreted that as wanting the best team numbers, not the best single player numbers, as being why she got floor time. I don’t think it was her senior status. Not starting Loberg until late in the season he explained as wanting to give her time to learn how to go up against elite blocking rather than high school. Remember the preseason Marquette match? First time Rettke went up against a good team which had scouted her she hit zero. Her learning curve was steep, fortunately.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 18, 2018 23:07:39 GMT -5
Yeah. I really like Tionna's game - I mean she was just voted preseason all B1G. So, despite my prediction above, I would miss her if she didn't start. It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out. If Duello plays over Tionna it's because Madison is playing lights out or Tionna is not used to the RS. I can see Tionna taking Hart's place in the middle too, because she is a known entity in competitive matches. I really think there may be a thought to her long term health though, with all the late season swoons in stats.
It was good to hear that Loberg did OK in serve receive. I wonder what Sheff thought though.
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 19, 2018 0:34:31 GMT -5
Is Wisconsin the new Texas? Such an embarrassment of riches that really REALLY good players are riding the pine? Not quite, but they really have a good mix of talent, and they have size. They outshine Texas in one area also. We'll see what happens when they meet in Madison -- coming up in a few weeks. Three areas... Passing, floor d, and setting.
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Post by naujack85 on Aug 19, 2018 1:07:20 GMT -5
Not quite, but they really have a good mix of talent, and they have size. They outshine Texas in one area also. We'll see what happens when they meet in Madison -- coming up in a few weeks. Three areas... Passing, floor d, and setting. While I like their DS/liberos, I think they may still struggle in serve receive based on their outsides. Though Texas will struggle much more than them in passing this year...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 3:45:48 GMT -5
Stat lines for the boys were pretty damn good... Dixon wasn't playing around lol. Good for her.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 3:47:58 GMT -5
Also, I just want to say... Here's an interesting possibility: Williams on the bench. This highlight video from 2016 was one of my favorite reels of her play. Quick, good jumper, hits hard and with severe angles when needed... some of her slides were just nasty. Add 2 years of training and playing everyday against top competition in practice and I’m sure she’s on her way to being a star. I’m telling y’all: don’t be surprised if Williams ends up on the bench. Hart is a special talent. Tionna hit almost 0.390 last year. That's fourth in all of badger's history behind Nelson and Livingston, with a freshman setter. She is NOT going to be on the bench. That's still a pretty average number, definitely on the lower end of All-Americans, which is why she was #22 in the nation in hitting percentage. There's also probably a reason that the staff and evaluators in Colorado Springs didn't think Williams was good enough to make Karch's training group, but Hart was. Is there any reason, besides blatant homerism, why Badger fans would be so resistant to this idea? I think this is their best lineup so far this spring, though. Love what Williams can do, but man I think Hart's gonna be really special and way too valuable to just throw on the right. Told ya so.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Aug 19, 2018 7:14:01 GMT -5
Stat lines for the boys were pretty damn good... Dixon wasn't playing around lol. Good for her. Dixon was on a mission! She’s truly embraced the backup setter role: to kick the A-team’s butts every day. She understands that to a large extent, the starting squad can only improve as much as she can push them. Her speed has improved, as has her serve, and she’s got good hands.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Aug 19, 2018 7:17:34 GMT -5
Also, I just want to say... Here's an interesting possibility: Williams on the bench. I’m telling y’all: don’t be surprised if Williams ends up on the bench. Hart is a special talent. That's still a pretty average number, definitely on the lower end of All-Americans, which is why she was #22 in the nation in hitting percentage. There's also probably a reason that the staff and evaluators in Colorado Springs didn't think Williams was good enough to make Karch's training group, but Hart was. Is there any reason, besides blatant homerism, why Badger fans would be so resistant to this idea? I think this is their best lineup so far this spring, though. Love what Williams can do, but man I think Hart's gonna be really special and way too valuable to just throw on the right. Told ya so. That you did. The only thing that makes me doubt this as a blanket statement is that Sheff seems to have some loyalty to his seniors. It’d take a lot, I think, for him to bench Williams. My bet is that Williams starts the year in the middle, and Duello on the right, but that Sheff will be quick to change it up.
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 19, 2018 8:44:44 GMT -5
Three areas... Passing, floor d, and setting. While I like their DS/liberos, I think they may still struggle in serve receive based on their outsides. Though Texas will struggle much more than them in passing this year... Haggerty was targeted as a freshman and more than held up. She will be six rotation and we have solid ds.s. Not sure why you're concerned.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 19, 2018 11:31:57 GMT -5
Also, I just want to say... Told ya so. That you did. The only thing that makes me doubt this as a blanket statement is that Sheff seems to have some loyalty to his seniors. It’d take a lot, I think, for him to bench Williams. My bet is that Williams starts the year in the middle, and Duello on the right, but that Sheff will be quick to change it up. I think this starting lineup is very probable. He's never been that quick to change things up, though. Then again, he's never had so many options.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 19, 2018 11:37:52 GMT -5
Also, I just want to say... Here's an interesting possibility: Williams on the bench. I’m telling y’all: don’t be surprised if Williams ends up on the bench. Hart is a special talent. That's still a pretty average number, definitely on the lower end of All-Americans, which is why she was #22 in the nation in hitting percentage. There's also probably a reason that the staff and evaluators in Colorado Springs didn't think Williams was good enough to make Karch's training group, but Hart was. Is there any reason, besides blatant homerism, why Badger fans would be so resistant to this idea? I think this is their best lineup so far this spring, though. Love what Williams can do, but man I think Hart's gonna be really special and way too valuable to just throw on the right. Told ya so. Yep. But I also seem to remember you also saying recently that if Haggerty was healthy, Duello doesn't see the starting lineup this year. What do you think about Duello v Williams on the right?
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