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Post by knowitmost on Jul 17, 2019 17:46:20 GMT -5
Came across this film from her 2017 High School season after watching the above clip: www.hudl.com/video/3/9635475/59e951011600e301a46bb292These videos are 1 year apart..the growth she shows in both these videos are night and day in 1 year. I trust Robyn, Angelica and Kaleo and the recruits they have coming. Mia seems to be no different and shows growth over that 1 season!! She still has 2 more years before coming to Manoa on top of that.
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Post by DiggUH on Jul 17, 2019 18:47:26 GMT -5
Looks like Mia might also be a pretty decent beach player, so I wonder if she'll play both indoor and beach as a Wahine.
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Post by wahinefan on Jul 17, 2019 20:15:59 GMT -5
Robyn is recruiting the players, and Jeff Hall is reeking the benefits. Especially, since Robyn, it seems, is going after 6 rotation players for her Outside Hitter and quite possibly Opposite positions.
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Post by Psychopotamus on Jul 17, 2019 20:41:05 GMT -5
Robyn is recruiting the players, and Jeff Hall is reeking the benefits. Especially, since Robyn, it seems, is going after 6 rotation players for her Outside Hitter and quite possibly Opposite positions. Reaping
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Post by wahinefan on Jul 17, 2019 21:24:45 GMT -5
Robyn is recruiting the players, and Jeff Hall is reeking the benefits. Especially, since Robyn, it seems, is going after 6 rotation players for her Outside Hitter and quite possibly Opposite positions. Reaping Thank you, Psychopotamus.
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Post by goblin on Jul 17, 2019 21:40:56 GMT -5
Freudian slip Lol
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Post by medusa on Jul 18, 2019 8:51:36 GMT -5
OMG
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Post by newbeach on Jul 18, 2019 13:38:41 GMT -5
Robyn is recruiting the players, and Jeff Hall is reeking the benefits. Especially, since Robyn, it seems, is going after 6 rotation players for her Outside Hitter and quite possibly Opposite positions. Is that a problem? They are both UH teams. And, who is to say that some of these players did not decide to go to a school where they could play beach and indoor? I have heard several Cal Poly recruits say that is why they chose Cal Poly. I think it is better for the school overall all for the teams to work together (much like Shoji and Wong did and Shoji and Hall did).
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Post by Wolfgang on Jul 18, 2019 14:25:26 GMT -5
The problem -- and I"m not sure it's even a "problem" -- is that when your beach team is good and indoor recruits are coming in with the prospect of playing both indoor and beach, the chances of that recruit making one of the flights on the beach team are medium-to-low. So, you've got indoor players like Emma Smith, Gianna Guinasso, Angel Gaskin, Kendra Koelsch, and Annie Mitchem who gave it a go but never cracked the five flights. (To be fair to Koelsch, I don't think she really tried out for the beach team.) So, the idea of good indoor and good beach is great but all those recruits should expect a hard landing when they realize all the beach girls are pretty damn good and the competition is going to be tough.
I actually don't know how good the beach game of the incoming recruits are in comparison to the other beach girls. I think we all say how good so-and-so is but that's always in the abstract. When you actually compare them with actual beach players on the Hawaii team, it's not easy to gauge their skills. Hanna Hellvig, Mia Johnson, and I'm sure there are some names I'm leaving out -- who knows how good they are wrt the current Hawaii beach players?
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Post by HawaiiVB on Jul 18, 2019 15:07:28 GMT -5
The problem -- and I"m not sure it's even a "problem" -- is that when your beach team is good and indoor recruits are coming in with the prospect of playing both indoor and beach, the chances of that recruit making one of the flights on the beach team are medium-to-low. So, you've got indoor players like Emma Smith, Gianna Guinasso, Angel Gaskin, Kendra Koelsch, and Annie Mitchem who gave it a go but never cracked the five flights. (To be fair to Koelsch, I don't think she really tried out for the beach team.) So, the idea of good indoor and good beach is great but all those recruits should expect a hard landing when they realize all the beach girls are pretty damn good and the competition is going to be tough. I actually don't know how good the beach game of the incoming recruits are in comparison to the other beach girls. I think we all say how good so-and-so is but that's always in the abstract. When you actually compare them with actual beach players on the Hawaii team, it's not easy to gauge their skills. Hanna Hellvig, Mia Johnson, and I'm sure there are some names I'm leaving out -- who knows how good they are wrt the current Hawaii beach players? The incoming beach recruits are very, very good. But the returnees are even better. This beach team is super-loaded. Both of the transfers out were scooped up by USC and UCLA's beach team. It comes down to wear and tear. No indoor coach want's its athletes to be worn down next season. But for conditioning sake, playing indoor/outdoor will keep you in top shape.
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Post by wahinefan on Jul 18, 2019 16:54:14 GMT -5
The problem -- and I"m not sure it's even a "problem" -- is that when your beach team is good and indoor recruits are coming in with the prospect of playing both indoor and beach, the chances of that recruit making one of the flights on the beach team are medium-to-low. So, you've got indoor players like Emma Smith, Gianna Guinasso, Angel Gaskin, Kendra Koelsch, and Annie Mitchem who gave it a go but never cracked the five flights. (To be fair to Koelsch, I don't think she really tried out for the beach team.) So, the idea of good indoor and good beach is great but all those recruits should expect a hard landing when they realize all the beach girls are pretty damn good and the competition is going to be tough. I actually don't know how good the beach game of the incoming recruits are in comparison to the other beach girls. I think we all say how good so-and-so is but that's always in the abstract. When you actually compare them with actual beach players on the Hawaii team, it's not easy to gauge their skills. Hanna Hellvig, Mia Johnson, and I'm sure there are some names I'm leaving out -- who knows how good they are wrt the current Hawaii beach players? The incoming beach recruits are very, very good. But the returnees are even better. This beach team is super-loaded. Both of the transfers out were scooped up by USC and UCLA's beach team. It comes down to wear and tear. No indoor coach want's its athletes to be worn down next season. But for conditioning sake, playing indoor/outdoor will keep you in top shape. That is the main reason why teams like Nebraska have a beach team, for conditioning, keep their athletes in top shape, and also to improve their ball handling.
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Post by huskerjen on Jul 18, 2019 17:12:26 GMT -5
The incoming beach recruits are very, very good. But the returnees are even better. This beach team is super-loaded. Both of the transfers out were scooped up by USC and UCLA's beach team. It comes down to wear and tear. No indoor coach want's its athletes to be worn down next season. But for conditioning sake, playing indoor/outdoor will keep you in top shape. That is the main reason why teams like Nebraska have a beach team, for conditioning, keep their athletes in top shape, and also to improve their ball handling. Yes, it's actually the only reason. Cook believes that indoor players develop more quickly by playing beach. The difference is that Hawaii's beach team is much more competitive. It would take a special player to be a cornerstone of Hawaii's indoor team and be in the top flights on the beach team. Those players exist, but there aren't a lot. However, the indoor players for Hawaii who play beach at all should reap the benefits.
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Post by newbeach on Jul 18, 2019 20:02:27 GMT -5
That is the main reason why teams like Nebraska have a beach team, for conditioning, keep their athletes in top shape, and also to improve their ball handling. Yes, it's actually the only reason. Cook believes that indoor players develop more quickly by playing beach. The difference is that Hawaii's beach team is much more competitive. It would take a special player to be a cornerstone of Hawaii's indoor team and be in the top flights on the beach team. Those players exist, but there aren't a lot. However, the indoor players for Hawaii who play beach at all should reap the benefits. Maglio and Taylor were two players that were very successful both indoor and on the beach for UH. A few of the new indoor recruits could possibly follow in their footsteps.
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Post by newbeach on Jul 18, 2019 20:35:41 GMT -5
The problem -- and I"m not sure it's even a "problem" -- is that when your beach team is good and indoor recruits are coming in with the prospect of playing both indoor and beach, the chances of that recruit making one of the flights on the beach team are medium-to-low. So, you've got indoor players like Emma Smith, Gianna Guinasso, Angel Gaskin, Kendra Koelsch, and Annie Mitchem who gave it a go but never cracked the five flights. (To be fair to Koelsch, I don't think she really tried out for the beach team.) So, the idea of good indoor and good beach is great but all those recruits should expect a hard landing when they realize all the beach girls are pretty damn good and the competition is going to be tough. I actually don't know how good the beach game of the incoming recruits are in comparison to the other beach girls. I think we all say how good so-and-so is but that's always in the abstract. When you actually compare them with actual beach players on the Hawaii team, it's not easy to gauge their skills. Hanna Hellvig, Mia Johnson, and I'm sure there are some names I'm leaving out -- who knows how good they are wrt the current Hawaii beach players? I agree the biggest "problem" when you have a competitive beach team, is players getting playing time. I think, with any team, players need to be aware from the start that they have to "earn" a spot on the beach team. Nothing is a given even if you are a really good indoor player or a good beach player. Maglio and Taylor are the two most successful cross-overs of the program. Iosia played at the #4 and #5 flights in 2017 for part of the season. A few other players were Higgins, Anderson, Castillo, Guinasso, Sibley and Mitchem. A few played a match or two at the #5 flights and several were at the #6 flights. Higgins actually played at the #4 and #5 flight as well (2014) but didn't crack the starting line up later on. I think some indoor girls know they won't crack the lineup but play to improve their skills, fitness etc. and some may even want to pursue beach after their indoor college career is over. I think it is an even tougher pill to swallow for some of the beach girls who may potentially lose a spot to an indoor player. Bottom line, players need to get over the fact that the "indoor" players are not "indoor" players when they are on the beach team. They are "beach" players like anyone else and equally deserving of a spot if warranted. If you want to play in the top flights, you have to work hard and be one of the top 10 players with good chemistry with your partner. Maybe the bigger "problem" is for Hall having to manage all the players and the emotions that go along with it. You take the good with the bad. Hall benefits and so do the players and the program because you are fielding your best players. If an indoor volleyball player plays another sport (e.g. Morgan Hentz Stanford, plays volleyball (played beach volleyball) and went out for the track team. She was good enough and therefore on the track team) there doesn't seem to be as many issues. It may be more black and white in some sports...but, if you deserve a spot or a starting position (and want it), then so be it.
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Post by wahinefan on Jul 18, 2019 21:25:35 GMT -5
I can see at least 6 players from the 2019 indoor team playing on the beach team. They are Julie Rasmussen, Kyra Hanawahine, Bailey Choy, Braelyn Akana, Norene Iosia, and Hanna Hellvig. Out of these 6, Norene Iosia, and Hanna Hellvig I am thinking could make one of the flights, with Hanna Hellvig most likely making the biggest impact. The only reason I mentioned Kyra, Bailey, and Braelyn is cause they are from Hawaii.
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