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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 17, 2018 16:11:53 GMT -5
Kind of curious how big a hit UNI's RPI took after their loss last night. Though I suppose it doesn't really matter, since it sounds like it is enough to knock them out of any seed contention, but not enough to knock them out of at-large contention yet. My guess it puts them into the mid 20s or so. RPI is 21, RPI Futures is 20. I think they are fine for an at-large if they don't win the conference tournament.
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 18, 2018 9:27:43 GMT -5
Some comments from what I am seeing in RPI Futures.
It is very close right now for 2-5: Minnesota, Illinois, Texas, and BYU.
I think it is possible for both Creighton and Marquette get a seed. Marquette gets 23-10 St. Johns in the 1st round of the BE tournament. I think the winner of the tournament will be a seed and the loser has a chance depending on how Baylor, Washington, Florida, Purdue finish the season.
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Post by azsker on Nov 18, 2018 10:26:12 GMT -5
Here is my bracket based on RPI Futures as of this morning. 1. Stanford: Tennessee, Saint Marys, Bryant 16. Florida: UCLA, Duke, College of Charleston 8. Pittsburgh: Michigan, Miami-OH, American 9. Wisconsin: Marquette, Illinois State, Green Bay 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Louisville, Murray State 13. UCF: Florida State, Arizona, Florida Gulf Coast 5. USC: Cal Poly, Pepperdine, Northern Arizona 12. Penn State: Syracuse, Dayton, Stony Brook 2. BYU: Colorado State, Utah, Howard 15. Washington: Baylor, San Diego, Denver 7. Kentucky: Purdue, East Tennessee State, Alabama A&M 10. Nebraska: Missouri, Kansas State, High Point 3. Minnesota: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Iona 14. Creighton: Oregon, Kansas, Stephen F. Austin 6. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 11. Washington State: South Carolina, Hawaii, Yale Last 4 In: Colorado, Hawaii, Arizona, Kansas State First 4 Out: LMU, Notre Dame, James Madison, Princeton How about not screwing Wisconsin over for the 5th time in 6 years by placing them in the best teams regional. That would be 3 years in a row in Stanford’s regional And before that 2 with Penn State national championship years In 3 of those years Wisconsin gave the eventual national champion the closest match they played on way to championship. They also had Stanford at home with Carlini as a senior year and weren’t they even up 2-0?? And last year they werent even seeded but we’re placed with Iowa State-I consider that a nice gift from the committee. You'd have to beat them sooner or later so it really doesn’t matter. I wouldn’t calling it screwing them over. I call it being punished for losing to teams like Baylor, Iowa and Michigan.
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 18, 2018 21:58:17 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures.
1. Stanford: South Carolina, Saint Marys, Alabama State 16. Baylor: Oregon, Stephen F. Austin, High Point 8. Kentucky: Purdue, East Tennessee State, Murray State 9. Wisconsin: Illinois State, UCLA, Green Bay
4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast
2. Minnesota: Pepperdine, Arizona, Iona 15. Washington State: Tennessee, Denver, Samford 7. Pittsburgh: Michigan, Yale, Howard 10. Nebraska: Missouri, Kansas, South Dakota
3. BYU: Colorado State, Utah, Bryant 14. Marquette: Washington, Louisville, Hofstra 6. USC: Cal Poly, San Diego, Northern Arizona 11. Penn State: Syracuse, Dayton, Navy
Last 4 In: Hawaii, Colorado, San Diego, Saint Marys The 4 before these: Arizona, Kansas, Utah, Denver
First 4 Out: Notre Dame, Kansas State, Maryland, Princeton
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Post by lionsfan on Nov 18, 2018 22:03:53 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures. 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast 6. USC: Cal Poly, San Diego, Northern Arizona Now that's some exciting 1st & 2nd round action!
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Post by eastcoastopp on Nov 18, 2018 22:42:48 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures. 16. Baylor: Oregon, Stephen F. Austin, High Point 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 15. Washington State: Tennessee, Denver, Samford 14. Marquette: Washington, Louisville, Hofstra These could get pretty interesting too. Especially 13.
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Post by tallguy86 on Nov 18, 2018 22:44:19 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures. 1. Stanford: South Carolina, Saint Marys, Alabama State 16. Baylor: Oregon, Stephen F. Austin, High Point 8. Kentucky: Purdue, East Tennessee State, Murray State 9. Wisconsin: Illinois State, UCLA, Green Bay 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast 2. Minnesota: Pepperdine, Arizona, Iona 15. Washington State: Tennessee, Denver, Samford 7. Pittsburgh: Michigan, Yale, Howard 10. Nebraska: Missouri, Kansas, South Dakota 3. BYU: Colorado State, Utah, Bryant 14. Marquette: Washington, Louisville, Hofstra 6. USC: Cal Poly, San Diego, Northern Arizona 11. Penn State: Syracuse, Dayton, Navy Last 4 In: Hawaii, Colorado, San Diego, Saint Marys The 4 before these: Arizona, Kansas, Utah, Denver First 4 Out: Notre Dame, Kansas State, Maryland, Princeton You really think they would move BYU to #3? Not you, too?!
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Post by badgerbreath on Nov 18, 2018 23:18:01 GMT -5
Remind me, how closely have the past seedings actually matched the RPI in past years?
My sense if that RPI works really well as a cut off for getting a seed, or getting into the tournament, but less well as a predictor of seeding position. Maybe that impression results from the fact that exact seeding position has a big effect on a teams path to the final four, and so little deviations matter more.
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Post by BLASÉ on Nov 18, 2018 23:20:46 GMT -5
how shocking, the stars always align for texas to have the easiest path to reach the ff
4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook
13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan
5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley
12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast
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Post by Steve vb on Nov 18, 2018 23:43:19 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures. 1. Stanford: South Carolina, Saint Marys, Alabama State 16. Baylor: Oregon, Stephen F. Austin, High Point 8. Kentucky: Purdue, East Tennessee State, Murray State 9. Wisconsin: Illinois State, UCLA, Green Bay 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast 2. Minnesota: Pepperdine, Arizona, Iona 15. Washington State: Tennessee, Denver, Samford 7. Pittsburgh: Michigan, Yale, Howard 10. Nebraska: Missouri, Kansas, South Dakota 3. BYU: Colorado State, Utah, Bryant 14. Marquette: Washington, Louisville, Hofstra 6. USC: Cal Poly, San Diego, Northern Arizona 11. Penn State: Syracuse, Dayton, Navy Last 4 In: Hawaii, Colorado, San Diego, Saint Marys The 4 before these: Arizona, Kansas, Utah, Denver First 4 Out: Notre Dame, Kansas State, Maryland, Princeton I'm surprised to see the prediction of #8 Kentucky having to host Purdue. I assumed that Purdue would go to whoever has the 13th or 14th seed.
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Post by eastcoastopp on Nov 18, 2018 23:45:47 GMT -5
how shocking, the stars always align for texas to have the easiest path to reach the ff 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast Is this sarcasm? Somewhat easy trip to the Sweet 16, maybe. But I don't see how beating either UCF or Florida AND Creighton or Illinois can be considered easy. Texas wouldn't be at home for any of those regional matches so none of those are locks for them.
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Post by big10+4 fan on Nov 18, 2018 23:50:08 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures. 1. Stanford: South Carolina, Saint Marys, Alabama State 16. Baylor: Oregon, Stephen F. Austin, High Point 8. Kentucky: Purdue, East Tennessee State, Murray State 9. Wisconsin: Illinois State, UCLA, Green Bay 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast 2. Minnesota: Pepperdine, Arizona, Iona 15. Washington State: Tennessee, Denver, Samford 7. Pittsburgh: Michigan, Yale, Howard 10. Nebraska: Missouri, Kansas, South Dakota 3. BYU: Colorado State, Utah, Bryant 14. Marquette: Washington, Louisville, Hofstra 6. USC: Cal Poly, San Diego, Northern Arizona 11. Penn State: Syracuse, Dayton, Navy Last 4 In: Hawaii, Colorado, San Diego, Saint Marys The 4 before these: Arizona, Kansas, Utah, Denver First 4 Out: Notre Dame, Kansas State, Maryland, Princeton I'm surprised to see the prediction of #8 Kentucky having to host Purdue. I assumed that Purdue would go to whoever has the 13th or 14th seed. They would most likely send Purdue to whichever seed is closest to them (non conference team obviously) for travel purposes
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Post by Steve vb on Nov 18, 2018 23:54:21 GMT -5
I'm surprised to see the prediction of #8 Kentucky having to host Purdue. I assumed that Purdue would go to whoever has the 13th or 14th seed. They would most likely send Purdue to whichever seed is closest to them (non conference team obviously) for travel purposes I wouldn't be surprised to see Purdue go to Marquette if Marquette hosts (219 miles).
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Post by huskersrule95 on Nov 18, 2018 23:56:25 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures. 1. Stanford: South Carolina, Saint Marys, Alabama State 16. Baylor: Oregon, Stephen F. Austin, High Point 8. Kentucky: Purdue, East Tennessee State, Murray State 9. Wisconsin: Illinois State, UCLA, Green Bay 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast 2. Minnesota: Pepperdine, Arizona, Iona 15. Washington State: Tennessee, Denver, Samford 7. Pittsburgh: Michigan, Yale, Howard 10. Nebraska: Missouri, Kansas, South Dakota 3. BYU: Colorado State, Utah, Bryant 14. Marquette: Washington, Louisville, Hofstra 6. USC: Cal Poly, San Diego, Northern Arizona 11. Penn State: Syracuse, Dayton, Navy Last 4 In: Hawaii, Colorado, San Diego, Saint Marys The 4 before these: Arizona, Kansas, Utah, Denver First 4 Out: Notre Dame, Kansas State, Maryland, Princeton I know you are basing this on RPI futures but I think Nebraska will end up higher seed than their RPI #. They were #9 ranked by the committee early rankings and if win their last 2 will have gone 8-0 since then have wins against Penn State, @ Michigan, @ Purdue. USC will still be #6 in RPI futures with 9 losses and their bad loss vs Arizona State today ?
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Post by big10+4 fan on Nov 18, 2018 23:59:18 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures. 1. Stanford: South Carolina, Saint Marys, Alabama State 16. Baylor: Oregon, Stephen F. Austin, High Point 8. Kentucky: Purdue, East Tennessee State, Murray State 9. Wisconsin: Illinois State, UCLA, Green Bay 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast 2. Minnesota: Pepperdine, Arizona, Iona 15. Washington State: Tennessee, Denver, Samford 7. Pittsburgh: Michigan, Yale, Howard 10. Nebraska: Missouri, Kansas, South Dakota 3. BYU: Colorado State, Utah, Bryant 14. Marquette: Washington, Louisville, Hofstra 6. USC: Cal Poly, San Diego, Northern Arizona 11. Penn State: Syracuse, Dayton, Navy Last 4 In: Hawaii, Colorado, San Diego, Saint Marys The 4 before these: Arizona, Kansas, Utah, Denver First 4 Out: Notre Dame, Kansas State, Maryland, Princeton I know you are basing this on RPI futures but I think Nebraska will end up higher seed than their RPI #. They were #9 ranked by the committee early rankings and if win their last 2 will have gone 8-0 since then have wins against Penn State, @ Michigan, @ Purdue. USC will still be #6 in RPI futures with 9 losses and their bad loss vs Arizona State today ? But remember last year, we were 2 and did nothing but win and dropped to 5th.
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