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Post by huskersrule95 on Nov 19, 2018 0:04:40 GMT -5
I know you are basing this on RPI futures but I think Nebraska will end up higher seed than their RPI #. They were #9 ranked by the committee early rankings and if win their last 2 will have gone 8-0 since then have wins against Penn State, @ Michigan, @ Purdue. USC will still be #6 in RPI futures with 9 losses and their bad loss vs Arizona State today ? But remember last year, we were 2 and did nothing but win and dropped to 5th. Yes. We have some better wins this year though. Last year the end schedule was much weaker.
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Post by horns1 on Nov 19, 2018 0:07:56 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures. 1. Stanford: South Carolina, Saint Marys, Alabama State 16. Baylor: Oregon, Stephen F. Austin, High Point 8. Kentucky: Purdue, East Tennessee State, Murray State 9. Wisconsin: Illinois State, UCLA, Green Bay 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast 2. Minnesota: Pepperdine, Arizona, Iona 15. Washington State: Tennessee, Denver, Samford 7. Pittsburgh: Michigan, Yale, Howard 10. Nebraska: Missouri, Kansas, South Dakota 3. BYU: Colorado State, Utah, Bryant 14. Marquette: Washington, Louisville, Hofstra 6. USC: Cal Poly, San Diego, Northern Arizona 11. Penn State: Syracuse, Dayton, Navy Last 4 In: Hawaii, Colorado, San Diego, Saint Marys The 4 before these: Arizona, Kansas, Utah, Denver First 4 Out: Notre Dame, Kansas State, Maryland, Princeton You really think they would move BYU to #3? Not you, too?! I don't see that happening. I see them no lower than #2.
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Post by big10+4 fan on Nov 19, 2018 0:08:20 GMT -5
But remember last year, we were 2 and did nothing but win and dropped to 5th. Yes. We have some better wins this year though. Last year the end schedule was much weaker. Plus our rpi is worse this year
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Post by BLASÉ on Nov 19, 2018 0:48:41 GMT -5
how shocking, the stars always align for texas to have the easiest path to reach the ff 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast Is this sarcasm? Somewhat easy trip to the Sweet 16, maybe. But I don't see how beating either UCF or Florida AND Creighton or Illinois can be considered easy. Texas wouldn't be at home for any of those regional matches so none of those are locks for them. no it is not sarcasm unless you're florida fan
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Post by horns1 on Nov 19, 2018 0:54:29 GMT -5
how shocking, the stars always align for texas to have the easiest path to reach the ff 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast Didn't realize you were an astronomy expert.
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Post by eastcoastopp on Nov 19, 2018 1:12:40 GMT -5
Is this sarcasm? Somewhat easy trip to the Sweet 16, maybe. But I don't see how beating either UCF or Florida AND Creighton or Illinois can be considered easy. Texas wouldn't be at home for any of those regional matches so none of those are locks for them. no it is not sarcasm unless you're florida fan So you just don't like Texas? Your statement implied that Texas frequently gets the opportunity to skate through the first four rounds. The last time they weren't really tested in the rounds preceding the Final Four (when they made it) was 2014. 2015- Won in 5 vs Florida in the Elite 8 2016- Won in 5 vs BYU in the Sweet 16 2017- Won in 5 vs Utah in the Sweet 16 On paper (based on seeding) they should have won easily, but that's why the game is played.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 19, 2018 1:24:47 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures. 1. Stanford: South Carolina, Saint Marys, Alabama State 16. Baylor: Oregon, Stephen F. Austin, High Point 8. Kentucky: Purdue, East Tennessee State, Murray State 9. Wisconsin: Illinois State, UCLA, Green Bay 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast 2. Minnesota: Pepperdine, Arizona, Iona 15. Washington State: Tennessee, Denver, Samford 7. Pittsburgh: Michigan, Yale, Howard 10. Nebraska: Missouri, Kansas, South Dakota 3. BYU: Colorado State, Utah, Bryant 14. Marquette: Washington, Louisville, Hofstra 6. USC: Cal Poly, San Diego, Northern Arizona 11. Penn State: Syracuse, Dayton, Navy Last 4 In: Hawaii, Colorado, San Diego, Saint Marys The 4 before these: Arizona, Kansas, Utah, Denver First 4 Out: Notre Dame, Kansas State, Maryland, Princeton Uppermidwest overload on the seeds. Going to give the committee the liberty to get very interesting with match-ups.
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Post by volleyball303 on Nov 19, 2018 7:10:35 GMT -5
If UCLA does not get in what first 4 out makes it? Lanier should be back for USC and I know Colorado went 5 with OSU but it was a pretty high level match. Watching UCLA, Colorado and USC over the weekend something has to change for UCLA to win one of those matches.
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 19, 2018 7:57:08 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures. 1. Stanford: South Carolina, Saint Marys, Alabama State 16. Baylor: Oregon, Stephen F. Austin, High Point 8. Kentucky: Purdue, East Tennessee State, Murray State 9. Wisconsin: Illinois State, UCLA, Green Bay 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast 2. Minnesota: Pepperdine, Arizona, Iona 15. Washington State: Tennessee, Denver, Samford 7. Pittsburgh: Michigan, Yale, Howard 10. Nebraska: Missouri, Kansas, South Dakota 3. BYU: Colorado State, Utah, Bryant 14. Marquette: Washington, Louisville, Hofstra 6. USC: Cal Poly, San Diego, Northern Arizona 11. Penn State: Syracuse, Dayton, Navy Last 4 In: Hawaii, Colorado, San Diego, Saint Marys The 4 before these: Arizona, Kansas, Utah, Denver First 4 Out: Notre Dame, Kansas State, Maryland, Princeton I'm surprised to see the prediction of #8 Kentucky having to host Purdue. I assumed that Purdue would go to whoever has the 13th or 14th seed. If I was to do this by matching lowest seeded team with highest RPI (with least amount of travel) it would end up being this matchup, which I think might be more likely. 16. Baylor - Washington (19) 14. Marquette - Purdue (18) 9. Wisconsin - Oregon (20) 8. Kentucky - Michigan (22) 7. Pittsburgh - Cincinnati (25) 4. Illinois - Illinois State (31)
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 19, 2018 8:04:13 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures. 1. Stanford: South Carolina, Saint Marys, Alabama State 16. Baylor: Oregon, Stephen F. Austin, High Point 8. Kentucky: Purdue, East Tennessee State, Murray State 9. Wisconsin: Illinois State, UCLA, Green Bay 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast 2. Minnesota: Pepperdine, Arizona, Iona 15. Washington State: Tennessee, Denver, Samford 7. Pittsburgh: Michigan, Yale, Howard 10. Nebraska: Missouri, Kansas, South Dakota 3. BYU: Colorado State, Utah, Bryant 14. Marquette: Washington, Louisville, Hofstra 6. USC: Cal Poly, San Diego, Northern Arizona 11. Penn State: Syracuse, Dayton, Navy Last 4 In: Hawaii, Colorado, San Diego, Saint Marys The 4 before these: Arizona, Kansas, Utah, Denver First 4 Out: Notre Dame, Kansas State, Maryland, Princeton You really think they would move BYU to #3? Not you, too?! BYU had a pretty bad weekend in terms of RPI. It now is likely that BYU will end up being #5 in RPI. This 'bad' weekend also impacted the quality of their wins in terms of RPI to where it really isn't much different than Texas. OTH, Minnesota had a very good RPI weekend and has greatly improved their chances of finishing #2 in RPI. As such, I think it is possible that Minnesota as the #2 RPI will get the #2 seed and BYU as the #5 RPI may 'fall' to #3 seed. I don't think it is likely that an undefeated BYU will lose a regional host seed - but man, things worked out poorly this week. Ironically - I moved BYU back to #2 in my poll this week dropping Minnesota to #3.
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Post by horns1 on Nov 19, 2018 8:07:48 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures. 1. Stanford: South Carolina, Saint Marys, Alabama State 16. Baylor: Oregon, Stephen F. Austin, High Point 8. Kentucky: Purdue, East Tennessee State, Murray State 9. Wisconsin: Illinois State, UCLA, Green Bay 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast 2. Minnesota: Pepperdine, Arizona, Iona 15. Washington State: Tennessee, Denver, Samford 7. Pittsburgh: Michigan, Yale, Howard 10. Nebraska: Missouri, Kansas, South Dakota 3. BYU: Colorado State, Utah, Bryant 14. Marquette: Washington, Louisville, Hofstra 6. USC: Cal Poly, San Diego, Northern Arizona 11. Penn State: Syracuse, Dayton, Navy Last 4 In: Hawaii, Colorado, San Diego, Saint Marys The 4 before these: Arizona, Kansas, Utah, Denver First 4 Out: Notre Dame, Kansas State, Maryland, Princeton Very good logic and balance.
But, I don't see the need to ship South Carolina all the way to Stanford when they could be sent to Minnesota instead. And, that would allow Pepperdine to be sent to Stanford. Seems like an even swap.
Pepperdine staying out West somewhere could prevent Tennessee or South Carolina from having to fly so far.
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Post by FreeBall on Nov 19, 2018 8:16:23 GMT -5
In bluepenguin's bracket prediction which you quoted, Saint Mary's is already being sent to Stanford. So, fellow WCC member Pepperdine could not also be sent there.
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 19, 2018 8:16:25 GMT -5
Here is my updated bracket based on how I think the committee would process the current RPI Futures. 1. Stanford: South Carolina, Saint Marys, Alabama State 16. Baylor: Oregon, Stephen F. Austin, High Point 8. Kentucky: Purdue, East Tennessee State, Murray State 9. Wisconsin: Illinois State, UCLA, Green Bay 4. Illinois: Cincinnati, Hawaii, Stony Brook 13. Creighton: Northern Iowa, Colorado, Eastern Michigan 5. Texas: Texas State, Rice, UT Rio Grande Valley 12. UCF: Florida, Florida State, Florida Gulf Coast 2. Minnesota: Pepperdine, Arizona, Iona 15. Washington State: Tennessee, Denver, Samford 7. Pittsburgh: Michigan, Yale, Howard 10. Nebraska: Missouri, Kansas, South Dakota 3. BYU: Colorado State, Utah, Bryant 14. Marquette: Washington, Louisville, Hofstra 6. USC: Cal Poly, San Diego, Northern Arizona 11. Penn State: Syracuse, Dayton, Navy Last 4 In: Hawaii, Colorado, San Diego, Saint Marys The 4 before these: Arizona, Kansas, Utah, Denver First 4 Out: Notre Dame, Kansas State, Maryland, Princeton Very good logic and balance.
But, I don't see the need to ship South Carolina all the way to Stanford when they could be sent to Minnesota instead. And, that would allow Pepperdine to be sent to Stanford. Seems like an even swap.
Pepperdine staying out West somewhere could prevent Tennessee or South Carolina from having to fly so far.
Only one of Pepperdine and Saint Marys could go to Stanford (same conference along with USD). It kind of works out that the SEC teams have to move out West since there are so many unseeded PAC and Big West teams and the top B1G teams are within driving of so many seeded teams and those SEC teams have to fly regardless. I guess it might work putting either South Carolina/Tennessee to Minny and Pepperdine to Washington State - but if I was the SEC team I would rather take my chances against Washington State.
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Post by snickers on Nov 19, 2018 8:31:01 GMT -5
After Stanford, the difference in RPI among the teams becomes extremely small. So my guess is that The Committee will start to look at the other factors, like top 25 wins, SOS, head-to-head, etc. Even if MN loses to Penn State this weekend, I think they are they 2 or 3 seed.
RPI| 1 Stanford PAC 0.7661 2 Minnesota BIG10 0.7207 3 Texas BIG12 0.7197 4 Illinois BIG10 0.7142 5 BYU WCC 0.7087 6 Wisconsin BIG10 0.7010
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Nov 19, 2018 10:14:13 GMT -5
I'm surprised to see the prediction of #8 Kentucky having to host Purdue. I assumed that Purdue would go to whoever has the 13th or 14th seed. If I was to do this by matching lowest seeded team with highest RPI (with least amount of travel) it would end up being this matchup, which I think might be more likely. 16. Baylor - Washington (19) 14. Marquette - Purdue (18) 9. Wisconsin - Oregon (20) 8. Kentucky - Michigan (22) 7. Pittsburgh - Cincinnati (25) 4. Illinois - Illinois State (31) These matchups look better for bracket integrity.
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