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Post by flipley on Dec 20, 2018 16:53:51 GMT -5
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Post by WI FIB on Dec 20, 2018 17:04:18 GMT -5
Can someone explain our scholarship situation? I think we now show 18 players (19 if Bruna comes on board) for 12 scholarships. I know that not all defensive players receive one, but even without counting those folks we have more players than scholarships. If I remember correctly, scholarships can not be split in volleyball. 1. There are walk-ons who won't get any scholarship money, but can get academic aid enough to be able to go to school. 2. Not every scholarship player is on scholarship every year they are a member. They are eligible for academic aid when they are not on athletic scholarship.
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Post by tallguy86 on Dec 20, 2018 18:05:57 GMT -5
I figured y'all would pick up Allison. Illini aren't gonna miss a beat next year. She's really good. I think Mica is a great player. Do I think she is a great setter yet? no. I think she has a lot to work on this spring with Tamas and crew to run this B1G team. I think we may see Allison and Brown start the season with a 6-2 and maybe once Allison gets better at being a frontrow setter she take over and use the 5-1. ? She knows how to be a front row setter. This is pure speculation. To run a 6-2, you need 4 pin hitters. We barely had 3 this season.
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Post by tallguy86 on Dec 20, 2018 18:09:06 GMT -5
Comparing freshman stats for Poulter and Allison, Poulter's numbers listed first: Pts/set: 1.09 vs 1.11 Sets: 104 vs 105 Kills: 56 vs 79 Pct.: .241 vs .174 Digs: 223 vs 191 Blocks: 81 vs 50 Assists: 1088 vs 1055 The only thing that stands out her are the digs. Yikes. JP wasn’t exactly a defensive prodigy, so for MA’s numbers to be significantly worse is troubling.
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 20, 2018 18:30:37 GMT -5
Comparing freshman stats for Poulter and Allison, Poulter's numbers listed first: Pts/set: 1.09 vs 1.11 Sets: 104 vs 105 Kills: 56 vs 79 Pct.: .241 vs .174 Digs: 223 vs 191 Blocks: 81 vs 50 Assists: 1088 vs 1055 The only thing that stands out her are the digs. Yikes. JP wasn’t exactly a defensive prodigy, so for MA’s numbers to be significantly worse is troubling. I wouldn't put much stock into that. Auburn isn't exactly known for their defense.
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Post by oldmanvb on Dec 20, 2018 18:31:47 GMT -5
Most volleyball stats should be taken with a grain of salt. The blocks numbers are more disparate, but is that because Allison is that much worse as a blocker or because she wasn’t participating in Ali’s block totals? Also, comparing BIG stats with SEC stats can be very misleading.
All I know is that I already can’t wait for the 2019 season to begin. Until then, the BTN+ subscription with all of the replays will have to suffice.
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Post by tallguy86 on Dec 20, 2018 18:40:52 GMT -5
Blocking differences shouldn’t come as a surprise. JP might be one of the best blocking setters in recent memory. Anyone is going to be a step down from that perspective.
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Post by brucks on Dec 20, 2018 18:48:36 GMT -5
Most volleyball stats should be taken with a grain of salt. The blocks numbers are more disparate, but is that because Allison is that much worse as a blocker or because she wasn’t participating in Ali’s block totals? Also, comparing BIG stats with SEC stats can be very misleading. All I know is that I already can’t wait for the 2019 season to begin. Until then, the BTN+ subscription with all of the replays will have to suffice. This. I could probably rack up 50 blocks if I played next to Ali and I'm 70 years old, short and overweight.
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Post by 642fiddi on Dec 20, 2018 18:56:32 GMT -5
Most volleyball stats should be taken with a grain of salt. The blocks numbers are more disparate, but is that because Allison is that much worse as a blocker or because she wasn’t participating in Ali’s block totals? Also, comparing BIG stats with SEC stats can be very misleading. All I know is that I already can’t wait for the 2019 season to begin. Until then, the BTN+ subscription with all of the replays will have to suffice. This. I could probably rack up 50 blocks if I played next to Ali and I'm 70 years old, short and overweight. russ rose is that you?
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Post by oldmanvb on Dec 20, 2018 19:08:28 GMT -5
Most volleyball stats should be taken with a grain of salt. The blocks numbers are more disparate, but is that because Allison is that much worse as a blocker or because she wasn’t participating in Ali’s block totals? Also, comparing BIG stats with SEC stats can be very misleading. All I know is that I already can’t wait for the 2019 season to begin. Until then, the BTN+ subscription with all of the replays will have to suffice. This. I could probably rack up 50 blocks if I played next to Ali and I'm 70 years old, short and overweight. Wait. It’s my job on this thread to be old, short and overweight, even though I’m a year short of 70.
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Post by vbkahuna on Dec 20, 2018 19:08:39 GMT -5
Comparing freshman stats for Poulter and Allison, Poulter's numbers listed first: Pts/set: 1.09 vs 1.11 Sets: 104 vs 105 Kills: 56 vs 79 Pct.: .241 vs .174 Digs: 223 vs 191 Blocks: 81 vs 50 Assists: 1088 vs 1055 The only thing that stands out her are the digs. Yikes. JP wasn’t exactly a defensive prodigy, so for MA’s numbers to be significantly worse is troubling. "Troubling"? You're comparing raw stats of the best setter in the entire country on the #3 team in the country against a freshman on a team that didn't even make the playoffs and you believe the differences are "troubling"? Thanks for your assessment but I think I'll wait until I see how she plays after the Illinois coaching staff has a chance to train and prepare her. The fact she was the #7 recruit from high school, played on the US Junior National Team, and earned all conference honors at Auburn seems to indicate she has considerable ability. I don't find that very troubling at all.
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Post by tallguy86 on Dec 20, 2018 19:08:41 GMT -5
Thinking about it more, I think MA’s transfer is a really big deal because it shows that Illinois is able to play with the big boys and become a destination school even if it means telling top recruits that you have to compete. Texas, Nebraska, and PSU have had this for years. Though Illinois had a great season, it took having the best setter in the country and only two others to make up the #1 recruiting class, but Illinois had no bench. What other perennial top program can say that? For years, PSU’s bench could have finished in the top 3 in the conference on its own. Also, this points out another big difference between hambly and Tamas. After Colleen Ward transferred in, KH said he doesn’t want the reputation of snagging transfers every year. Tamas would never say that because that’s how you build consistently good programs nowadays in the free agaency NCAA. (Stanford aside from that) if Tamas has his druthers, he’d pick up two transfers every season, just like Cook would.
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Post by tallguy86 on Dec 20, 2018 19:10:50 GMT -5
The only thing that stands out her are the digs. Yikes. JP wasn’t exactly a defensive prodigy, so for MA’s numbers to be significantly worse is troubling. "Troubling"? You're comparing raw stats of the best setter in the entire country on the #3 team in the country against a freshman on a team that didn't even make the playoffs and you believe the differences are "troubling"? Thanks for your assessment but I think I'll wait until I see how she plays after the Illinois coaching staff has a chance to train and prepare her. The fact she was the #7 recruit from high school, played on the US Junior National Team, and earned all conference honors at Auburn seems to indicate she has considerable ability. I don't find that very troubling at all. Those were Poulter’s freshman stats. Notice I wasn’t bothered by any other difference, but digging is important for setters. She should have been able to get more dogs in the easier SEC. so yes, troubling. Didn’t say she wouldn’t be a good fit. I think she’ll do great.
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Post by brucks on Dec 20, 2018 20:34:31 GMT -5
This. I could probably rack up 50 blocks if I played next to Ali and I'm 70 years old, short and overweight. russ rose is that you? Nah, I dress better than Russ.
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Post by butterfingers on Dec 20, 2018 20:34:34 GMT -5
"Troubling"? You're comparing raw stats of the best setter in the entire country on the #3 team in the country against a freshman on a team that didn't even make the playoffs and you believe the differences are "troubling"? Thanks for your assessment but I think I'll wait until I see how she plays after the Illinois coaching staff has a chance to train and prepare her. The fact she was the #7 recruit from high school, played on the US Junior National Team, and earned all conference honors at Auburn seems to indicate she has considerable ability. I don't find that very troubling at all. Those were Poulter’s freshman stats. Notice I wasn’t bothered by any other difference, but digging is important for setters. She should have been able to get more dogs in the easier SEC. so yes, troubling. Didn’t say she wouldn’t be a good fit. I think she’ll do great. This doesn't make any sense. How many times was Poulter hit at? How many opportunities did Mica have for digs? Total digs without context is meaningless. You're looking for how many digs she got per opportunity - as well as the quality of those digs. Are they perfect? Are you having to send a freeball because the dig was crap? All this stuff matters if you're evaluating how elite a defender is.
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