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Post by vbct3 on Jan 10, 2019 19:53:33 GMT -5
I am willing to bet neither Plummer nor Hentz will be in Tokyo. They graduate in may... Stanford is a quarter school. Therefore they would be graduating in mid-June - not May.
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Post by alohavball on Jan 10, 2019 20:41:24 GMT -5
At the Olympics most teams usually bring a roster comprised of 4 OH, 2 OP, 3 MB, 2 S, and 1 L (12 total).
In the case of injury,each position has at least one backup except the libero. 12 is a good number IMO because it puts pressure on teams to literally bring the best of the best for each position along with respective backups. It also challenges coaches to be able to rotate and put different combinations of players that'll help them change the momentum of a match. The unfortunate downfall would be if your libero ends up injured. Remember that these olympic games are not only a battle against players, but also for the coaches.
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 10, 2019 20:50:28 GMT -5
Out of a 12 person roster you should be able to fill those last 1-2 spots with young players you know would benefit from experiencing an Olympic Games so they are that much more comfortable next go around. Those last 2 spots shouldn’t see much PT, but if you took Plummer & Rettke they could definitely bring some blocking prowess & a few big swings in a spot that calls for it... I disagree. 12 is a pretty limited roster. If you're doing the double sub, that uses 9 players per set. Definitely need a backup OH and a backup MB. So maybe that would leave you with one roster spot to play around with as a developmental spot. But the reality is that with a 12-person roster almost every person included is one sprained ankle from starting. I never understood why the FIVB has to limit the team roster for the Olympics to just 12. Whatever was the reason? The other major FIVB tournaments do not have such strict limits.
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 10, 2019 20:52:13 GMT -5
What are people's thoughts on the major competitions having a 14 player roster, while the Olympics is still 12. Is there a reason the Olympics hasn't followed suit? It would be beneficial to all teams, but where we are talking about the USA here, it would have surely helped them in 2016. They could have had Hodge as an additional OH and Fawcett as an OPP/OH - not just alternates. In 2020, it could allow the coaching stuff to invest in a couple younger players, since we seem to see the same 12-14 players, who at the moment, don't seem like they're going to get the job done. I don't see it changing for several reasons. The format at the Olympics requires no travel and provides at least one day of rest in between matches, putting less physical stress on players than other tournaments. In addition, adding two more players per team in the Olympic Village is actually a big deal. And why would it be bad? 12 seems like an artificial number.
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Post by ballervolley on Jan 10, 2019 22:25:42 GMT -5
At the Olympics most teams usually bring a roster comprised of 4 OH, 2 OP, 3 MB, 2 S, and 1 L (12 total). In the case of injury,each position has at least one backup except the libero. 12 is a good number IMO because it puts pressure on teams to literally bring the best of the best for each position along with respective backups. It also challenges coaches to be able to rotate and put different combinations of players that'll help them change the momentum of a match. The unfortunate downfall would be if your libero ends up injured. Remember that these olympic games are not only a battle against players, but also for the coaches. The us coaches like to bring a cheerleader also on their roster.
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Post by volleyguy on Jan 10, 2019 23:16:21 GMT -5
I don't see it changing for several reasons. The format at the Olympics requires no travel and provides at least one day of rest in between matches, putting less physical stress on players than other tournaments. In addition, adding two more players per team in the Olympic Village is actually a big deal. And why would it be bad? 12 seems like an artificial number. It's a big deal because availability of space for athletes in the Olympic Village is limited and already scarce.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 23:18:46 GMT -5
When I need motivation My one solution is my queen 'Cause she' stay strong yeah yeah She is always in my corner Right there when I want her All these other girls are tempting But I'm empty when you're gone And they say Do you need me Do you think I'm pretty Do I make you feel like cheating. And I'm like no, not really 'cause Oh I think that I found myself a cheerleader She is always right there when I need her Oh I think that I found myself a cheerleader She is always right there when I need her
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 11, 2019 0:01:42 GMT -5
And why would it be bad? 12 seems like an artificial number. It's a big deal because availability of space for athletes in the Olympic Village is limited and already scarce. Nothing the FIVB and IOC can't fix if they put their minds to it. Accommodation sounds like a poor excuse for limiting it to 12 anyway.
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Post by volleyguy on Jan 11, 2019 0:16:19 GMT -5
It's a big deal because availability of space for athletes in the Olympic Village is limited and already scarce. Nothing the FIVB and IOC can't fix if they put their minds to it. Accommodation sounds like a poor excuse for limiting it to 12 anyway. Money is always at the fore of the IOC and FIVB decisions. Río probably marked the end of free-wheeling (and reckless) spending by host nations for a while. As repeat hosts and expensive urban locations, Tokyo and Los Angeles will be more pragmatic in their approach to facility utilization and construction. The Olympic Village is a massive undertaking.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 1:11:02 GMT -5
It's a big deal because availability of space for athletes in the Olympic Village is limited and already scarce. Nothing the FIVB and IOC can't fix if they put their minds to it. Accommodation sounds like a poor excuse for limiting it to 12 anyway. If IOC allows volleyball to have 2 extra players in each team....all other sports will want the same. Soccer squad rules for the World Cup: Eeach team had to name a preliminary squad of 35 players. From the preliminary squad, the team had to name a final squad of 23 players ( three of whom must be goalkeepers). Players in the final squad may be replaced for serious injury up to 24 hours prior to kickoff of the team's first match and such replacements do not need to have been named in the preliminary squad. Rules for the Olympics: Each team had to submit a squad of 18 players, two of whom had to be goalkeepers. Each team might also have a list of four alternate players, who might replace any player in the squad in case of injury during the tournament.[16] In the WC they can have 23 players...In the OG only 18.
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 11, 2019 3:01:24 GMT -5
Nothing the FIVB and IOC can't fix if they put their minds to it. Accommodation sounds like a poor excuse for limiting it to 12 anyway. Money is always at the fore of the IOC and FIVB decisions. Río probably marked the end of free-wheeling (and reckless) spending by host nations for a while. As repeat hosts and expensive urban locations, Tokyo and Los Angeles will be more pragmatic in their approach to facility utilization and construction. The Olympic Village is a massive undertaking. Nah, I don't buy that it is so impossibly expensive to accommodate 2 extra players. There are always way to get around accomodation issues.
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 11, 2019 3:02:36 GMT -5
Nothing the FIVB and IOC can't fix if they put their minds to it. Accommodation sounds like a poor excuse for limiting it to 12 anyway. If IOC allows volleyball to have 2 extra players in each team....all other sports will want the same. Soccer squad rules for the World Cup: Eeach team had to name a preliminary squad of 35 players. From the preliminary squad, the team had to name a final squad of 23 players ( three of whom must be goalkeepers). Players in the final squad may be replaced for serious injury up to 24 hours prior to kickoff of the team's first match and such replacements do not need to have been named in the preliminary squad. Rules for the Olympics: Each team had to submit a squad of 18 players, two of whom had to be goalkeepers. Each team might also have a list of four alternate players, who might replace any player in the squad in case of injury during the tournament.[16] In the WC they can have 23 players...In the OG only 18. No, not really, different sports have different requirements and conditions, it is not automatic that just because volleyball get an extra 2 players, all other sports will want the same.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 11, 2019 8:57:16 GMT -5
And why would it be bad? 12 seems like an artificial number. It's a big deal because availability of space for athletes in the Olympic Village is limited and already scarce. No it's not. And if it were, the programs have plenty of money for hotels.
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Post by ericleo on Jan 11, 2019 9:28:13 GMT -5
So, Jordyn Poulter has signed with Italian Serie A1 team Chieri. I am glad to see her moving forward. This is gonna make her more competitive in the already fierce setter competition in the NT.
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Post by volleyguy on Jan 11, 2019 9:53:44 GMT -5
It's a big deal because availability of space for athletes in the Olympic Village is limited and already scarce. No it's not. And if it were, the programs have plenty of money for hotels. That seems like an obvious answer, but it's just as likely, if not more, for people to approach the issue from the perspective of "we can't have unlimited participation" than "we can take care of a few more." Some participants choose to arrange their own accommodations, but the host nation is otherwise responsible for the comfort and security of the participants. It's not just a matter of them saying, we'll find you a hotel to stay in.
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