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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 17:56:01 GMT -5
Where did you hear this rumor? That was reported by a fairly reputable poster over on one of the Stanford threads. To keep y'all from salivating TOO much, KP had a meniscus injury - from sand playing - which was arthroscopically operated upon (quite successfully). Post-surgery she became a (consecutively) 2x NPOY. Being that she IS NOT a machine, she is taking it easy! ToddyJ - PS: if she Is Not doin' sand vb (her 1st love), she sure-as-sh*t ain't doing WNT.
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Post by ToddyJ on Jan 17, 2019 17:57:13 GMT -5
Have you watched Lloyd since her shoulder injury? Have you watched Carlini in Italy this season? Carlini does nothing but set Egonu every ball.. Did you watch what she did with Egonu in the game against Scandicci?... Egonu got around 80 sets...while M.B.H got like 25 and everyone else 10 or less. Novara is in first place, but they are struggling more than they should. Carlini is just a OK setter, there`s simply nothing special about her, and she makes no difference whatsoever. Whenever she plays with the bench players they can`t win a set not even against club Italia, so they must bring in all the starters. If she was a difference maker Novara would win when Carlini plays with the bench. But that is not the case. I wrote last season that Carlini would not be at VNL and even less in the WCH....and I`m saying this right now already...She won`t be in Tokyo. If she will be the starting setter they will even struggle to get out of Pool Play. You comment as if she will make ZERO developing strides in the coming years. She is young....she will do a ton of maturing. We also don't know what pressure she is under from the coaching staff to set all of those balls Egonu's way. When she is with the NT she moves the ball around. I think she does the most consistent job of any setter in the gym when we are IN SYSTEM. Every setter in the gym struggles to put up a decent ball OOS. They all have room to improve in that arena but when you have the caliber of receivers that we do....it's easy to get comfy with in system play. Hell....most setters do bad at OOS sets except for teams who play out of system a ton (Serbia, Russia). I think she and Micha could lead this team to a medal in Tokyo. It may not be a gold medal...but they certainly could achieve gold come 2024.
Just my thoughts. I mean no offense. Just a dissenting opinion. :-)
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Post by ToddyJ on Jan 17, 2019 18:00:33 GMT -5
That was reported by a fairly reputable poster over on one of the Stanford threads. To keep y'all from salivating TOO much, KP had a meniscus injury - from sand playing - which was arthroscopically operated upon (quite successfully). Post-surgery she became a (consecutively) 2x NPOY. Being that she IS NOT a machine, she is taking it easy! ToddyJ - PS: if she Is Not doin' sand vb (her 1st love), she sure-as-sh*t ain't doing WNT. Ya'll seem to follow her and know her tendencies better than most. I trust your judgment. I only mean that IF she was going to join the NT she will need to do it soon. :-) I'm not even sure she would do well with the low/fast system USA runs. She is quite the physical player.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 18:23:18 GMT -5
Carlini does nothing but set Egonu every ball.. Did you watch what she did with Egonu in the game against Scandicci?... Egonu got around 80 sets...while M.B.H got like 25 and everyone else 10 or less. Novara is in first place, but they are struggling more than they should. Carlini is just a OK setter, there`s simply nothing special about her, and she makes no difference whatsoever. Whenever she plays with the bench players they can`t win a set not even against club Italia, so they must bring in all the starters. If she was a difference maker Novara would win when Carlini plays with the bench. But that is not the case. I wrote last season that Carlini would not be at VNL and even less in the WCH....and I`m saying this right now already...She won`t be in Tokyo. If she will be the starting setter they will even struggle to get out of Pool Play. You comment as if she will make ZERO developing strides in the coming years. She is young....she will do a ton of maturing. We also don't know what pressure she is under from the coaching staff to set all of those balls Egonu's way. When she is with the NT she moves the ball around. I think she does the most consistent job of any setter in the gym when we are IN SYSTEM. Every setter in the gym struggles to put up a decent ball OOS. They all have room to improve in that arena but when you have the caliber of receivers that we do....it's easy to get comfy with in system play. Hell....most setters do bad at OOS sets except for teams who play out of system a ton (Serbia, Russia). I think she and Micha could lead this team to a medal in Tokyo. It may not be a gold medal...but they certainly could achieve gold come 2024.
Just my thoughts. I mean no offense. Just a dissenting opinion. :-)
She is young?? Blah Blah Blah...Malinov, Orro, Cambi, Cansu r all same age or younger actually.
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Post by ToddyJ on Jan 17, 2019 18:50:29 GMT -5
Yes. Those you listed are all young or younger than her. The USNT doesn't recruit players that young for the senior national team. You know this. They only start inviting them to train once they are done with college and in most cases have gone through the grind of a pro season or two.
So yes....she is young for a member of the USNT.
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 17, 2019 23:12:45 GMT -5
Plummer is not playing beach for Stanford this spring to focus on indoor, maybe she has plans on joining the nt this summer ?.? Where did you hear this rumor? Plummer is not on the beach roster this season to focus on indoor. She will not be playing beach for Stanford university in 2019. I then suggested that MAYBE she wants to take the opportunity she got last year. No rumors !!
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 17, 2019 23:17:59 GMT -5
Carlini is a fanstastic college setter. However a lot of things that flew in college for her don’t now. She is not as effective serving as Lloyd and Hancock, she is taller than Lloyd yet still a weaker blocker. 90% of balls she jump sets she take off of one foot which is such a common college trend but you don’t see as much in international. Out of system, yes off of one foot is common, but carlini is doing this on perfectly passed balls. If she was the best like some of you are claiming, she wouldn’t be third string in the USA gym right now. I think poulter is gonna move in on carlini and Hancock’s spot and take that 2nd string in time, she may pass Lloyd as well.
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Post by ericleo on Jan 18, 2019 11:46:28 GMT -5
Carlini is young not in terms of her age, but in terms of her experience. This is only typical for USA players. Hancock has four years of professional experience and this is Carlini's second.
Evaluating based on their current capability, I would say it again, none of the current three setters is good enough for USAWNT. I am not Karch, so I don't know who he is gonna pick for 2019 or Tokyo. But devoting more time to the younger players is what I think necessary and beneficial for the future. This is also what I think that he should've done in 2018 but he did not. At least during the prelim rounds of VNL, he can let the veterans rest more. With so many tournaments and matches coming in 2019, maybe he will change his strategy?
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Post by Hawk Attack on Jan 18, 2019 14:01:15 GMT -5
Potentially unpopular opinion: I don’t think the USWNT in its current system is going to produce any setter significantly better than what we’ve already got. I think Poulter is going to be a great addition to our little cache of three, but she will not be consistently better.
It’ll just come down to which two of the four are clicking at the right time in 2020, and I think it’d be foolish to count any of them out now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 14:08:35 GMT -5
Have you watched Lloyd since her shoulder injury? Have you watched Carlini in Italy this season? Carlini does nothing but set Egonu every ball.. Did you watch what she did with Egonu in the game against Scandicci?... Egonu got around 80 sets...while M.B.H got like 25 and everyone else 10 or less. Setting Egonu early and often seems like a pretty decent strategy to me.
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Post by ericleo on Jan 18, 2019 18:49:56 GMT -5
Have you watched Lloyd since her shoulder injury? Have you watched Carlini in Italy this season? Carlini does nothing but set Egonu every ball.. Did you watch what she did with Egonu in the game against Scandicci?... Egonu got around 80 sets...while M.B.H got like 25 and everyone else 10 or less. Just a small correction: in that match, Veljkovic had 6 kills in 12 attempts, Chirichella had 6 kills in 14 attempts, Piccinini had 4 kills in 14 attempts, and Plak was not the main player so she only got 7 sets and 2 kills. On the other side of the net, the players with the least sets are: Adenizia had 2 kills in 8 attempts, and Stevanovic had 7 kills in 13 attempts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 0:35:13 GMT -5
Have you watched Lloyd since her shoulder injury? Have you watched Carlini in Italy this season? Carlini does nothing but set Egonu every ball.. Did you watch what she did with Egonu in the game against Scandicci?... Egonu got around 80 sets...while M.B.H got like 25 and everyone else 10 or less. Haak got 68 of Scandicci's 150 swings too. She had 33 kills. Was that also poor distribution from Malinov? Carlini also set her middles more than Malinov did in that match too. Adenizia had only 8 swings in a five-set match.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 0:37:25 GMT -5
Have you watched Lloyd since her shoulder injury? Have you watched Carlini in Italy this season? I wrote last season that Carlini would not be at VNL and even less in the WCH... She literally rolled her ankle a week before the event started. She wasn't even fully healthy or mobile during the Pan Am Cup. This anti-Carlini crusade is really exhausting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 0:45:53 GMT -5
Lowe hit .156 in her first match with Imoco, in case y'all missed it. 11-6-32. Just FYI.
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Post by Cmd12 on Jan 19, 2019 0:49:52 GMT -5
Meanwhile; Destinee has gotten 2 Viva la volei awards and scored 30 points against sao caetano
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