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Post by JB Southpaw on May 8, 2019 7:32:10 GMT -5
I would be shocked if April Ross and Alix klineman didn't qualify. By the end of all this all the teams will have played the same amount of qualifying tournaments. To get a better idea of where the teams are currently at I would filter the average points per tournament. You can sort by average points per tournament in my list: 12ndr.at/olympic-ranking-womenThief.
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Post by acrossthepond on May 9, 2019 2:06:25 GMT -5
Not quite sure if you are being serious or not, but my list is always based on live data. So no need to calculate it every time - you can just filter for a nation if you want to.
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Post by socalplayer on May 9, 2019 14:15:15 GMT -5
Also why would it be hard to tell how Claes, Klineman and Summer would block against similar competition? We see them play teams at this level all the time. Both on the AVP and in early rounds of other tournaments. for the simple reason that they haven’t played lately. If we were going off how people played last season, I would still be arguing that Kerri was struggling hitting. Kerri made her own bed and is now dealing with it. However, I think we can both agree that she’s not going to make Tokyo with Brooke as her partner. I would NEVER count out Kerri. It’s a big mistake. HUGE
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Post by goldengirlsx3 on May 9, 2019 18:59:35 GMT -5
for the simple reason that they haven’t played lately. If we were going off how people played last season, I would still be arguing that Kerri was struggling hitting. Kerri made her own bed and is now dealing with it. However, I think we can both agree that she’s not going to make Tokyo with Brooke as her partner. I would NEVER count out Kerri. It’s a big mistake. HUGE I would never count KW out either, however no matter if they they get a spot or fall short, I am proud of her & Brooke. They are playing their hearts out and playing with passion that they both have for this game. She has shown why she is still one of the top female players in the world. I’m just happy that I get to watch Kerri play another however long!!! Greatness at its finest!! Love her or hate her.
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Post by ShaneM2005 on May 10, 2019 8:35:17 GMT -5
Does anyone think there's a chance that Kerri could still partner up with someone else? Specifically if some of the other US teams don't get the results they're anticipating in the coming tourneys.
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Post by guest2 on May 10, 2019 9:00:17 GMT -5
Does anyone think there's a chance that Kerri could still partner up with someone else? Specifically if some of the other US teams don't get the results they're anticipating in the coming tourneys. I think its almost certain. They are doing really well now but even with Kerri in 2016 form - probably never reaches 2008 form again - they arent winning. An injury to Alix, Summer or Kelly a particularly convincing argument from Betsi. Brooke has provided a great opportunity for Kerri to show the world she can still be great, but its hard to imagine Kerri slowly failing to qualify and not at least taking a shot with someone else
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Post by ajm on May 10, 2019 11:01:43 GMT -5
Does anyone think there's a chance that Kerri could still partner up with someone else? Specifically if some of the other US teams don't get the results they're anticipating in the coming tourneys. I think its almost certain. They are doing really well now but even with Kerri in 2016 form - probably never reaches 2008 form again - they arent winning. An injury to Alix, Summer or Kelly a particularly convincing argument from Betsi. Brooke has provided a great opportunity for Kerri to show the world she can still be great, but its hard to imagine Kerri slowly failing to qualify and not at least taking a shot with someone else I would guess that after the upcoming May 4 Star tournaments (Itapema, Jinjiang, Ostrava), that would pretty much be the last opportunity to reassess partnerships in the current Olympic cycle. You'd still have 6-7 events remaining in 2019 and assuming 6-7 events in early 2020 to get to 12 qualifying events. But if Kerri/Brooke medal in one of these events, that would probably be enough to convince them to stick together.
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Post by goldengirlsx3 on May 10, 2019 12:07:02 GMT -5
Does anyone think there's a chance that Kerri could still partner up with someone else? Specifically if some of the other US teams don't get the results they're anticipating in the coming tourneys. I’m gonna say not a chance!! Ride or die with Brooke..
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Post by tamz on May 10, 2019 12:09:48 GMT -5
There’s two ways of looking at it.
If they continue to be battling through CQ each time, that’s an extra 3 matches minimum before even getting to the MD, with each being a do or die match. At one point, Kerri will realize it’s going nowhere and decide to change partners. Then that will surely cause dominoes to start falling.
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Post by guest2 on May 10, 2019 12:14:33 GMT -5
Does anyone think there's a chance that Kerri could still partner up with someone else? Specifically if some of the other US teams don't get the results they're anticipating in the coming tourneys. I’m gonna say not a chance!! Ride or die with Brooke.. Is Kerri's goal just to make the Olympics or is it her goal to do something. If 1 then maybe she and Brooke stick it out, but I think Kerri believes she can still win and I cant see her believing she can do that with Brooke
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Post by goldengirlsx3 on May 10, 2019 12:26:05 GMT -5
I’m gonna say not a chance!! Ride or die with Brooke.. Is Kerri's goal just to make the Olympics or is it her goal to do something. If 1 then maybe she and Brooke stick it out, but I think Kerri believes she can still win and I cant see her believing she can do that with Brooke [b Well, if what I’m hearing is that Everyone she asked turned her down, that means one of two things. 1. They are happy with their current situation or 2. They believe KW is washed up and can’t get it done anymore. Sara Hughes should have kept her door open with Kerri. Slammed it in her face. Kerri won’t be an option for Sara when she needs a plan B.
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Post by ajm on May 10, 2019 14:39:54 GMT -5
Is Kerri's goal just to make the Olympics or is it her goal to do something. If 1 then maybe she and Brooke stick it out, but I think Kerri believes she can still win and I cant see her believing she can do that with Brooke [b Well, if what I’m hearing is that Everyone she asked turned her down, that means one of two things. 1. They are happy with their current situation or 2. They believe KW is washed up and can’t get it done anymore. Sara Hughes should have kept her door open with Kerri. Slammed it in her face. Kerri won’t be an option for Sara when she needs a plan B. That was at least six months ago and more like a year ago with Sara. There’s good reason to believe that #1 and #2 above are no longer true today. And remember, it wasn’t that long ago that Kerri was 100% committed with Nicole Branagh through 2020. Things can change.
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Post by dunninla on May 10, 2019 15:31:28 GMT -5
Sponcil and KW? Seems the equal or possibly better than Hughes even now, with more upside. Hughes might be better at receiving serve, but only b/c Sponcil had very little opportunity to hone that skill at UCLA where nobody ever served her. KW would be good training for Sponcil before pairing with Klineman for 2024 or 2028.
Someone commented above (or in another thread, can't remember) that Sponcil hasn't proven she can side out against elite opponents. That wasn't the case in her first tournament with Fendrick, where she was playing instinctively and digging and siding out to remind me of Taylor Crabb. if she has gone backward a little, and I don't know if that is the case, that is the normal learning rookie curve of going from instinctive to mechanical (for learning purposes), before coming out the other side with a better instinctive. And from what I've seen of Claes, any good finishes on FIVB would be owing more to Sponcil than Claes.
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Post by goldengirlsx3 on May 10, 2019 16:06:36 GMT -5
[b Well, if what I’m hearing is that Everyone she asked turned her down, that means one of two things. 1. They are happy with their current situation or 2. They believe KW is washed up and can’t get it done anymore. Sara Hughes should have kept her door open with Kerri. Slammed it in her face. Kerri won’t be an option for Sara when she needs a plan B. That was at least six months ago and more like a year ago with Sara. There’s good reason to believe that #1 and #2 above are no longer true today. And remember, it wasn’t that long ago that Kerri was 100% committed with Nicole Branagh through 2020. Things can change. I also was one to believe that KW was 100% committed to Nicole, but after the last match they played together when They blew like a 4 point lead and the last few points hit into the net by Nicole I knew it was over. Not sure NB was mentally strong enough to be Kerri’s partner. Brooke seems to keep Kerri very evenly balanced. Whether they can get on the podium in 4 or 5 star events, I’m not sure.
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Post by goldengirlsx3 on May 10, 2019 16:11:06 GMT -5
[b Well, if what I’m hearing is that Everyone she asked turned her down, that means one of two things. 1. They are happy with their current situation or 2. They believe KW is washed up and can’t get it done anymore. Sara Hughes should have kept her door open with Kerri. Slammed it in her face. Kerri won’t be an option for Sara when she needs a plan B. That was at least six months ago and more like a year ago with Sara. There’s good reason to believe that #1 and #2 above are no longer true today. And remember, it wasn’t that long ago that Kerri was 100% committed with Nicole Branagh through 2020. Things can change. I also don’t think Kerri would play with Hughes at this point. You get turned down once, you usually don’t get another shot. Hopefully Summer is ok anyway. I hope the back issues get resolved quickly and missing tournaments won’t be an issue.
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