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Post by guest2 on Mar 26, 2019 23:11:29 GMT -5
Great year and opportunity for the AVP, with expanded fields and Olympic qualifying fielding a good majority of elite teams, it's a great opportunity for young guys to get points and become established. Who breaks through? Is this the year we finally see a young no name team come through the qualifier and explode in the main draw teams. Anybody with grassroots knowledge of the LA beaches know of any young teenyboppers who might make some interesting noise this year? I for one am really hoping we can get a major focus of talking AVP around here instead of FIVB. I get that the FIVB product is a superior product, but there's opportunity for continued growth with the AVP game and this year they really need to make their entire player pool known instead of just the usual suspects. For a long time I have been starved of watching the next great player burst onto the scene at a young age and grow to be the best. In the 90s it was Kent Steffes for me. In the 2000s it was Rosie, mainly with his backstory and explosive ability. For a while I was thinking it was Taylor Crabb and he is a good one, but his development in legacy has ceiling off a bit and I think it's mostly because of Gibb at the highest level unfortunately. Field is next breakthrough player as I predicted years ago now, he's Steffes 2.0, not in results yet but probably more physicality gifted. Kent Steffes? Did you just compare Troy Field to Kent Steffes? Is there some other Kent Steffes I don't know about other than maybe the GOAT one?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 23:13:15 GMT -5
Field is next breakthrough player as I predicted years ago now, he's Steffes 2.0, not in results yet but probably more physicality gifted. Kent Steffes? Did you just compare Troy Field to Kent Steffes? Is there some other Kent Steffes I don't know about other than maybe the GOAT one? yeah thats pretty bad. troy has maybe beaten 2 main draw teams ever?
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Post by 405LAX on Mar 27, 2019 0:12:22 GMT -5
Kent Steffes? Did you just compare Troy Field to Kent Steffes? Is there some other Kent Steffes I don't know about other than maybe the GOAT one? yeah thats pretty bad. troy has maybe beaten 2 main draw teams ever? Physically the comparison is dead on.
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Post by 405LAX on Mar 27, 2019 0:15:26 GMT -5
And that was clearly the point if you read part about wins/accomplishments.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 0:49:26 GMT -5
jason ring is a better comparison
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Post by balltime on Mar 27, 2019 5:00:42 GMT -5
I agree with the Jason Ring comparison, but a better one might be Vitor. Even though Vitor is probably a bit better than Troy will ever be.
Troy's greatness will definitely eclipse on the AVP, probably picking up a few wins with whatever slightly older mediocre blocker of the current generation who decides to stick with playing volleyball. Unfortunately, I think that nothing much will ever happen for Troy unless he switches to defense.
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Post by wisco on Mar 27, 2019 8:31:46 GMT -5
Agreed everyone loves Troy's athleticism and seems like good guy but does anyone think he is great blocker? I really don't think he has elite beach volleyball skill other then jumping. We don't know if he can pass/set/sideout at high level when it counts. I don't see any young stars that have a chance to do anything major on AVP/FIVB. I hope that changes this year.
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Post by haze on Mar 28, 2019 22:54:08 GMT -5
I don't understand the physical comparison between Steffes and Fields. Steffes wasn't uber explosive in a way that other players weren't. He was just a really f'n great volleyball player at a really young age who had a great all around game, and he had a competitive mindset and most important a business approach that really separated him from everyone else at a young age. Liola was physically gifted. I could have sworn I watched that dude warm up one game by standing at the net and jumping straight up and touching around the top of the antenna 10 times in a row. He did it like it was nothing.
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Post by guest2 on Mar 29, 2019 7:42:34 GMT -5
I don't understand the physical comparison between Steffes and Fields. Steffes wasn't uber explosive in a way that other players weren't. He was just a really f'n great volleyball player at a really young age who had a great all around game, and he had a competitive mindset and most important a business approach that really separated him from everyone else at a young age. Liola was physically gifted. I could have sworn I watched that dude warm up one game by standing at the net and jumping straight up and touching around the top of the antenna 10 times in a row. He did it like it was nothing. Steffes wasn't quite Loiola but he was an incredible athlete in addition to the stuff you said. During the time he played only Loiola, Rego, and maybe Karch for 1 or 2 seasons were better athletes. Kent seemed somewhat less explosive than he was because his style, at his peak, was based around hitting a lot of smart deep shots at 75%-80% swings. Early in his career when he was more prone to try to hit more showy angles as hard as he could his athletic superiority was more apparent Field is probably a better jumper but Kent was a better all around athlete in terms of speed, quickness, movement fluidity etc.
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Post by haze on Mar 29, 2019 11:47:47 GMT -5
I don't understand the physical comparison between Steffes and Fields. Steffes wasn't uber explosive in a way that other players weren't. He was just a really f'n great volleyball player at a really young age who had a great all around game, and he had a competitive mindset and most important a business approach that really separated him from everyone else at a young age. Liola was physically gifted. I could have sworn I watched that dude warm up one game by standing at the net and jumping straight up and touching around the top of the antenna 10 times in a row. He did it like it was nothing. Kent seemed somewhat less explosive than he was because his style, at his peak, was based around hitting a lot of smart deep shots at 75%-80% swings. Early in his career when he was more prone to try to hit more showy angles as hard as he could his athletic superiority was more apparent Dude could have had an incredibly long career on his shoulder anyways playing like that. I did love how he utilized the entire court every time when he attacked.
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Post by guest2 on Mar 29, 2019 12:40:51 GMT -5
Kent seemed somewhat less explosive than he was because his style, at his peak, was based around hitting a lot of smart deep shots at 75%-80% swings. Early in his career when he was more prone to try to hit more showy angles as hard as he could his athletic superiority was more apparent Dude could have had an incredibly long career on his shoulder anyways playing like that. I did love how he utilized the entire court every time when he attacked. Two greatest bvb what ifs ever. What if karch/sinjin never split and what if Kent hadn't retired
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Post by JB Southpaw on Mar 29, 2019 13:11:17 GMT -5
Dude could have had an incredibly long career on his shoulder anyways playing like that. I did love how he utilized the entire court every time when he attacked. Two greatest bvb what ifs ever. What if karch/sinjin never split and what if Kent hadn't retired Def. agree with the Kent question. The long run, after 10 years. I'm not sure Karch and Sinjin would be as good as Randy/Sijin My other what if is Lambo..
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Post by guest2 on Mar 29, 2019 13:16:41 GMT -5
Two greatest bvb what ifs ever. What if karch/sinjin never split and what if Kent hadn't retired Def. agree with the Kent question. The long run, after 10 years. I'm not sure Karch and Sinjin would be as good as Randy/Sijin My other what if is Lambo.. Lambo is a great one. Dalhausser/Lambert is the EY/Davis of men's teams Karch/Sinjin wouldnt have been as good long term, but if Karch doesnt go to the national team he and Sinjin definitely play together for a few more years, Hov and Randy probably team up or Randy/Dodd, probably eventually Randy/Karch v Sinjin/Hov with Steffes/Mike etc. so many ways that could have ended up
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Post by 405LAX on Apr 2, 2019 0:45:29 GMT -5
Hearing Beranek/Toppel, who must have committed to this entire season, definitely Huntington.
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Post by balltime on Apr 2, 2019 2:32:12 GMT -5
While not a coup for beranek, a really good pick up of a underrated blocker
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