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Post by ajm on Apr 23, 2019 19:11:45 GMT -5
Could be 1 of 2 sides to this. He's a monster scumbag if all this is true. She is a monster scumbag if none of this is true. Seems like the most likely possibility is that at least some of this is true.
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Post by ts89yahoo on Apr 23, 2019 20:29:57 GMT -5
Could be 1 of 2 sides to this. He's a monster scumbag if all this is true. She is a monster scumbag if none of this is true. Seems like the most likely possibility is that at least some of this is true. What makes you say that?
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Post by beachking on Apr 23, 2019 21:57:14 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents..... If he is a monster than you get the monster off the streets ASAP by calling the cops or notifying someone as soon (or shortly thereafter) as it happens. 3 years later after the accused lands his biggest payday while you yourself have become recently unemployed makes things look very suspect.
Not defending or blaming but timing is terrible in my opinion. Lawsuit over charges ever filed = concerning
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Post by ajm on Apr 23, 2019 22:29:33 GMT -5
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Post by ajm on Apr 23, 2019 22:49:22 GMT -5
Seems like the most likely possibility is that at least some of this is true. What makes you say that? False accusation rates are generally less than 10%.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 23:12:35 GMT -5
False accusation rates are generally less than 10%. what is the rate when the man is a millionaire?
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Post by guest2 on Apr 24, 2019 0:58:22 GMT -5
False accusation rates are generally less than 10%. That figure comes from a compilation of studies and is commonly cited, but the studies involved are very narrow and not generally applicable. For example many are 30-40 years old (and preceded the widespread media coverage of sex crimes), from different countries (and false accusations vary by culture etc.). There is also no universal definition of "false accusations" across the studies so some are based on police doubts whereas others require absolute concrete proof of falseness. No serious researcher would rely on the numbers contained therein, but that compilation if there was anything else. False accusation rates may be much higher (I seriously doubt it) or much lower (I think this is probably the case) than 10% but no one really knows and there is very little good research on it. I think we should be very careful discussing this and be conscious of our personal prejudices. I had a ton of sympathy for Luke over the way the Lakers treated him and I hate Kelli as a media personality. But neither of those things gives me any idea of who is telling the truth here. (I'm inclined to believe her but thats just an uninformed opinion) Awful people have been falsely accused and some of the most sympathetic people ever (Cosby was probably the most widely liked man in America at one point) have turned out to be rapists. We dont really know these people certainly not well enough to judge a situation like this
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 1:02:49 GMT -5
I understand that.....and every person and every case is different. But I find interesting that some people are afraid to go to the police right after to talk with like 1 or 2 people in private in a safe place.....but years later they are not afraid to talk in a press conference in front of the whole world?!!!!!!!!!...
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Post by beachking on Apr 24, 2019 1:42:48 GMT -5
False accusation rates are generally less than 10%. what is the rate when the man is a millionaire? and the accuser is unemployed?
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Post by guest2 on Apr 24, 2019 3:51:38 GMT -5
I understand that.....and every person and every case is different. But I find interesting that some people are afraid to go to the police right after to talk with like 1 or 2 people in private in a safe place.....but years later they are not afraid to talk in a press conference in front of the whole world?!!!!!!!!!... What would you expect to get from police in that scenario? There wouldn't be any physical evidence, its a he said/she said so very little chance of a conviction and it would destroy her career, or at a minimum subject her to a ton of abuse etc. (as mentioned the sports space, where she works, is not a forgiving environment for women with these kinds of claims). A civil suit offers much greater chance for recovery and now that Walton is no longer a player on the LA Sports scene perhaps the impact on her life/career will be lessened? Also the ability to more comfortably talk about things as time passes is not exactly a phenomena that has never been observed in human history. Its common
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Post by moderndaycoach on Apr 24, 2019 8:26:53 GMT -5
I don't know who is lying either, I can understand and sympathize the shock of realizing what should be a great promotion in your career turning horrid in a blink of an eye at the same time not knowing what to do in fear you would lose something you worked so hard for. What is scary about this is the timing of everything she is doing paints a picture for those against her that would show as opportunistic in what some may consider a very low point in her career with how disliked and how poor of a job she does on the amazon broadcast. It is hard because in another article about her recently she is quoted as such, "“I can kind of do it blindly sometimes because I know everyone,” she said. “I grew up with a lot of these players; a lot of them we played club indoor against, or in college." and it shows that she puts in minimal effort to prep almost making it seem as if she does not care. - www.pe.com/2018/08/18/alexander-with-avp-coverage-and-a-podcast-kelli-tennant-is-busy/There has to be more information to this, had they dated in the past, had they been romantic or sexual in the past, had they been sexual even after Walton was married that gave him the idea she would want to hook up again especially if that was the norm of just going up to his room to do that? About 5 years ago my buddy who was married and just had a newborn told our friends he had been cheating on his wife for about 2-3 years regularly with an ex from college that we all knew, but did not know how to cut it off now that he had a kid and he knew what he was doing was wrong. Although incredibly angry at him we gave the best advice we could and the ex freaked out, threatened to expose him and everything else he deserved, but for some reason she did none of that and went to the police claiming he had raped her and she had vulgar "sext" messages that would help paint that picture. In the end the truth came out due to her roommate and our friends speaking to police, but she lost it and went with the worst thing she could think of to get back at him for trying to cut it off. Just a terrible situation all around, unfortunately she probably won't have a job with a major network again any time soon and he will continue to coach in the NBA (even if fired now at some point will be back) as she is a woman trying to get her career back and he is the son of a legend, former player, and a last name that will cement him in that NBA fraternity.
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Post by johnbar on Apr 24, 2019 12:26:52 GMT -5
Of course we don't know the full truth yet. But to assume the victim/accuser is lying and/or just out to get something leads to Larry-Nassar-type situations. Different people react to trauma differently, and questioning why Ms. Tennant came forward now is not helpful. Putting oneself through this public spectacle is never easy, and not really a way to make a "fast buck". Let's let it play-out in court.
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Post by heystvn on Apr 24, 2019 12:40:19 GMT -5
what is the rate when the man is a millionaire? and the accuser is unemployed? What makes you think she's unemployed? Just because she doesn't work in broadcasting any longer doesn't mean she's not working.
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Post by haze on Apr 24, 2019 13:57:01 GMT -5
I'm going to just hypothesize here in saying the truth is probably somewhere in the middle of both sides. He probably came on a little too aggressively then what his argument will be, and she probably lead him on a little too easily then what her argument is saying.
The fact that she waited so long to report this is a little interesting but shouldn't be suspicious. The fact that she continued to co-mingle with him at events, and work with him after the incident is a little suspicious, imho.
I wouldn't be shocked if something did happen and he was a little aggressive prodding her afterwards. Also, the notion that he was catcalling her and grunting like an animal at public events around professional people in his line of work is a little absurd imho.
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Post by 405LAX on Apr 24, 2019 14:07:33 GMT -5
Apologies if this has been discussed but could the fact she was told she won't be coming back to Amazon's coverage also contributed to her timing? No career to lose so to say? (Not sure they've announced that but timing is suspicious)
Edit: Please focus on this fact versus some "how dare you" response which does no one any good. Questions must be asked of both sides.
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