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Post by beachking on Apr 24, 2019 14:26:05 GMT -5
and the accuser is unemployed? What makes you think she's unemployed? Just because she doesn't work in broadcasting any longer doesn't mean she's not working. You're right I should have said no longer employed as a broadcaster. Not sure if that is by choice or not though. I have no official word on whether she will be back on Amazon broadcast, but if I had to bet I would put a lot on "not asked back"
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Post by 405LAX on Apr 24, 2019 14:54:12 GMT -5
What makes you think she's unemployed? Just because she doesn't work in broadcasting any longer doesn't mean she's not working. You're right I should have said no longer employed as a broadcaster. Not sure if that is by choice or not though. I have no official word on whether she will be back on Amazon broadcast, but if I had to bet I would put a lot on "not asked back" I agree, she wouldn't bring this forward now if AP was having her back. I know that sounds terrible but I do not think it's coincidental in any way. Hope I'm wrong about that.
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Post by ajm on Apr 24, 2019 15:01:17 GMT -5
What makes you think she's unemployed? Just because she doesn't work in broadcasting any longer doesn't mean she's not working. You're right I should have said no longer employed as a broadcaster. Not sure if that is by choice or not though. I have no official word on whether she will be back on Amazon broadcast, but if I had to bet I would put a lot on "not asked back" A little strange that the AVP would give her that Instagram takeover thing a few weeks ago if she were not being asked back. But she also seems to have been mostly focused on her podcast and other non-sports projects since last year. It’s possible she has left broadcasting on her own terms.
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Post by 405LAX on Apr 24, 2019 15:10:06 GMT -5
You're right I should have said no longer employed as a broadcaster. Not sure if that is by choice or not though. I have no official word on whether she will be back on Amazon broadcast, but if I had to bet I would put a lot on "not asked back" A little strange that the AVP would give her that Instagram takeover thing a few weeks ago if she were not being asked back. But she also seems to have been mostly focused on her podcast and other non-sports projects since last year. It’s possible she has left broadcasting on her own terms. I don't think anyone would leave that cake job on their own terms. Get paid to work few days every month? Can do whatever you want with all that off time. Only if she was hired by a regional sports network which conflicted with AVP's schedule could I see her leaving. Not likely that happened though as this complaint wouldn't be the way you want to start that gig.
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Post by 405LAX on Apr 24, 2019 15:11:30 GMT -5
Additionally, the AVP might have allowed her to do their IG page but that doesn't mean Amazon can't still eliminate her, two separate entities.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Apr 24, 2019 15:17:20 GMT -5
So lets assume she is potentially still part time still with Amazon/AVP and they do not get paid year round, in the article I re-posted from another thread earlier it said she was excited to have 10,000 downloads over a couple months which does not seem to warrant enough traffic to consider that full time - there is an update to that article but originally it was from a year ago. Does anyone know if her podcast is owned by a media or podcast network or if she has any major sponsors?
Another article talking about the lawsuit referenced how she had a pretty popular social media following, she has 38,300 followers on her personal Instagram, her podcast has 2,309, and her twitter has 20,700. None of these accounts has even near the typical 50k follower minimum to support paid content, ads, or swipe ups to bring her more personal revenue. I mean there are college girls/insta models that get 38k likes on a single picture when they post, I would love to see the metrics of her followers by date to see if most of them came from her time with Time Warner and Spectrum being on TV with the Dodgers and Lakers while also getting a small AVP crowd bump.
Like I alluded to earlier, and haze also brought up, I would not be shocked in the least if it comes out that they had been romantic or sexual in the past and she decided it was done while Walton did not feel that way and was acting as if it was normal behavior for them. Surely that is a questions that will come out in a deposition.
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Post by 405LAX on Apr 24, 2019 15:20:03 GMT -5
So lets assume she is potentially still part time still with Amazon/AVP and they do not get paid year round, in the article I re-posted from another thread earlier it said she was excited to have 10,000 downloads over a couple months which does not seem to warrant enough traffic to consider that full time - there is an update to that article but originally it was from a year ago. Does anyone know if her podcast is owned by a media or podcast network or if she has any major sponsors? Another article talking about the lawsuit referenced how she had a pretty popular social media following, she has 38,300 followers on her personal Instagram, her podcast has 2,309, and her twitter has 20,700. None of these accounts has even near the typical 50k follower minimum to support paid content, ads, or swipe ups to bring her more personal revenue. I mean there are college girls/insta models that get 38k likes on a single picture when they post, I would love to see the metrics of her followers by date to see if most of them came from her time with Time Warner and Spectrum being on TV with the Dodgers and Lakers while also getting a small AVP crowd bump. Like I alluded to earlier, and haze also brought up, I would not be shocked in the least if it comes out that they had been romantic or sexual in the past and she decided it was done while Walton did not feel that way and was acting as if it was normal behavior for them. Surely that is a questions that will come out in a deposition. Based on his contributions to her book, could suggest they had more than a casual relationship.
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Post by ajm on Apr 24, 2019 15:43:47 GMT -5
Additionally, the AVP might have allowed her to do their IG page but that doesn't mean Amazon can't still eliminate her, two separate entities. I’d guess everyone on the production staff works for Echo Entertainment, and not Amazon directly. Just like the p1440 crew worked for Leonard Armato’s company and not for ESPN. Although I’m sure Amazon has plenty of input.
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Post by ajm on Apr 24, 2019 15:48:48 GMT -5
So lets assume she is potentially still part time still with Amazon/AVP and they do not get paid year round, in the article I re-posted from another thread earlier it said she was excited to have 10,000 downloads over a couple months which does not seem to warrant enough traffic to consider that full time - there is an update to that article but originally it was from a year ago. Does anyone know if her podcast is owned by a media or podcast network or if she has any major sponsors? Another article talking about the lawsuit referenced how she had a pretty popular social media following, she has 38,300 followers on her personal Instagram, her podcast has 2,309, and her twitter has 20,700. None of these accounts has even near the typical 50k follower minimum to support paid content, ads, or swipe ups to bring her more personal revenue. I mean there are college girls/insta models that get 38k likes on a single picture when they post, I would love to see the metrics of her followers by date to see if most of them came from her time with Time Warner and Spectrum being on TV with the Dodgers and Lakers while also getting a small AVP crowd bump. Like I alluded to earlier, and haze also brought up, I would not be shocked in the least if it comes out that they had been romantic or sexual in the past and she decided it was done while Walton did not feel that way and was acting as if it was normal behavior for them. Surely that is a questions that will come out in a deposition. Based on his contributions to her book, could suggest they had more than a casual relationship. If that’s true it’s not a great look for Luke, a married man with two kids. You think he’ll claim whatever happened was consensual?
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Post by ajm on Apr 24, 2019 15:57:39 GMT -5
A little strange that the AVP would give her that Instagram takeover thing a few weeks ago if she were not being asked back. But she also seems to have been mostly focused on her podcast and other non-sports projects since last year. It’s possible she has left broadcasting on her own terms. I don't think anyone would leave that cake job on their own terms. Get paid to work few days every month? Can do whatever you want with all that off time. Only if she was hired by a regional sports network which conflicted with AVP's schedule could I see her leaving. Not likely that happened though as this complaint wouldn't be the way you want to start that gig. Full time broadcasting may not have worked well with her health issues. Cam and Kevin both work indoor volleyball as well as other sports during the AVP off season. For whatever reason, Kelli either chose not to or didn’t have those opportunities. I agree it would be tough to do your job alongside so many people who know your alleged attacker. That’s probably one reason she didn’t report while she worked with the Lakers.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Apr 24, 2019 16:00:55 GMT -5
Based on his contributions to her book, could suggest they had more than a casual relationship. If that’s true it’s not a great look for Luke, a married man with two kids. You think he’ll claim whatever happened was consensual? This is exactly what I think will happen if they used to be even a little romantic or sexual, taking the embarrassment of infidelity to save face instead of paying out a multi million dollar out of court settlement and/or being know as a sexual assaulter is probably a better option for his household and career. If they were even a little bit involved as more than work friends, I would guarantee there are text messages, emails, and phone records that could prove it as well as hotel cameras and gps pings. Of course this is all hypothetical assuming they were involved as more than work friends.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Apr 24, 2019 16:03:53 GMT -5
I don't think anyone would leave that cake job on their own terms. Get paid to work few days every month? Can do whatever you want with all that off time. Only if she was hired by a regional sports network which conflicted with AVP's schedule could I see her leaving. Not likely that happened though as this complaint wouldn't be the way you want to start that gig. Full time broadcasting may not have worked well with her health issues. Cam and Kevin both work indoor volleyball as well as other sports during the AVP off season. For whatever reason, Kelli either chose not to or didn’t have those opportunities. I agree it would be tough to do your job alongside so many people who know your alleged attacker. That’s probably one reason she didn’t report while she worked with the Lakers. The other part of that is if Luke Walton really is that big of a scumbag she most likely won't be the only person that has had this experience, and because of the circles he runs in I would imagine if he really is this person than more than a few people know about it and actively choose to leave it alone as if it was just another NBA player with a side piece on the road. Assuming that is the case Kelli knew damn well that if she brought it up she could either cause a massive storm that would put her on leave from her job, or his circle of friends vouch for him and say she is crying wolf. Terrible situation to be in if true.
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Post by ajm on Apr 24, 2019 16:24:08 GMT -5
Full time broadcasting may not have worked well with her health issues. Cam and Kevin both work indoor volleyball as well as other sports during the AVP off season. For whatever reason, Kelli either chose not to or didn’t have those opportunities. I agree it would be tough to do your job alongside so many people who know your alleged attacker. That’s probably one reason she didn’t report while she worked with the Lakers. The other part of that is if Luke Walton really is that big of a scumbag she most likely won't be the only person that has had this experience, and because of the circles he runs in I would imagine if he really is this person than more than a few people know about it and actively choose to leave it alone as if it was just another NBA player with a side piece on the road. Assuming that is the case Kelli knew damn well that if she brought it up she could either cause a massive storm that would put her on leave from her job, or his circle of friends vouch for him and say she is crying wolf. Terrible situation to be in if true. There was a thread on Reddit that referenced some rumors of scummy behavior by Luke from long before this allegation was made public. I guess we’ll see if any of that comes to light. It may be better if he settles quickly before anything else becomes public.
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Post by bigfan on Apr 24, 2019 18:09:52 GMT -5
I think we should be very careful discussing this and be conscious of our personal prejudices. I had a ton of sympathy for Luke over the way the Lakers treated him and I hate Kelli as a media personality. But neither of those things gives me any idea of who is telling the truth here. I think it is safe to say that Kelli will never broadcast any type of volleyball ever again. No one will hire her.
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Post by fetchin on Apr 24, 2019 18:17:35 GMT -5
I think we should be very careful discussing this and be conscious of our personal prejudices. I had a ton of sympathy for Luke over the way the Lakers treated him and I hate Kelli as a media personality. But neither of those things gives me any idea of who is telling the truth here. I think it is safe to say that Kelli will never broadcast any type of volleyball ever again. No one will hire her. No offense to her but at least something positive has come out of this.
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