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Post by volleyguy on Mar 16, 2019 14:19:11 GMT -5
No way her legitimate salary was $500K. Haden left 2 years ago as AD and was paid 2.5 million dollars a year plus benefits. Heinel was in charge of all womens sports plus she was the liason of the athletic dept to the school admissions. She had the power and used to fire Mick Haley no questions asked by Swann. She was paid at least 500,000 per year plas 20,000 a month by Singer. The FEds do not play a round....................she will be seeing some jail time. She was not paid 500K by USC as her actual salary.
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Post by Mocha on Mar 16, 2019 14:20:36 GMT -5
If those 24 actual athletes can be identified, lawsuits will happen. If you can't get into USC as an athlete then you have bigger problems.
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Post by azvb on Mar 16, 2019 14:35:45 GMT -5
Aid those 24 actual athletes can be identified, lawsuits will happen. Did you see employees beholden to other people when you worked in college sports? Not really. Yes, I needed to keep the AD happy, and I got on really good terms with the financial aid staff, only because there was one lady who could make your life hell if she didn’t like you. The school didn’t offer scholarships (we had to fundraise for them) everyone was admitted, so the temptation to cheat wasn’t really there.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Mar 16, 2019 14:59:56 GMT -5
No way her legitimate salary was $500K. Haden left 2 years ago as AD and was paid 2.5 million dollars a year plus benefits. Heinel was in charge of all womens sports plus she was the liason of the athletic dept to the school admissions. She had the power and used to fire Mick Haley no questions asked by Swann. She was paid at least 500,000 per year plas 20,000 a month by Singer. The FEds do not play a round....................she will be seeing some jail time. Her salary at USC was nowhere near $500K.
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Post by azvb on Mar 16, 2019 16:09:24 GMT -5
As a point of reference
AD at ASU made $800,000
Highest executive AD I could find made $195,000
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 17:30:42 GMT -5
Her salary at USC was nowhere near $500K. Singer was paying $20,000 a month...................$240,000 a year. Cleartheclearinghouse....................her company................which used Galen Center for various events..................lets say she cleared $100,000 a year. USC salary at $160,000 a year maybe. Sounds reasonable. Dr. Christina Rivera, the Sr. Associate Athletic Director/SWA at UCLA earned $165,308 total compensation in 2017. ucannualwage.ucop.edu/wage/
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 16, 2019 17:37:39 GMT -5
If you can get into an elite university of course you should go. 99% of those admitted, actually did earn their way in despite what some people want to imagine right now, with an outlier scandal to hold up. You will meet an incredible bunch of people that will amaze you. Yes.
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Post by ironhammer on Mar 16, 2019 21:50:34 GMT -5
African countries don’t need a few Harvards as that is usually the problem. The idea that African countries need Americans, Europeans, or anyone else is wrong. They just need all those countries to stop stealing all their wealth so they can thrive themselves. People outside of Africa think that they can help make it better while they pillage from below. Instead how can the money be given to the African schools or partnerships made where they control the money and their own purse strings. But regarding the scandal, this has been going on for decades. It is no surprise the rich buy seats at schools. But as someone before stated. It is the bribery, money laundering and all pocketing that is corrupt. I think those kids should be immediately pulled out of the school. They do need Harvards. I am using that as a term for an institution of higher learning of Ivy League caliber. Can you name the great African education institutions? No. Because they don't really exist. If Africa is going to rise from its problems, the various countries and regions need strong academic centers. Actually Africa does have some notable institutions of higher learning, debatable whether they are of the same caliber as Harvard or Standard or Oxford or Cambridge in the West, but they do have distinguished faculty members and alumni. The University of Cape Town and the University of the Witwatersrand are both quite respected in Africa and globally, with Nobel laureates in their faculties. The problem is not just higher education, but overall governance in these African countries that is the issue. Endemic corruption, lack of accountability to the common people and personal enrichment at the expense of the country are common problems.
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 16, 2019 22:24:01 GMT -5
They do need Harvards. I am using that as a term for an institution of higher learning of Ivy League caliber. Can you name the great African education institutions? No. Because they don't really exist. If Africa is going to rise from its problems, the various countries and regions need strong academic centers. Actually Africa does have some notable institutions of higher learning, debatable whether they are of the same caliber as Harvard or Standard or Oxford or Cambridge in the West, but they do have distinguished faculty members and alumni. The University of Cape Town and the University of the Witwatersrand are both quite respected in Africa and globally, with Nobel laureates in their faculties. The problem is not just higher education, but overall governance in these African countries that is the issue. Endemic corruption, lack of accountability to the common people and personal enrichment at the expense of the country are common problems. Africa, at one time, had some of the world's best universities. Scholars from all over the world traveled to Timbuktu to study at Sankore. It is not quite as old as Oxford, but nearly so. However, it lost luster as the civilization that created it was conquered several times over several hundred years. Despite several civil wars, England was not conquered from outside after Oxford was founded, which may be the reason it remains as one of the world's great universities. Nor has Massachusetts been conquered since Harvard was founded. But it is true that Africa today does not have many of the world's great universities. The highest ranked African university in the ARWU is Witwatersrand, which is ranked "201-300". In contrast, the ARWU ranks Harvard #1 in the world. (Harvard, Stanford, Cambridge, and MIT are 1,2,3,4 -- and three of the four are located in cities named "Cambridge".)
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Post by ironhammer on Mar 16, 2019 22:40:38 GMT -5
Actually Africa does have some notable institutions of higher learning, debatable whether they are of the same caliber as Harvard or Standard or Oxford or Cambridge in the West, but they do have distinguished faculty members and alumni. The University of Cape Town and the University of the Witwatersrand are both quite respected in Africa and globally, with Nobel laureates in their faculties. The problem is not just higher education, but overall governance in these African countries that is the issue. Endemic corruption, lack of accountability to the common people and personal enrichment at the expense of the country are common problems. But it is true that Africa today does not have many of the world's great universities. The highest ranked African university in the ARWU is Witwatersrand, which is ranked "201-300". In contrast, the ARWU ranks Harvard #1 in the world. (Harvard, Stanford, Cambridge, and MIT are 1,2,3,4 -- and three of the four are located in cities named "Cambridge".) I'm not disputing Africa lacks many top universities today and it certainly needs more if it's human potential is to be fully utilized. But I am saying quality tertiary institutions does exist in Africa today. Witwatersrand IS a good university, as is Cape Town. The best? Maybe not, but they are reputable institutions. Like I said earlier, one should take rankings with a grain of salt. My larger point is that lack of sufficient good quality universities is symptomatic of a larger problem, poor governance. Not just a question of a lack of resources, but social development in many African countries are held back by it's own leaders.
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 16, 2019 22:44:58 GMT -5
But it is true that Africa today does not have many of the world's great universities. The highest ranked African university in the ARWU is Witwatersrand, which is ranked "201-300". In contrast, the ARWU ranks Harvard #1 in the world. (Harvard, Stanford, Cambridge, and MIT are 1,2,3,4 -- and three of the four are located in cities named "Cambridge".) I'm not disputing Africa lacks many top universities today and it certainly needs more if it's human potential is to be fully utilized. But I am saying quality tertiary institutions does exist in Africa today. Witwatersrand IS a good university, as is Cape Town. The best? Maybe not, but they are reputable institutions. Like I said earlier, one should take rankings with a grain of salt. My larger point is that lack of sufficient good quality universities is symptomatic of a larger problem, poor governance. Not just a question of a lack of resources, but social development in many African countries are held back by it's own leaders. You cut the part that I thought was most significant -- political stability (on the order of centuries, not decades) is a common feature of the world's greatest universities. It's hard to keep a university intact in the middle of a war zone. Obviously that's not the only thing that makes a great university, but it's an important part.
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Post by ironhammer on Mar 16, 2019 22:54:04 GMT -5
I'm not disputing Africa lacks many top universities today and it certainly needs more if it's human potential is to be fully utilized. But I am saying quality tertiary institutions does exist in Africa today. Witwatersrand IS a good university, as is Cape Town. The best? Maybe not, but they are reputable institutions. Like I said earlier, one should take rankings with a grain of salt. My larger point is that lack of sufficient good quality universities is symptomatic of a larger problem, poor governance. Not just a question of a lack of resources, but social development in many African countries are held back by it's own leaders. You cut the part that I thought was most significant -- political stability (on the order of centuries, not decades) is a common feature of the world's greatest universities. It's hard to keep a university intact in the middle of a war zone. Obviously that's not the only thing that makes a great university, but it's an important part. I agree political stability is of great importance to long-term development of universities. But war and political turmoil is not necessarily always a deal killer for development of good universities. It depends on how those countries recover from those events.
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Post by volleyballplayer00 on Mar 17, 2019 0:16:56 GMT -5
I can't believe people are actually shocked about this "new" scandal. I thought all along that this was how extremely wealthy people got into college, but now they're actually talking about it and taking charge of the situation by prosecuting those that use money to get their children in these prestigiousschools. Extremely upsetting though to see which coaches buckled under the dirty influence of money.
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Post by breakoutsports on Mar 17, 2019 7:02:55 GMT -5
I can't believe people are actually shocked about this "new" scandal. I thought all along that this was how extremely wealthy people got into college, but now they're actually talking about it and taking charge of the situation by prosecuting those that use money to get their children in these prestigiousschools. Extremely upsetting though to see which coaches buckled under the dirty influence of money. Pay to get your child into school = not a scandal Pay to get your child on an a varsity roster = a scandal
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 8:51:03 GMT -5
What makes Sport susceptible to corruption? Aside from the process flaws, what is it about these people involved that they would jeopardize their careers, and reputation?
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