|
Post by guest2 on May 19, 2019 3:36:31 GMT -5
Truth is, the GOT fanbase is not unified in demanding a single thing. Yeah there is petititon out there to remake season 8 by angry fans. But are those fans in agreement in exactly what they want in a remake? I don't think so. Some want this. Some want that. And frankly some of their ideas are pretty awful. So what are you left with? Why adopt any of their ideas, the only thing almost everyone agrees on is this season was trash, especially the last episode. Beyond the terrible storytelling and character motivations that are completely unsupported or irrational (Jon/Dany's unconvincing love, Dany's heel turn, sacrificing the Dothraki, the pinpoint accuracy of Scorpions when shooting at one dragon, but that cant hit another pretty much no matter what etc. etc. etc.) the battle scenes have been repetitive and dull. You could have cut out 10-15 minutes of Winterfell and more of Kings Landing without impairing the story at all. Bringing in different writers or letting these writers work with Martin based on a frame he provides would both work fine. I know remaking Season 8 is an idea that will never happen but this show is going to leave a bad taste with most of its fans after as compelling a first couple seasons as any show ever.
|
|
|
Post by guest2 on May 19, 2019 4:18:48 GMT -5
We already know that Bran doesn't actually "see everything". He can only see things he looks at, just like everyone else. For instance, he never looked at R+L's wedding, so he didn't know about it until Sam told him. THEN he looked at it and saw it. It's reasonable to think that he just never looked for Euron's ships, or that if he did, he spotted them too late to warn anyone. Besides, that whole ambush was silly. It was a contrivance by the writers to push Dani into a really bad position. Because it was already being done by writer fiat, the writers aren't going to then undo it by having Bran see it and warn them. Yep and the writers then further embarrassed themselves by having Dani basically attack headlong which, given any continuity, should have been a disaster. This as opposed to dozens of other choices that would have had the same effect but not showcased lazy writing (attacking at night when the Scorpions couldnt see to aim, dropping boulders on the ships from too high for the Scorpions to reach, just ignoring the fleet and scorpions on the wall and attacking the undefended center of Kings Landing from the sky, etc. etc. etc.) The number of times that characters did things that were incredibly stupid because otherwise the plot wouldnt work is astronomical. Not asking Bran to suss out the KL defenses, Cersei placing the Golden Company outside the gates, digging a fire trench 6 inches deep and 10 inches across Suspension of disbelief is great, but its not the same as suspension of thinking
|
|
|
Post by mln59 on May 19, 2019 19:03:58 GMT -5
#teamdaenerys
|
|
|
Post by ironhammer on May 19, 2019 19:36:08 GMT -5
Truth is, the GOT fanbase is not unified in demanding a single thing. Yeah there is petititon out there to remake season 8 by angry fans. But are those fans in agreement in exactly what they want in a remake? I don't think so. Some want this. Some want that. And frankly some of their ideas are pretty awful. So what are you left with? Bringing in different writers or letting these writers work with Martin based on a frame he provides would both work fine. That's assuming different writers can do a better job of course, which is big question mark.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 20:39:09 GMT -5
Didn't Martin work with them in regards to the remainder of the Series, so even if the way episodes are playing out, chances are the end game (or original;y planned end game) is the same.
|
|
|
Post by Millennium on May 19, 2019 21:25:35 GMT -5
Dany is queen Jon kills Dany Arya marries Gendry Bran is king Tyrion, Sansa, Bronn, and the Onion Knight are his advisors Brienne becomes head of the kings guard Grey Worm and the Unsullied go back to Essos Not all the options were there, so I'm entering them manually 4.5 out of 7 ain't bad. I missed on Arya and Sansa. Turns out some leaks were true.
|
|
|
Post by mikegarrison on May 19, 2019 21:25:59 GMT -5
The correct answers:
Dani dies Jon reunites with Ghost Jon kills Dani
|
|
|
Post by mikegarrison on May 19, 2019 21:27:29 GMT -5
Turns out some leaks were true. The leak about a year ago by the guy on reddit who claimed to have a friend in the animators group turned out to be essentially 100% correct.
|
|
|
Post by ironhammer on May 19, 2019 21:31:37 GMT -5
The correct answers: Dani dies Jon reunites with Ghost Jon kills Dani Yeah I have agree that is more likely than other theories...
|
|
|
Post by volleyguy on May 19, 2019 21:33:47 GMT -5
The episode was a dumpster fire as expected.
|
|
|
Post by jayj79 on May 19, 2019 21:40:25 GMT -5
Yep, I cheered when Dani died. Had to be done. Even Drogon knew that. Kind of curious just where Arya got her ship and crew from. Then again, shipbuilding seems to be a near instantaneous process in Game of Thrones.
Kind of confused just what the purpose of the Night's Watch is now. Given that they are now on good terms with the Wildlings (or at least Tormund's group). Also, wouldn't it make more sense for Tormund's group to stay south of the wall (where the climate isn't quite as brutal) until winter is over? Then they could return north of the wall and re-establish their villages and whatnot. Though I suppose they might know how to survive in the north north, even in the winter (now that the zombie horde has gone back into dormancy, at least for the time being).
And was Jon/Aegon/whatever-he-goes-by-now abandoning the Watch already, and staying with Tormund, or just riding with them for a while? I suppose no one really cares.
And Grey Worm and the Unsullied were headed to Naarth, but what about the Dothraki? I highly doubt the folks of Westeros would feel comfortable with them hanging around, since they're bound to go back to their pillaging and raping ways. Maybe they just went back to Essos.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 21:51:37 GMT -5
^I'd assume there was a time jump re: Arya's ship, amongst other things (Tyrion/Brienne/Bran etc scene) Was hoping Daenerys would not have died until near the end of the episode though.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 22:03:41 GMT -5
Does it piss anybody else off, how the council laughs at Samwell?
|
|
|
Post by volleyguy on May 19, 2019 22:19:39 GMT -5
Democracy is a pretty laughable idea for those people. I'm more pissed off by the idea that if no one is entirely happy, it must be a good compromise, which permeated the entire season.
How does anyone really know that Jon killed Dany if Rogon spirited her body away? If I were Jon, I would have been walking about asking "Where's Dany?"
|
|
|
Post by mikegarrison on May 19, 2019 22:27:29 GMT -5
^I'd assume there was a time jump re: Arya's ship, amongst other things (Tyrion/Brienne/Bran etc scene) Was hoping Daenerys would not have died until near the end of the episode though. Yes, there were several time jumps in the episode. And despite that they were intercut, it's not at all necessary that the final Sansa scene, the final Arya scene, and the final Jon scene were actualy simultaneous. Arya's sister is Queen Of The North and she's the woman who killed the Night King. I imagine her ship was paid for and constructed out of Sansa's budget. It's a little surprising she found a crew willing to sail off the edge of the map.
|
|