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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 12, 2024 17:42:41 GMT -5
4x Forfeit Medical Forfeit THAILAND after losing the first against Brunner/Hüberli you got the teams mixed up. Thailand beat SUI3 Bobner/Zoe, so THA are in the winner/winner game which is the one everybody is forfeiting.
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Post by ajm on Apr 12, 2024 17:44:03 GMT -5
4x Forfeit Medical Forfeit THAILAND after losing the first against Brunner/Hüberli They should at least schedule the loser’s games before the winner’s games so the workers can go home instead of all waiting around an hour. So now the women are getting into the act. 4 for 4 forfeits so far. Could we see a full 12 for 12 including the men? Hard to imagine they wouldn't change anything before the Xiamen Challenger in two weeks.
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 12, 2024 17:56:13 GMT -5
They should at least schedule the loser’s games before the winner’s games so the workers can go home instead of all waiting around an hour. So now the women are getting into the act. 4 for 4 forfeits so far. Could we see a full 12 for 12 including the men? probably. FIVB needs to step in, like yesterday. Clearly everyone is comfortable lying about being able to continue. They're not lying about injury, technically, since every player has, to some extent something bothering them. No player is 100% healthy.
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Post by ajm on Apr 12, 2024 18:29:28 GMT -5
Funny that savvy/AVW are going to end up playing all three Swiss squads. Not only that, they entered a Challenge event and ended up playing three Elite level teams.
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Post by ajm on Apr 12, 2024 18:34:32 GMT -5
So now the women are getting into the act. 4 for 4 forfeits so far. Could we see a full 12 for 12 including the men? probably. FIVB needs to step in, like yesterday. Clearly everyone is comfortable lying about being able to continue. They're not lying about injury, technically, since every player has, to some extent something bothering them. No player is 100% healthy. If Travis is right about requiring medical approval, the doctors are lying too. The whole thing is all an ugly charade.
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 12, 2024 18:42:42 GMT -5
probably. FIVB needs to step in, like yesterday. Clearly everyone is comfortable lying about being able to continue. They're not lying about injury, technically, since every player has, to some extent something bothering them. No player is 100% healthy. If Travis is right about requiring medical approval, the doctors are lying too. The whole thing is all an ugly charade. travis is right. I just read the competition rules earlier today. There is a difference in points between an injury forfeit, and a refusal to play forfeit... 1 point vs. 0 points.
To your other point, how is a doctor supposed to contradict a player who is complaining about tendonitis in his shoulder?
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Post by ajm on Apr 12, 2024 19:18:02 GMT -5
If Travis is right about requiring medical approval, the doctors are lying too. The whole thing is all an ugly charade. travis is right. I just read the competition rules earlier today. There is a difference in points between an injury forfeit, and a refusal to play forfeit... 1 point vs. 0 points.
To your other point, how is a doctor supposed to contradict a player who is complaining about tendonitis in his shoulder? If I went to a doctor complaining about tendinitis in my shoulder, there is zero chance he or she would say, “skip your match tonight, but you’ll be fine in the morning.” If six or eight or twelve patients came to that doctor on the same day all asking for permission/approval to skip just one match, I don’t see how it’s ethical for any licensed medical professional to do so.
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Post by guest2 on Apr 12, 2024 19:50:43 GMT -5
So now the women are getting into the act. 4 for 4 forfeits so far. Could we see a full 12 for 12 including the men? probably. FIVB needs to step in, like yesterday. Clearly everyone is comfortable lying about being able to continue. They're not lying about injury, technically, since every player has, to some extent something bothering them. No player is 100% healthy. No they are lying. Why wouldn't these players be 100% healthy? Its not basketball, they arent playing 82 games plus playoffs.
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Post by houdini on Apr 13, 2024 1:18:22 GMT -5
Wow Kennedy beat Pavan, didn't get a chance to watch yet, is this the Dino? isn't going on or soon? Watched part of it, but again Pavan didn't look her usual self in terms of jumping and moving. Knee still wrapped up. McBain was OK, but she needs Pavan to be much more aggressive at the net. Kind of feels like their Olympic spot is slipping away. Playing the Klingers to break pool next. B/B also lost, but they should have an easier matchup against FRA2. Pavan/McBain lose in two to the Klingers and are knocked out. Pavan's 20% attack percentage won't pull the team. McBain with 34%. 20-22, 17-22. Kiils - errors - attempts 9-4-25 for Sarah. (and two blocks). 12-2-29 for Molly.
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Post by modulaire on Apr 13, 2024 6:19:46 GMT -5
Must be a new record. . .
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Post by robvolei on Apr 13, 2024 8:31:42 GMT -5
Tough run for Savvy/VW. Games start at 2am for me. So no live matches for me :/
Pavan's on two option is weak af. Molly couldn't buy a point. Rough tournament for those two.
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Post by poorlambourne on Apr 13, 2024 12:17:29 GMT -5
travis is right. I just read the competition rules earlier today. There is a difference in points between an injury forfeit, and a refusal to play forfeit... 1 point vs. 0 points.
To your other point, how is a doctor supposed to contradict a player who is complaining about tendonitis in his shoulder? If I went to a doctor complaining about tendinitis in my shoulder, there is zero chance he or she would say, “skip your match tonight, but you’ll be fine in the morning.” If six or eight or twelve patients came to that doctor on the same day all asking for permission/approval to skip just one match, I don’t see how it’s ethical for any licensed medical professional to do so. What is the doctor supposed to say? “Only five injured people allowed a day, sorry”
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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 13, 2024 12:29:03 GMT -5
One thing I've seen done in eSports to help a situation where there's no pure bracket advantage to winning a group is to let group winners pick their opponents/spot in the draw.
This is a huge incentive/reward for doing well in pool, allows top teams to avoid the Duda-got-lazy-in-pool scenarios that !!!!###$$$!!! up draws, and also generate storylines, etc.
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Post by ramo2653 on Apr 13, 2024 16:13:16 GMT -5
Sweat/Coakley up now. I know FIVB rules won't allow it, but it'd be funny to see Brooke in her traditional early round random t-shirt attire.
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Post by houdini on Apr 13, 2024 16:53:02 GMT -5
21-19 win for Sweat. 3rd set now. Good foot save by Coakley. . 2:3
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