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Post by canfan22 on Apr 19, 2024 21:55:34 GMT -5
Wow, what rough Tepic week for both the USA teams. Hopefully they can rest up and pull it together for their next appearance. All y’all’s favs have struggled so bad the last 2 elite 16s but so much %*$# talk on these threads about the team that has never placed under the top 5. Happy to see the USA falter the ego’s of the teams and their fans are beyond annoying.
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Post by tamz on Apr 19, 2024 21:57:00 GMT -5
Second time this tournament where Chughes spanks them in Set 1 only to lose in tiebreak.
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 19, 2024 21:57:49 GMT -5
Wow, what rough Tepic week for both the USA teams. Hopefully they can rest up and pull it together for their next appearance. All y’all’s favs have struggled so bad the last 2 elite 16s but so much %*$# talk on these threads about the team that has never placed under the top 5. Happy to see the USA falter the ego’s of the teams and their fans are beyond annoying. welcome to the Forum canfan22. We could use more posters like you. We'll make this a sports bar.
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Post by guest2 on Apr 19, 2024 21:58:27 GMT -5
My god Kelly! Pull yourself together that has been a mantra for four years. And yet in that period she has been the most successful female player in the US.
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 19, 2024 22:01:42 GMT -5
that has been a mantra for four years. And yet in that period she has been the most successful female player in the US. she is so talented in every phase except that of mental toughness. But she's hardly alone in that among the top players. Still, through ups and downs, they are reigning World Champions. It's just puzzling.
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Post by guest2 on Apr 19, 2024 22:04:54 GMT -5
And yet in that period she has been the most successful female player in the US. she is so talented in every phase except that of mental toughness. But she's hardly alone in that among the top players. And yet, they are reigning World Champions. It's just puzzling. I don't think she is that talented physically, certainly not the way AP or Joanna or many others are. She is big, but not very. She moves ok, but Tina, Brandie and Carol would murder her in a shuttle run, and she hits hard but she isn't exactly Duda. The mental weakness narrative I don't think applies. What blocker would you say is tougher in that respect? Or what American player really?
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 19, 2024 22:07:46 GMT -5
she is so talented in every phase except that of mental toughness. But she's hardly alone in that among the top players. And yet, they are reigning World Champions. It's just puzzling. I don't think she is that talented physically, certainly not the way AP or Joanna or many others are. She is big, but not very. She moves ok, but Tina, Brandie and Carol would murder her in a shuttle run, and she hits hard but she isn't exactly Duda. The mental weakness narrative I don't think applies. What blocker would you say is tougher in that respect? Or what American player really? toughness? Scoles. And despite their loss today, TKN never seem to get into a defeatist body language. They are positive and fight to the very last point. On the men's side Trevor is soooo that way. Jake was too.
If Scoles could learn to drop like Talita, of KWJ, she could be outstanding as a blocker despite not getting a lot of blocks. That Brazilian team that beat USA2 today has the 2 back defense working like an atomic clock.
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Post by VT Karen on Apr 19, 2024 22:23:50 GMT -5
Wow, what rough Tepic week for both the USA teams. Hopefully they can rest up and pull it together for their next appearance. All y’all’s favs have struggled so bad the last 2 elite 16s but so much %*$# talk on these threads about the team that has never placed under the top 5. Happy to see the USA falter the ego’s of the teams and their fans are beyond annoying. Hey it's a personal preference that I don't prefer Brandie and Melissa. I have never spoken bad of them or said that they aren't good. They are obviously a great team. I enjoy the Canadian teams overall but have always been a big Sarah Pavan fan since her collegiate career at Nebraska. I'm not sure what %*$# you're talking about unless you take offense to me cheering for my favorite teams?
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Post by guest2 on Apr 19, 2024 23:19:45 GMT -5
I don't think she is that talented physically, certainly not the way AP or Joanna or many others are. She is big, but not very. She moves ok, but Tina, Brandie and Carol would murder her in a shuttle run, and she hits hard but she isn't exactly Duda. The mental weakness narrative I don't think applies. What blocker would you say is tougher in that respect? Or what American player really? toughness? Scoles. And despite their loss today, TKN never seem to get into a defeatist body language. They are positive and fight to the very last point. On the men's side Trevor is soooo that way. Jake was too. If Scoles could learn to drop like Talita, of KWJ, she could be outstanding as a blocker despite not getting a lot of blocks. That Brazilian team that beat USA2 today has the 2 back defense working like an atomic clock.
TKN may have better body language but both, especially Kristen, consistently make a lot of mental errors. Not sure why body language should be the judge. You know what says mental toughness to me? A good record against the top teams. Chughes have it, TKN do not. Also we are talking about Kelly's mental weakness in a match where she hit over .500 at an event where she hit over .500 and I believe she was over .500 in every match. What did Nuss' positive body language get her in their loss? Did she even have a positive hitting percentage? I know she didn't dig many balls.
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Post by VT Karen on Apr 19, 2024 23:28:37 GMT -5
toughness? Scoles. And despite their loss today, TKN never seem to get into a defeatist body language. They are positive and fight to the very last point. On the men's side Trevor is soooo that way. Jake was too. If Scoles could learn to drop like Talita, of KWJ, she could be outstanding as a blocker despite not getting a lot of blocks. That Brazilian team that beat USA2 today has the 2 back defense working like an atomic clock.
TKN may have better body language but both, especially Kristen, consistently make a lot of mental errors. Not sure why body language should be the judge. You know what says mental toughness to me? A good record against the top teams. Chughes have it, TKN do not. Also we are talking about Kelly's mental weakness in a match where she hit over .500 at an event where she hit over .500 and I believe she was over .500 in every match. What did Nuss' positive body language get her in their loss? Did she even have a positive hitting percentage? I know she didn't dig many balls. Wow, I thought that TKN and Chughes have had similar success against the top teams being that they are close in the rankings to one another.
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 19, 2024 23:39:55 GMT -5
No gringos left in this event, men or women.
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Post by guest2 on Apr 20, 2024 0:54:01 GMT -5
TKN may have better body language but both, especially Kristen, consistently make a lot of mental errors. Not sure why body language should be the judge. You know what says mental toughness to me? A good record against the top teams. Chughes have it, TKN do not. Also we are talking about Kelly's mental weakness in a match where she hit over .500 at an event where she hit over .500 and I believe she was over .500 in every match. What did Nuss' positive body language get her in their loss? Did she even have a positive hitting percentage? I know she didn't dig many balls. Wow, I thought that TKN and Chughes have had similar success against the top teams being that they are close in the rankings to one another. If we take the best 4 teams as MHB, TKN, Chughes and AP/Duda, these are their records against the other 3 top teams. AP/Duda - 16-5 Chughes - 13-9 MHB 7-13 TKN 7-16
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Post by guest2 on Apr 20, 2024 0:55:32 GMT -5
No gringos left in this event, men or women. Brandie
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Post by VT Karen on Apr 20, 2024 1:11:47 GMT -5
Wow, I thought that TKN and Chughes have had similar success against the top teams being that they are close in the rankings to one another. If we take the best 4 teams as MHB, TKN, Chughes and AP/Duda, these are their records against the other 3 top teams. AP/Duda - 16-5 Chughes - 13-9 MHB 7-13 TKN 7-16 Wow! Thank you for compiling this!
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Post by blackmambabeto on Apr 20, 2024 1:28:21 GMT -5
No gringos left in this event, men or women. Brandie what? No lol
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