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Post by acrossthepond on Apr 16, 2024 9:58:09 GMT -5
fivb.12ndr.at/tournament?tcode=WTEP2024&timezone=8Quali will look like this (quarters already in order): Pavan/McBain vs. Torres/Vidaurrazaga Klinger/Klinger vs. Hildreth/Van Gunst Tainá/Victoria vs. J. Zh. Wang/J. Dong Raupelyte/Paulikiene vs. Vieira/Chamereau Liliana/Paula vs. Hermannova/Stochlova Álvarez M/Moreno vs. Helland-Hansen/Olimstad Ittlinger/Borger vs. Sh. T. Cao/Zhu Lingdi Ahtiainen/Lahti vs. Placette/Richard
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Post by burbank55 on Apr 16, 2024 14:11:26 GMT -5
fivb.12ndr.at/tournament?tcode=WTEP2024&timezone=8Quali will look like this (quarters already in order): Pavan/McBain vs. Torres/Vidaurrazaga Klinger/Klinger vs. Hildreth/Van Gunst Tainá/Victoria vs. J. Zh. Wang/J. Dong Raupelyte/Paulikiene vs. Vieira/Chamereau Liliana/Paula vs. Hermannova/Stochlova Álvarez M/Moreno vs. Helland-Hansen/Olimstad Ittlinger/Borger vs. Sh. T. Cao/Zhu Lingdi Ahtiainen/Lahti vs. Placette/Richard I refreshed and see Hildreth/Van Gunst as withdrawn now. Before the refresh, I saw them in the Reserve list. Only 2 USA teams left before it starts.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Apr 16, 2024 14:14:10 GMT -5
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Post by houdini on Apr 16, 2024 15:34:17 GMT -5
The central court will be under a roofed stadium again. Not too good for prepsring for the Olympics. Carambula may even get a sky ball off the ceiling.
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Post by ajm on Apr 16, 2024 15:48:37 GMT -5
They went all the way down to #8 on the reserve list to fill the qualifier. Most surprising dropouts are both Verge-Depre sisters, both of whom would have been in the qualifier. I wonder if they somehow coordinated their withdrawals, as they are in a pretty tight battle for the SUI2 spot. Bansley/Bukovec and the Thai team are also passing up a big opportunity to catch up in the Olympics points race. It's particularly surprising since all four teams were already in Mexico.
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 16, 2024 15:51:22 GMT -5
Interesting Q2 matchup between ESP1 and ESP2. Also, Pavan/McBain get the Klinger sisters in Q2, and I favor the Klingers given the level of play, or Pavan's knee, lately.
**edit** nevermind ESP1 eliminated in Q1 by CHN2
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 16, 2024 15:57:07 GMT -5
They went all the way down to #8 on the reserve list to fill the qualifier. Most surprising dropouts are both Verge-Depre sisters, both of whom would have been in the qualifier. I wonder if they somehow coordinated their withdrawals, as they are in a pretty tight battle for the SUI2 spot. Bansley/Bukovec and the Thai team are also passing up a big opportunity to catch up in the Olympics points race. It's particularly surprising since all four teams were already in Mexico. In terms of SUI2 and SUI3, one or the other is already in Paris based on points, so the only competition between the two is themselves. So one could have said, "I prefer to withdraw if you do also, otherwise we play". and the other agreed.
Teams playing Xiamen might think, as I do, that the higher odds of good points is a Challenger vs. an E16, and decided to rest up for their better odds opportunity. I can imagine going from heat+altitude, directly to hotter+mild altitude (3,000'), then getting to Xiamen and playing 3 events back/back/back looked like poor planning to some teams. Tepic is the right one to skip for Xiamen teams. All those teams you mentioned, SUI2, SUI3, THA and CAN3 are registered for Xiamen.
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Post by ajm on Apr 17, 2024 14:12:50 GMT -5
Looks like some kind of forfeit involving CZE vs LTU. Kind of surprising because both teams are on the Olympic points bubble, but maybe someone got sick.
Edit: The Czechs forfeited due to injury.
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Post by ajm on Apr 17, 2024 18:45:17 GMT -5
Pavan clearly has trouble moving around, whether it’s her knee or whatever. But also 90% of her attacks are shots, which is odd to see from the tallest player on the beach. And it’s not effective at all. As a long time fan of her game, it’s difficult to watch her play now. Last fall Pavan/McBain looked like a team on the rise after beating several good teams. But now, barring some miraculous turnaround, I think we can cross them off the list of Olympic contenders.
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 17, 2024 19:10:50 GMT -5
Pavan/McBain ... I think we can cross them off the list of Olympic contenders. I agree. Pavan isn't even 75%... she's like 50%. She must have a partially torn ACL.
This opens the road for ESP2. CZE appear to be injured as well, at the worst possible time.
So to me it looking likely to be between FIN, AUT, THA and ESP2 to gain that 18th spot, and only ESP2 and AUT are into Pool play in Tepic. Maybe CAN3, but they have so much ground to make up... if they podium in Xiamen then we can better asses their chances. Problem is there is only Xiamen and Star Jablonski that are Challenges. E16s are an absolute bloodbath for teams outside the top 16 to even get out of Qualis.
It seems to be that ESP2 are peaking at the right time. They are the most mature team and will likely be stronger mentally than the others.
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Post by ajm on Apr 18, 2024 1:16:34 GMT -5
Looks like AP/Duda and China1 dropped out at the last minute so China2 and Pavan/McBain both get in the main draw despite losing today. Ittlinger/Borger moves into the #1 seed spot in Pool A.
Pool C looks the toughest by far. Gonna be some weaker teams advancing to the Round of 12 from the other pools.
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Post by robvolei on Apr 18, 2024 1:25:08 GMT -5
I'm confused. Pavan/McBain and Wang/Dong make the MD after losing in the 2nd round of the qualis? Did two MD teams pullout after qualifiers were set?
I give Sarah/Molly a slim chance to advance to round of 12. They can only beat Spain in their pool. Would be surprised if they beat Italy, maybe they can take a set off them if Canada play a good game.
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Post by burbank55 on Apr 18, 2024 1:46:47 GMT -5
Looks like AP/Duda and China1 dropped out at the last minute so China2 and Pavan/McBain both get in the main draw despite losing today. Ittlinger/Borger moves into the #1 seed spot in Pool A. Pool C looks the toughest by far. Gonna be some weaker teams advancing to the Round of 12 from the other pools. Yeah, can someone please explain how Ittlinger/Borger comes out of Qualifications and gets the overall #1 seed in the MainDraw? They weren’t even #1 in Q. Even if the #1 Q team replaces the withdrawn #1 MD team, then wouldn’t Pavan/McBain who were #1 in Q get it?
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Post by beachcomber on Apr 18, 2024 9:20:18 GMT -5
Oh boy. Are we going to have to put tanking rules in place? Perhaps a team that withdraws last minute should not be able to be replaced by a team from the same federation? Even if it's legit, perception is everything.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Apr 18, 2024 9:43:38 GMT -5
This is a mess. 5+ teams dropped week of the event. Likely the Verge-Depre sisters are coordinating dropouts rather than competing. Ittlinger/Borger are the #1 seed. Chughes are playing the Italians, Liliana/Paula, and Pavan/McBain in an Olympic year Elite event. You can't make this stuff up.
Also how did the Chinese get chosen as the lucky loser team? They were the lowest seed and lost a set 21-11 in their final round.
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