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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 28, 2024 14:49:35 GMT -5
Just looked it up and yes, the South America continental finals is in Brazil in two weeks. Teams entered include the Grimalts, Aravena/Droguett, Evandro/Arthur, and the Capogrossos. Likely another 720 points at least for the Grimalts. That is correct, kind of, BUT, a team can only use one contineltal championship for the whole qualification period. Since the Grimalts already took part in last year's South American Champs (placed second for 720points), they can only improve if they win for 800 points, a boost of just 80.
If I understand the rule correctly, they would drop the previous CSVP Finals, not their worst finish.
ahh, that makes a big difference. For now I will remove my estimated points from this year's upcoming event.
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 28, 2024 15:32:29 GMT -5
Just looked it up and yes, the South America continental finals is in Brazil in two weeks. Teams entered include the Grimalts, Aravena/Droguett, Evandro/Arthur, and the Capogrossos. Likely another 720 points at least for the Grimalts.
If I understand the rule correctly, they would drop the previous CSVP Finals, not their worst finish.
You mean it's possible the Grimalts could finish 4th and actually lose points in the Olympic Race? Doesn't seem like the event has any real value to the Grimalts... wonder if they'll withdraw
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Post by larabeach on Apr 28, 2024 16:34:57 GMT -5
If I understand the rule correctly, they would drop the previous CSVP Finals, not their worst finish.
You mean it's possible the Grimalts could finish 4th and actually lose points in the Olympic Race? Doesn't seem like the event has any real value to the Grimalts... wonder if they'll withdraw
Again, if I understood the rule correctly: if a team takes part in more than one Continental Championship during the qualification period only one (the best one) will be used. So, they can't lose points (in the Olympìc race). This event still has some value for them as a booster for their entry raking points.
Not sure how this is regarded in South America, but in Europe these are prestigious events, teams tend to take them quite seriously (maybe with the exception of the Olympic year ones (tend to happen after the Olympics).
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Post by ajm on Apr 29, 2024 21:23:18 GMT -5
Tri just posted a cryptic photo of an MRI machine to his IG, so maybe there’s an injury involved? Caption was that he was in them a lot. Implies that it's been an ongoing health thing, not just recent. Travis said Tri and Chaim have “a lot of health stuff going on” and he’ll let them talk about it when they’re ready.
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Post by vbexpat2 on Apr 30, 2024 7:52:56 GMT -5
Caption was that he was in them a lot. Implies that it's been an ongoing health thing, not just recent. Travis said Tri and Chaim have “a lot of health stuff going on” and he’ll let them talk about it when they’re ready. I saw this too. Wondering if Tri is going to hang it up after this season. He seems generally unenthused about playing, and transitioning into a bigger role on sandcast/ exploring other ventures. In most media I've seen, he doesn't seem to enjoy playing at all, he acts like its a burden/goes through the motions. All that said, if he has a legitimate injury, may be even more reason to throw in the towel on his playing career.
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Post by donnyb on Apr 30, 2024 8:54:36 GMT -5
Unless its an injury I see tri as just upset he can’t make the Olympics and all the other guys are ahead of him now.
When tri crabbs etc careers are over who would of ever thought Trevor might have the best career of those 3 😳🧐🤷♂️
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Post by vbexpat2 on Apr 30, 2024 9:06:21 GMT -5
Unless is an injury I see tri as just upset he can’t make the Olympics and all the other guys are ahead of him now. When tri crabbs etc careers are over who would of ever thought Trevor might have the best career of those 3 😳🧐🤷♂️ I was giving the benefit of the doubt with the injury, but I can’t say that him being bitter didn’t cross my mind
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 30, 2024 11:25:58 GMT -5
Caption was that he was in them a lot. Implies that it's been an ongoing health thing, not just recent. Travis said Tri and Chaim have “a lot of health stuff going on” and he’ll let them talk about it when they’re ready. reading between the lines, I did not interpret it that way. I interpreted it as --
"health stuff is why they didn't go tto China". to which I call a major BS. could be a secondary reason, but the primary reason is they realized, three tournaments after the rest of us did, that they're out of the race.
then he said he'd let them talk about (my interpretation), not health, but their Future. So I think they'll announce that they're both finished with FIVB, and will play AVP only. Depending on how the Taylors are planning, I'd like to see Tri with either Taylor on AVP, or with Sander for both FIVB and AVP ... Chaim just doesn't have it anymore. I think Tri would do well with Sander since IMO his primary issues this year resulted from trying way too hard, from pressing to do too much, from trying to peddle in a bike race with a near flat rear tire, and with Sander that would go away. He just needs a properly inflated rear tire.
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Post by stephenasinjin on Apr 30, 2024 14:35:32 GMT -5
Unless its an injury I see tri as just upset he can’t make the Olympics and all the other guys are ahead of him now. When tri crabbs etc careers are over who would of ever thought Trevor might have the best career of those 3 😳🧐🤷♂️ This is an interesting comment. Writing as someone who’s a much bigger Trevor fan than a Taylor fan: at what point is Trevor passing Taylor? I think I’d argue that I need to see a 5th at the Olympics to get on board with that assertion. Chalking it up as Taylor fivb 2017-2021 is equivalent to Trevor’s run 2021-2024. BRB gonna edit my comment with their # of avp wins. My gut says Taylor is still ahead. ***edit Taylor: 13 avp wins, Trevor 8. Also I searched “crabb Bvbinfo” and Taylor’s page was the first result. Case closed.
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 30, 2024 15:01:04 GMT -5
Unless its an injury I see tri as just upset he can’t make the Olympics and all the other guys are ahead of him now. When tri crabbs etc careers are over who would of ever thought Trevor might have the best career of those 3 😳🧐🤷♂️ This is an interesting comment. Writing as someone who’s a much bigger Trevor fan than a Taylor fan: at what point is Trevor passing Taylor? I think I’d argue that I need to see a 5th at the Olympics to get on board with that assertion. Chalking it up as Taylor fivb 2017-2021 is equivalent to Trevor’s run 2021-2024. BRB gonna edit my comment with their # of avp wins. My gut says Taylor is still ahead. ***edit Taylor: 13 avp wins, Trevor 8. Also I searched “crabb Bvbinfo” and Taylor’s page was the first result. Case closed. I think Trevor is ahead as an overall Beach player (which includes blocking), b/c can also block when needed, he is a tweener. Tweener however, in a team, is a big disadvantage. He's good at siding out, but sucks at blocking and defense. We see how Taylor did with Jake... and I don't see how Trevor would have had the same synergy or success with Jake.
So given that Beach doesn't have singles, I think Taylor was a more successful partner.
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Post by LongSpatch on Apr 30, 2024 15:03:04 GMT -5
Unless its an injury I see tri as just upset he can’t make the Olympics and all the other guys are ahead of him now. When tri crabbs etc careers are over who would of ever thought Trevor might have the best career of those 3 😳🧐🤷♂️ This is an interesting comment. Writing as someone who’s a much bigger Trevor fan than a Taylor fan: at what point is Trevor passing Taylor? I think I’d argue that I need to see a 5th at the Olympics to get on board with that assertion. Chalking it up as Taylor fivb 2017-2021 is equivalent to Trevor’s run 2021-2024. BRB gonna edit my comment with their # of avp wins. My gut says Taylor is still ahead. ***edit Taylor: 13 avp wins, Trevor 8. Also I searched “crabb Bvbinfo” and Taylor’s page was the first result. Case closed. trevor definitely ahead on head to head. And id say he passed up Taylor as soon as Taylor and Gibb were done
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Post by frieswiththat on Apr 30, 2024 21:13:33 GMT -5
This is an interesting comment. Writing as someone who’s a much bigger Trevor fan than a Taylor fan: at what point is Trevor passing Taylor? I think I’d argue that I need to see a 5th at the Olympics to get on board with that assertion. Chalking it up as Taylor fivb 2017-2021 is equivalent to Trevor’s run 2021-2024. BRB gonna edit my comment with their # of avp wins. My gut says Taylor is still ahead. ***edit Taylor: 13 avp wins, Trevor 8. Also I searched “crabb Bvbinfo” and Taylor’s page was the first result. Case closed. trevor definitely ahead on head to head. And id say he passed up Taylor as soon as Taylor and Gibb were done I wonder if TayCrabb & Theo would do as well as Treo have been doing (on AVP and FIVB)?
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Post by guest2 on May 1, 2024 1:33:50 GMT -5
This is an interesting comment. Writing as someone who’s a much bigger Trevor fan than a Taylor fan: at what point is Trevor passing Taylor? I think I’d argue that I need to see a 5th at the Olympics to get on board with that assertion. Chalking it up as Taylor fivb 2017-2021 is equivalent to Trevor’s run 2021-2024. BRB gonna edit my comment with their # of avp wins. My gut says Taylor is still ahead. ***edit Taylor: 13 avp wins, Trevor 8. Also I searched “crabb Bvbinfo” and Taylor’s page was the first result. Case closed. I think Trevor is ahead as an overall Beach player (which includes blocking), b/c can also block when needed, he is a tweener. Tweener however, in a team, is a big disadvantage. He's good at siding out, but sucks at blocking and defense. We see how Taylor did with Jake... and I don't see how Trevor would have had the same synergy or success with Jake. So given that Beach doesn't have singles, I think Taylor was a more successful partner.
The thinking back then was that Taylor was the force behind that team's success, but in retrospect, I think it was Jake more than him. I also think we forget that Jake/Taylor were not a very good team. They were basically Treo in terms of results, maybe more 9ths in full fields, but they were probably somewhere between 11-20 in the world for most of their partnership
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Post by stephenasinjin on May 1, 2024 9:05:55 GMT -5
This is an interesting comment. Writing as someone who’s a much bigger Trevor fan than a Taylor fan: at what point is Trevor passing Taylor? I think I’d argue that I need to see a 5th at the Olympics to get on board with that assertion. Chalking it up as Taylor fivb 2017-2021 is equivalent to Trevor’s run 2021-2024. BRB gonna edit my comment with their # of avp wins. My gut says Taylor is still ahead. ***edit Taylor: 13 avp wins, Trevor 8. Also I searched “crabb Bvbinfo” and Taylor’s page was the first result. Case closed. trevor definitely ahead on head to head. And id say he passed up Taylor as soon as Taylor and Gibb were done Keep in mind we’re talking about career not who’s better currently. Y’all are evaluating as who’s better right now. I agree Trevor is better right now.
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Post by stephenasinjin on May 1, 2024 9:07:43 GMT -5
I think Trevor is ahead as an overall Beach player (which includes blocking), b/c can also block when needed, he is a tweener. Tweener however, in a team, is a big disadvantage. He's good at siding out, but sucks at blocking and defense. We see how Taylor did with Jake... and I don't see how Trevor would have had the same synergy or success with Jake. So given that Beach doesn't have singles, I think Taylor was a more successful partner.
The thinking back then was that Taylor was the force behind that team's success, but in retrospect, I think it was Jake more than him. I also think we forget that Jake/Taylor were not a very good team. They were basically Treo in terms of results, maybe more 9ths in full fields, but they were probably somewhere between 11-20 in the world for most of their partnership Would you say Olympic points rankings are a fair judgement? If memory serves they were 7th-9th roughly in qualification points at the time.
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