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Post by C on Sept 9, 2024 2:08:16 GMT -5
The recruiting is my biggest question as well and I would love if anyone who follows the program closely could shed a little light. How exactly did Hawaii fall behind so many other programs in terms of landing top recruits? There’s also a ton of high-level in state recruits and it seems like the majority of them don’t choose UH? Not trying to cause arguments here, I like the program a lot and it’d be great to see them do well on the national stage. In my opinion, Robyn's 2019 is the gem of her tenure, and they were very good. 2020 and beyond looked to be more of the same and fairly promising. But when COVID hit and the Big West cancelled the 2020 season, it hit Hawaii differently, I suppose. Jolie Rasmussen and Hanna Hellvig, the leading attackers from the 2019 team, decided not to return to the team in 2021, each for special reasons that are personal to them. The program also lost a great coach in Angelica Ljungqvist. Hawaii did bring in nice freshman classes in 2020 and 2021 that included promising athletes like Martyna Leoniak (transferred to NC State after 2021), Mia Johnson (transferred to Texas A&M and played one season there in 2022), and Anna Kiraly, who was unfortunately diagnosed with MS and had to medically retire. The 2021 recruiting class was basically decimated. Tayli Ikenaga and Kate Lang, the lone seniors this year, are actually 2020 recruits who are playing their 4th season in 5 years since Hawaii didn't play late fall 2020 or spring 2021. Amber Igiede and Riley Wagoner were the only 2019 seniors to make it till the end of their 4-year careers as their classmates, Braelyn Akana and Tiffany Westerberg, decided to end their careers due to personal reasons. Recently, Hawaii also lost Paula Guersching to transfer, and now she's at Miami. This has done two things immediately to the 2024 Wahine: 1.) Sophomore Stella Adeyemi, who is promising but undersized and inexperienced, needs to man the second outside hitter position, while Sophomore Tali Hakas, a natural 6-rotation outside hitter, has been asked to fill in on the opposite. There really is no proven backup for either player right now. The loss of Anna Kiraly now forces Hawaii's middle position to be occupied by two true freshman and two juniors, Jaycn Bamis (a transfer from Clemson who is relatively unexperienced and hasn't played major minutes for Hawaii till this year) and Megan Monahan, a transfer from Division II HPU. So from what I've observed, Hawaii has had high turnover recently due to multiple reasons, some disclosed and some undisclosed. Personally, I am hoping that the 2024 recruiting class, which has the reigning Hawaii Gatorade Player of the Year Adrianna Arquette, Hawaii All-State middle Mili Sylvester, solid freshman DS from Texas Victoria Leyva, and Maddie Way from Sierra Canyon, helps push the reset button for the program. But even this class has already been bit by the turnover bug when physical freshman Malinah Purcell decided to stop playing volleyball at this time for personal reasons. Next season, Hawaii is expected to have the services of another good homegrown recruit in Chalei Reid. If any Hawaii fans want to fill in any holes or correct anything that may be wrong, please do so. This is wonderful insight! Thank you for sharing. I had no idea Hawaii had seen so much turnover in recent years. It explains a lot. Hoping the recruiting classes coming in stay healthy and strong. |
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Post by C on Sept 9, 2024 2:12:34 GMT -5
You're conflating trolling with curiosity and it's not a good look. I don't know how I ever admitted to being lazy. Again, you're reaching. Satisfy your curiosity by doing your own research. It's easy enough. Select a profile of someone who regularly posts on a Hawai'i thread and read their latest. Soon you'll find multiple comments on the subject. It's so ridiculously easy to find depth on the subject, I can only conclude you're incredibly lazy or trolling. Probably both. Well, unlike you I don't have the time to do a deep dive on people's posts. You can conclude all you want. It's of no consequence to me. |
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Post by noblesol on Sept 9, 2024 2:14:58 GMT -5
Satisfy your curiosity by doing your own research. It's easy enough. Select a profile of someone who regularly posts on a Hawai'i thread and read their latest. Soon you'll find multiple comments on the subject. It's so ridiculously easy to find depth on the subject, I can only conclude you're incredibly lazy or trolling. Probably both. Well, unlike you I don't have the time to do a deep dive on people's posts. You can conclude all you want. It's of no consequence to me. Move on troll. |
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Post by VT Karen on Sept 9, 2024 2:17:47 GMT -5
In my opinion, Robyn's 2019 is the gem of her tenure, and they were very good. 2020 and beyond looked to be more of the same and fairly promising. But when COVID hit and the Big West cancelled the 2020 season, it hit Hawaii differently, I suppose. Jolie Rasmussen and Hanna Hellvig, the leading attackers from the 2019 team, decided not to return to the team in 2021, each for special reasons that are personal to them. The program also lost a great coach in Angelica Ljungqvist. Hawaii did bring in nice freshman classes in 2020 and 2021 that included promising athletes like Martyna Leoniak (transferred to NC State after 2021), Mia Johnson (transferred to Texas A&M and played one season there in 2022), and Anna Kiraly, who was unfortunately diagnosed with MS and had to medically retire. The 2021 recruiting class was basically decimated. Tayli Ikenaga and Kate Lang, the lone seniors this year, are actually 2020 recruits who are playing their 4th season in 5 years since Hawaii didn't play late fall 2020 or spring 2021. Amber Igiede and Riley Wagoner were the only 2019 seniors to make it till the end of their 4-year careers as their classmates, Braelyn Akana and Tiffany Westerberg, decided to end their careers due to personal reasons. Recently, Hawaii also lost Paula Guersching to transfer, and now she's at Miami. This has done two things immediately to the 2024 Wahine: 1.) Sophomore Stella Adeyemi, who is promising but undersized and inexperienced, needs to man the second outside hitter position, while Sophomore Tali Hakas, a natural 6-rotation outside hitter, has been asked to fill in on the opposite. There really is no proven backup for either player right now. The loss of Anna Kiraly now forces Hawaii's middle position to be occupied by two true freshman and two juniors, Jaycn Bamis (a transfer from Clemson who is relatively unexperienced and hasn't played major minutes for Hawaii till this year) and Megan Monahan, a transfer from Division II HPU. So from what I've observed, Hawaii has had high turnover recently due to multiple reasons, some disclosed and some undisclosed. Personally, I am hoping that the 2024 recruiting class, which has the reigning Hawaii Gatorade Player of the Year Adrianna Arquette, Hawaii All-State middle Mili Sylvester, solid freshman DS from Texas Victoria Leyva, and Maddie Way from Sierra Canyon, helps push the reset button for the program. But even this class has already been bit by the turnover bug when physical freshman Malinah Purcell decided to stop playing volleyball at this time for personal reasons. Next season, Hawaii is expected to have the services of another good homegrown recruit in Chalei Reid. If any Hawaii fans want to fill in any holes or correct anything that may be wrong, please do so. Shoji's last seven years were managed decline from Shoji's previous years. He passed to his successor a largely bare recruit cupboard for 2017 and 2018. Robyn's 2019 team had three future All-Americans she'd recruited. Unfortunately Rasmussen was lost to injury and Hellvig departed after the BWC cancelled the 2020 season due to Covid, leaving Igiede. I respectfully disagree that the cupboard was bare. Dave left the incoming coach with McKenna Granato, a great point scoring outside that could shoulder a heavy load, Emily Maglio who was already on her way to becoming an all-American in my opinion, Norene Iosia (nothing more to be said there other than the girl was through and through a thoroughbred volleyball player) and an experienced senior libero in Savannah Kahakai. It's a shame that injuries held both Kalei Greeley and Casey Castillo back. In my opinion, the 2017 and 2018 seasons went the way it went because of the coaching and the change in style. I think it was a lot for the returnees and incoming freshmen and yes, Robyn, to deal with. I would even go on to say I think that 2017 and 2018 were the sloppiest seasons of Wahine volleyball as far as play goes. But in 2019, Robyn and her staff really hit a sweet spot and so far this young season, I feel like that sweet spot is coming back. The keyword that Robyn has continued to use through 4 games is patience. I think the program will get to where they all envision it will. |
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Post by huskersoftroy on Sept 9, 2024 2:29:00 GMT -5
The recruiting is my biggest question as well and I would love if anyone who follows the program closely could shed a little light. How exactly did Hawaii fall behind so many other programs in terms of landing top recruits? There’s also a ton of high-level in state recruits and it seems like the majority of them don’t choose UH? Not trying to cause arguments here, I like the program a lot and it’d be great to see them do well on the national stage. This has done two things immediately to the 2024 Wahine: 1.) Sophomore Stella Adeyemi, who is promising but undersized and inexperienced, needs to man the second outside hitter position, while Sophomore Tali Hakas, a natural 6-rotation outside hitter, has been asked to fill in on the opposite. There really is no proven backup for either player right now. The loss of Anna Kiraly now forces Hawaii's middle position to be occupied by two true freshman and two juniors, Jaycn Bamis (a transfer from Clemson who is relatively unexperienced and hasn't played major minutes for Hawaii till this year) and Megan Monahan, a transfer from Division II HPU. So from what I've observed, Hawaii has had high turnover recently due to multiple reasons, some disclosed and some undisclosed. Personally, I am hoping that the 2024 recruiting class, which has the reigning Hawaii Gatorade Player of the Year Adrianna Arquette, Hawaii All-State middle Mili Sylvester, solid freshman DS from Texas Victoria Leyva, and Maddie Way from Sierra Canyon, helps push the reset button for the program. Thank you for your insightful response! FWIW i saw a lot of potential with this team during the match, and Leyva specifically impressed me a ton. Alexander-Adeyemi-Hakas is a dynamic trio of pins and hopefully they take Hawaii far! Good luck to all the Hawaii fans  |
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Post by noblesol on Sept 9, 2024 2:35:51 GMT -5
Shoji's last seven years were managed decline from Shoji's previous years. He passed to his successor a largely bare recruit cupboard for 2017 and 2018. Robyn's 2019 team had three future All-Americans she'd recruited. Unfortunately Rasmussen was lost to injury and Hellvig departed after the BWC cancelled the 2020 season due to Covid, leaving Igiede. I respectfully disagree that the cupboard was bare. Dave left the incoming coach with McKenna Granato, a great point scoring outside that could shoulder a heavy load, Emily Maglio who was already on her way to becoming an all-American in my opinion, Norene Iosia (nothing more to be said there other than the girl was through and through a thoroughbred volleyball player) and an experienced senior libero in Savannah Kahakai. It's a shame that injuries held both Kalei Greeley and Casey Castillo back. In my opinion, the 2017 and 2018 seasons went the way it went because of the coaching and the change in style. I think it was a lot for the returnees and incoming freshmen and yes, Robyn, to deal with. I would even go on to say I think that 2017 and 2018 were the sloppiest seasons of Wahine volleyball as far as play goes. But in 2019, Robyn and her staff really hit a sweet spot and so far this young season, I feel like that sweet spot is coming back. The keyword that Robyn has continued to use through 4 games is patience. I think the program will get to where they all envision it will. I agree with your post except that it missed the key point of what I wrote, which is that Shoji's recruits for 2017 and 2018 were not going to return the program to dominance. He left to Robyn in 2017: Sophia Howling; Janelle Gong; Skylar Williams. Gong and Williams contributed after a couple of years of coaching up by Robyn and Angelica, but Howling was a bust for Hawai'i. For 2018: Trinity Castaneda and Kamalei Krug. Trinity was a Shoji recruit, she was a bust for Hawai'i and transferred to DII UCSD. Krug was a roster depth walk-on that Robyn brought in. Shoji his last few years had departed the recruiting trail. |
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Post by VT Karen on Sept 9, 2024 2:42:42 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree that the cupboard was bare. Dave left the incoming coach with McKenna Granato, a great point scoring outside that could shoulder a heavy load, Emily Maglio who was already on her way to becoming an all-American in my opinion, Norene Iosia (nothing more to be said there other than the girl was through and through a thoroughbred volleyball player) and an experienced senior libero in Savannah Kahakai. It's a shame that injuries held both Kalei Greeley and Casey Castillo back. In my opinion, the 2017 and 2018 seasons went the way it went because of the coaching and the change in style. I think it was a lot for the returnees and incoming freshmen and yes, Robyn, to deal with. I would even go on to say I think that 2017 and 2018 were the sloppiest seasons of Wahine volleyball as far as play goes. But in 2019, Robyn and her staff really hit a sweet spot and so far this young season, I feel like that sweet spot is coming back. The keyword that Robyn has continued to use through 4 games is patience. I think the program will get to where they all envision it will. I agree with your post except that it missed the key point of what I wrote, which is that the Shoji's recruits for 2017 and 2018 were not going to return the program to dominance. He left to Robyn in 2017: Sophia Howling; Janelle Gong; Skylar Williams. Gong and Williams contributed after a couple of years of coaching up by Robyn and Angelica, but Howling was a bust for Hawai'i. For 2018: Trinity Castaneda and Kamala Krug. Trinity was Shoji recruit, she was a bust for Hawai'i and transferred to DII UCSD. Krug was a roster depth walk-on that Robyn brought in. Shoji his last few years had departed the recruiting trail. Okay, I can understand that if we're looking solely at the recruiting aspect. |
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Post by volleyman808 on Sept 9, 2024 3:00:57 GMT -5
The recruiting is my biggest question as well and I would love if anyone who follows the program closely could shed a little light. How exactly did Hawaii fall behind so many other programs in terms of landing top recruits? There’s also a ton of high-level in state recruits and it seems like the majority of them don’t choose UH? Not trying to cause arguments here, I like the program a lot and it’d be great to see them do well on the national stage. Hawaii did bring in nice freshman classes in 2020 and 2021 that included promising athletes like Martyna Leoniak (transferred to NC State after 2021), Mia Johnson (transferred to Texas A&M and played one season there in 2022), and Anna Kiraly, who was unfortunately diagnosed with MS and had to medically retire. The 2021 recruiting class was basically decimated. ... If any Hawaii fans want to fill in any holes or correct anything that may be wrong, please do so. I would also like add that Annika de Goede & Ilayda Demirtas (both opposites in the 2021 class) were busts, which leads to us not having a natural opposite on the 2024 squad. |
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Post by VT Karen on Sept 9, 2024 3:03:16 GMT -5
Hawaii did bring in nice freshman classes in 2020 and 2021 that included promising athletes like Martyna Leoniak (transferred to NC State after 2021), Mia Johnson (transferred to Texas A&M and played one season there in 2022), and Anna Kiraly, who was unfortunately diagnosed with MS and had to medically retire. The 2021 recruiting class was basically decimated. ... If any Hawaii fans want to fill in any holes or correct anything that may be wrong, please do so. I would also like add that Annika de Goede & Ilayda Demirtas (both opposites in the 2021 class) were busts, which leads to us not having a natural opposite on the 2024 squad. 100%! The team is still going through it because of that as well. Great point and thank you for adding in! |
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Post by babybacksets on Sept 9, 2024 7:01:38 GMT -5
lol @ Demirtas, I knew it was nope from the moment I watched that first skills video smh
Height phishing forreeal I think bringing in really good athletes needs to be the main goal from here on. Some size is great but not at the expense of being dynamic on the court.
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Post by brooselee on Sept 9, 2024 9:10:37 GMT -5
Coach Robyn is not an easy coach to play for . Takes a certain mental toughness to play for her. Maybe instead of just recruiting talented players, she is looking for talented players who fit her team.
When you insist on finding fits, your talent pool get shrunk but I would think she wouldn’t have it any other way. She doesn’t need the stress of dealing won’t big egos and selfish players. This t current team might be short on numbers and stature but I think Robyn loves this team cause they just a bunch of scrappers and fighters.
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Post by spikegreen on Sept 9, 2024 16:21:32 GMT -5
Coach Robyn is not an easy coach to play for . Takes a certain mental toughness to play for her. Maybe instead of just recruiting talented players, she is looking for talented players who fit her team. When you insist on finding fits, your talent pool get shrunk but I would think she wouldn’t have it any other way. She doesn’t need the stress of dealing won’t big egos and selfish players. This t current team might be short on numbers and stature but I think Robyn loves this team cause they just a bunch of scrappers and fighters. I kinda like what Robyn is bringing in for ‘25-‘26 so far: 2025 with Chalei Reid (outside), Kahea Moriwaki (libero) and Makena Biondi (6’5” middle) 2026 Rachel Purser will be a beast in 2 years (already is) in the middle or on the right. For this year once Maddie Way is fully recovered, she will contribute. |
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Post by brooselee on Sept 9, 2024 17:00:00 GMT -5
Coach Robyn is not an easy coach to play for . Takes a certain mental toughness to play for her. Maybe instead of just recruiting talented players, she is looking for talented players who fit her team. When you insist on finding fits, your talent pool get shrunk but I would think she wouldn’t have it any other way. She doesn’t need the stress of dealing won’t big egos and selfish players. This t current team might be short on numbers and stature but I think Robyn loves this team cause they just a bunch of scrappers and fighters. I kinda like what Robyn is bringing in for ‘25-‘26 so far: 2025 with Chalei Reid (outside), Kahea Moriwaki (libero) and Makena Biondi (6’5” middle) 2026 Rachel Purser will be a beast in 2 years (already is) in the middle or on the right. For this year once Maddie Way is fully recovered, she will contribute. I agree regarding Purser. Just watched some of her videos a couple of days ago and she was banging balls all over the place….including from the right. She still has two years of HS before being a Wahine and she could be a stud. Keep in mind….she is only a Jr. in HS. The girl got a cannon for an arm. We found our next “Nikki Taylor”? |
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