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Post by big10+4 fan on Sept 23, 2024 11:20:27 GMT -5
2016 was the year, not 2011. Penn State actually went 6-2 in their entire match in the regular season that year against Nebraska, and then in the Regional Semis they were in a 6-2 only some of the time. A situational 6-2 if you will. The international double-sub is certainly a tool to have and can pay off situationally. yeah that makes more sense. UCLA was the 2011 dandy and PSU lost to Hawai'i in RSF. It's all comingggg baacccckk to me nowwwwww. Iirc, Penn State lost to UCLA in the regional semi in 2011. Lost to Hawaii in regional semi in 2015 in Des Moines.
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Post by Big 🔴 Energy on Sept 23, 2024 11:30:20 GMT -5
yeah that makes more sense. UCLA was the 2011 dandy and PSU lost to Hawai'i in RSF. It's all comingggg baacccckk to me nowwwwww. Iirc, Penn State lost to UCLA in the regional semi in 2011. Lost to Hawaii in regional semi in 2015 in Des Moines. Is this one of the hundreds of matches you have in .mp4?
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Post by hipsterfilth on Sept 23, 2024 12:03:09 GMT -5
yeah that makes more sense. UCLA was the 2011 dandy and PSU lost to Hawai'i in RSF. It's all comingggg baacccckk to me nowwwwww. Iirc, Penn State lost to UCLA in the regional semi in 2011. Lost to Hawaii in regional semi in 2015 in Des Moines. lol okay nevermind I'm going back to work. no idea why my brain isn't working today.
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Post by big10+4 fan on Sept 23, 2024 12:03:34 GMT -5
Iirc, Penn State lost to UCLA in the regional semi in 2011. Lost to Hawaii in regional semi in 2015 in Des Moines. Is this one of the hundreds of matches you have in .mp4? Nah. I'm always on the lookout for that 2011 UCLA/PSU game lol. The 2015 Hawaii/PSU is on YouTube though
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Post by azsker on Sept 23, 2024 12:06:33 GMT -5
okay so I understand what you're saying, but it's not best to debate on an unjustified projection by using a team from over 2 decades ago. The game has changed IMMENSELY... 2003?!?!?! In 2015 USC ran a modified 6-2 and was #1 before losing a heartbreaker to Kanas in the Regional final. In 2017 USC ran a 6-2 and had several match points on Florida at Florida to go to the final four and couldn't quite close it out. They were plenty good to beat that Florida team. Has the game changed IMMENSELY since 2017? you just used two teams who didn't even make a final four to punctuate a point that a 6-2 can win a title? Do you not remember the original post indicating no coach plans to win a title in a 6-2? And then you discussed 2003 USC...and then proceeded to use 2015 and 2017 USC (both of which failed to make a final four, regardless of how close you think they were) to attempt to prove that a 6-2 can win? I mean I don't even have to say anything you're kind of doing it for me. So thank you..
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Post by blue10 on Sept 23, 2024 12:08:14 GMT -5
In 2015 USC ran a modified 6-2 and was #1 before losing a heartbreaker to Kanas in the Regional final. In 2017 USC ran a 6-2 and had several match points on Florida at Florida to go to the final four and couldn't quite close it out. They were plenty good to beat that Florida team. Has the game changed IMMENSELY since 2017? you just used two teams who didn't even make a final four to punctuate a point that a 6-2 can win a title? Do you not remember the original post indicating no coach plans to win a title in a 6-2? And then you discussed 2003 USC...and then proceeded to use 2015 and 2017 USC (both of which failed to make a final four, regardless of how close you think they were) to attempt to prove that a 6-2 can win? I mean I don't even have to say anything you're kind of doing it for me. So thank you.. Pitt made the final four back to back with mostly 6-2 offenses. In 21 and 22
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Post by azsker on Sept 23, 2024 12:15:44 GMT -5
you just used two teams who didn't even make a final four to punctuate a point that a 6-2 can win a title? Do you not remember the original post indicating no coach plans to win a title in a 6-2? And then you discussed 2003 USC...and then proceeded to use 2015 and 2017 USC (both of which failed to make a final four, regardless of how close you think they were) to attempt to prove that a 6-2 can win? I mean I don't even have to say anything you're kind of doing it for me. So thank you.. Pitt made the final four back to back with mostly 6-2 offenses. In 21 and 22 ...but didn't win a title.
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Post by blue10 on Sept 23, 2024 12:24:52 GMT -5
Pitt made the final four back to back with mostly 6-2 offenses. In 21 and 22 ...but didn't win a title. there are teams every year who COULD win the title but don’t… it’s stil worth noting. You’re acting like it’s literally impossible. Also in 2017 Penn state wins the title in a 6-2 If their setter didn’t trip lol. Clearly that team was also good enough to win a title
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Post by B1GHuskerGuy on Sept 23, 2024 12:30:55 GMT -5
I think it was 2011 when Russ Rose literally busted out the 6-2 for the first time in the regional semifinal as the #16 seed playing against #1 Nebraska in Lincoln. They were up 2-0 and 24-22 before Neb went to a diff level and got used to defending the 6-2. The fact that the 6-2 can spring up on defenses and almost cause a massive upset is kinda proof that it can be useful and it just a last ditch effort. Even though in this example it kind of WAS a last-ditch effort. <3 2016 was the year, not 2011. Penn State actually went 6-2 in their entire match in the regular season that year against Nebraska, and then in the Regional Semis they were in a 6-2 only some of the time. A situational 6-2 if you will. The international double-sub is certainly a tool to have and can pay off situationally. I have been searching for this match on YouTube forever!! Can never find it.
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Post by volleyaudience on Sept 23, 2024 12:43:38 GMT -5
2016 was the year, not 2011. Penn State actually went 6-2 in their entire match in the regular season that year against Nebraska, and then in the Regional Semis they were in a 6-2 only some of the time. A situational 6-2 if you will. The international double-sub is certainly a tool to have and can pay off situationally. I have been searching for this match on YouTube forever!! Can never find it. Curious. What's the date of the match you are searching for?
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Post by B1GHuskerGuy on Sept 23, 2024 12:48:01 GMT -5
I have been searching for this match on YouTube forever!! Can never find it. Curious. What's the date of the match you are searching for? 2016 regional semi-final Penn state at Nebraska
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Post by Big 🔴 Energy on Sept 23, 2024 12:52:30 GMT -5
Curious. What's the date of the match you are searching for? 2016 regional semi-final Penn state at Nebraska big10+4 fan, hook a brutha up on G Drive. ^
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Post by oldnewbie on Sept 23, 2024 13:01:33 GMT -5
In 2015 USC ran a modified 6-2 and was #1 before losing a heartbreaker to Kanas in the Regional final. In 2017 USC ran a 6-2 and had several match points on Florida at Florida to go to the final four and couldn't quite close it out. They were plenty good to beat that Florida team. Has the game changed IMMENSELY since 2017? you just used two teams who didn't even make a final four to punctuate a point that a 6-2 can win a title? Do you not remember the original post indicating no coach plans to win a title in a 6-2? And then you discussed 2003 USC...and then proceeded to use 2015 and 2017 USC (both of which failed to make a final four, regardless of how close you think they were) to attempt to prove that a 6-2 can win? I mean I don't even have to say anything you're kind of doing it for me. So thank you.. "There are zero coaches who run a 6-2 with winning a national championship in mind" USC was #1 in 2015. You don't think they had "winning a national championship in mind"?
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Post by Resident Bitchy Canadian Fan on Sept 23, 2024 13:38:26 GMT -5
Lmao not to be *that guy* but did anyone else notice merritt’s second ace to get 14-5 in the second set didnt get counted as one
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Post by maigrey on Sept 23, 2024 14:13:16 GMT -5
you just used two teams who didn't even make a final four to punctuate a point that a 6-2 can win a title? Do you not remember the original post indicating no coach plans to win a title in a 6-2? And then you discussed 2003 USC...and then proceeded to use 2015 and 2017 USC (both of which failed to make a final four, regardless of how close you think they were) to attempt to prove that a 6-2 can win? I mean I don't even have to say anything you're kind of doing it for me. So thank you.. "There are zero coaches who run a 6-2 with winning a national championship in mind" USC was #1 in 2015. You don't think they had "winning a national championship in mind"? I mean, we are forgetting the obvious. Wisconsin went 6-2 in 2022 (ranked a #1 in the championship and knocked out in regional finals, where we forgot how to pass), and 2023 (ranked a #1 in the championship and knocked out in the final four by Texas, where we forgot how to pass). I can tell you that 100% Wisconsin was thinking national championship.
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