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Post by B1GHuskerGuy on Nov 11, 2024 15:46:20 GMT -5
AVCA voters are so lazy lol
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Post by babyhusker on Nov 11, 2024 15:51:09 GMT -5
My take is this - the usual inertia of the AVCA poll has set in. Voters are unwilling to make bold jumps. The biggest benefactor right now is the Big 12. Most of the Big 12 teams are getting credit for beating each other up. IMO either you think these Big 12 teams as a collective are impressive, or you don't. I'm more inclined to believe that the Big 12 as a collective are getting far too much credit this season. I think the following teams have set themselves apart from the others so far: Big 10: Nebraska, Wisconsin, Penn State ACC: Pitt, Louisville, SMU, (maybe Stanford) Creighton As a whole, I don't see any real difference between Big 12: ASU, Kansas, Baylor, TCU, Utah, BYU Big 10: Purdue, Oregon, Minnesota, USC, Washington, Illinois SEC: Kentucky, Texas, Florida, Missouri, Texas A&M, Tennessee ACC: Georgia Tech, FSU, Miami FL, North Carolina Yet all the Big 12 teams are ranked. I'm thinking that the conference is overrated, but I guess we'll see come tournament time (provided we get a balanced bracket) This is such a good and fair thought and I hadn’t considered it. I wonder how much of this is based on KU’s early win against Purdue and how much of that is a benchmark for the rest of the Big 12. Maybe TCU’s win against Minnesota? None of them have any statement wins. But you’re right, the “top” of the Big 12 probably fits into the second tier of the Big 10 and the ACC. At this point, BYU shouldn’t be ranked. |
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Post by storyteller on Nov 11, 2024 15:57:18 GMT -5
Also, Texas hasn’t even played 20 matches yet? Most teams have played 22+ already. Just a light schedule this year? Surprisingly, it's on par with recent seasons. Elliott doesn't like scheduling a ton of games. (I'm pretty sure he's said he wants FEWER conference games, but don't tell the Bracketology thread that 🙃) |
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Post by naujack85 on Nov 11, 2024 16:09:00 GMT -5
My take is this - the usual inertia of the AVCA poll has set in. Voters are unwilling to make bold jumps. The biggest benefactor right now is the Big 12. Most of the Big 12 teams are getting credit for beating each other up. IMO either you think these Big 12 teams as a collective are impressive, or you don't. I'm more inclined to believe that the Big 12 as a collective are getting far too much credit this season. I think the following teams have set themselves apart from the others so far: Big 10: Nebraska, Wisconsin, Penn State ACC: Pitt, Louisville, SMU, (maybe Stanford) Creighton As a whole, I don't see any real difference between Big 12: ASU, Kansas, Baylor, TCU, Utah, BYU Big 10: Purdue, Oregon, Minnesota, USC, Washington, Illinois SEC: Kentucky, Texas, Florida, Missouri, Texas A&M, Tennessee ACC: Georgia Tech, FSU, Miami FL, North Carolina Yet all the Big 12 teams are ranked. I'm thinking that the conference is overrated, but I guess we'll see come tournament time (provided we get a balanced bracket) Including SMU but only putting "maybe Stanford" when the Card swept them on the road? And also beat Wisoconsin on the road too. |
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Nov 11, 2024 16:17:00 GMT -5
Russ Rose was smokin' cigars and workin' the phones yesterday evening....
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 11, 2024 16:55:34 GMT -5
My take is this - the usual inertia of the AVCA poll has set in. Voters are unwilling to make bold jumps. The biggest benefactor right now is the Big 12. Most of the Big 12 teams are getting credit for beating each other up. IMO either you think these Big 12 teams as a collective are impressive, or you don't. I'm more inclined to believe that the Big 12 as a collective are getting far too much credit this season. I think the following teams have set themselves apart from the others so far: Big 10: Nebraska, Wisconsin, Penn State ACC: Pitt, Louisville, SMU, (maybe Stanford) Creighton As a whole, I don't see any real difference between Big 12: ASU, Kansas, Baylor, TCU, Utah, BYU Big 10: Purdue, Oregon, Minnesota, USC, Washington, Illinois SEC: Kentucky, Texas, Florida, Missouri, Texas A&M, Tennessee ACC: Georgia Tech, FSU, Miami FL, North Carolina Yet all the Big 12 teams are ranked. I'm thinking that the conference is overrated, but I guess we'll see come tournament time (provided we get a balanced bracket) Including SMU but only putting "maybe Stanford" when the Card swept them on the road? And also beat Wisoconsin on the road too. I feel like both SMU and Stanford are a bit hot and cold. Also, I'm not talking about "resume" per say, I'm talking about how these teams actually are performing right now. I don't consider Stanford winning against Wisconsin in Week 1 all that compelling when they are more recently losing matches to Miami, can barely get to 20 against Pitt and didn't take a set off Louisville. Wisconsin isn't the same team now that they were to start the season. Just to be clear, I'm not saying Stanford is bad, I just don't know if I put them in the same breath as teams like Nebraska or Pitt who have actually separated themselves from the 20 or so teams next mentioned, but I am inclined to be believe that Stanford and SMU are better than most of the 20 teams mentioned on any given night. FWIW, SMU is probably in that same unknown in my book. If I were to craft my top 10 right now, they are in it, but it's a soft top 10...like I wouldn't be surprised to see them take a loss to the next group of teams or that match be extremely close. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 11, 2024 17:03:59 GMT -5
It’s hard to be discounting early season results given they are the only inter-conference results we have, but in Wisconsin’s case there are some pretty substantial lineup changes (resolving the MESS at libero, Smrek being back and healthy) that make it really easy to point to Wisconsin not being the same team from September.
The rematch with Minnesota will do a lot for me to affirm that thinking.
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Post by dokterrudi on Nov 11, 2024 17:09:25 GMT -5
Stanford annihilated then #16 Georgia Tech and dropped to #7. Well. You lose by winning!! |
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Post by SportyBucky on Nov 11, 2024 17:10:40 GMT -5
Also thought Illinois might receive some votes, but I guess not. They were swept at home...easily |
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Post by SportyBucky on Nov 11, 2024 17:11:40 GMT -5
It’s hard to be discounting early season results given they are the only inter-conference results we have, but in Wisconsin’s case there are some pretty substantial lineup changes (resolving the MESS at libero, Smrek being back and healthy) that make it really easy to point to Wisconsin not being the same team from September. The rematch with Minnesota will do a lot for me to affirm that thinking. And the rematch with NE. I don't see that result 7 out of 10 times. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 11, 2024 17:13:56 GMT -5
It’s hard to be discounting early season results given they are the only inter-conference results we have, but in Wisconsin’s case there are some pretty substantial lineup changes (resolving the MESS at libero, Smrek being back and healthy) that make it really easy to point to Wisconsin not being the same team from September. The rematch with Minnesota will do a lot for me to affirm that thinking. I actually like that Polls are different than like ranking for Bracketology. I look at Wisconsin as two different teams in those contexts, and I think that's fair. |
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Post by dinonugs on Nov 11, 2024 17:15:43 GMT -5
BYU has got to go! There’s no world where they’re a top 25 team.
At this point I’m convinced the LDS are paying off the AVCA
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Post by 25or624 on Nov 11, 2024 17:16:52 GMT -5
It’s hard to be discounting early season results given they are the only inter-conference results we have, but in Wisconsin’s case there are some pretty substantial lineup changes (resolving the MESS at libero, Smrek being back and healthy) that make it really easy to point to Wisconsin not being the same team from September. The rematch with Minnesota will do a lot for me to affirm that thinking. The most exciting thing for me as a Badger fan is seeing Charlie and the hitters really getting into a groove. The more they play together, the better they get. That's a good place to be on 11/11/24:
Charlie Fuerbringer, Wisconsin
Fr. – S – Hermosa Beach, Calif. – Major: Real Estate
Helped the Badgers to a 2-0 week with a pair of 3-0 wins over No. 3 Penn State and Iowa
Fuerbringer recorded her sixth and seventh double-double of the season, tallying 32 assists and 12 digs vs. Iowa and 38 assists and 12 digs vs. Penn State
The freshman setter averaged 11.67 assists per set and 4.00 digs per set and chipped in defensively with 4.0 total blocks and four kills across the two matches
Fuerbringer cued a Wisconsin offense that hit .465 (50-3-101) against Penn State and .394 (42-5-94) against Iowa
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Post by NYCHusker on Nov 11, 2024 17:53:43 GMT -5
Also, Texas hasn’t even played 20 matches yet? Most teams have played 22+ already. Just a light schedule this year? Surprisingly, it's on par with recent seasons. Elliott doesn't like scheduling a ton of games. (I'm pretty sure he's said he wants FEWER conference games, but don't tell the Bracketology thread that 🙃) I've brought this up a few times here over the years and have gotten a lot of excuses about how tough they schedule. But Nebraska has 31 games on the schedule, compared to Texas' 24, and has 5 more ranked matches than Texas. I mean, maybe it's the extra rest that's allowed them to lift those trophies, but it still feels a bit cheap. (and before anyone comes for me, I'm not discounting Texas' talent or coaching) |
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Post by austintatious on Nov 11, 2024 17:53:57 GMT -5
GT went up one after being manhandled by stanford? am i reading that correctly? GT is just not the GT we have seen the past couple of years. Ranked too high. |
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