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Post by jwvolley on Nov 24, 2024 16:19:01 GMT -5
Kennedy Martin and Olivia Babcock as SOPHOMORES are absolutely lighting up the NCAA with their athleticism and power. These two are TRUE opposites and we freaking love to see it.
That said, if you could pick one, who would you go with and why?
Context:
Babcock 4.54 kps hitting .338 on the season for a loaded Pitt squad universally considered either the #1 or #2 team in the country. She also has 1.14 blocks per set as a pin blocker and has .71 aces per set, though a 21% error rate on serve to go with that so high risk high reward. Her total points per set is calculated at 5.87 as a result.
Martin only has .60 blocks per set (seems low for someone her height) and only .39 aces per set but with a much lower 10.6 % error rate. That said, her bread and butter is just SCORING. She is at 5.54 kps hitting .381 on the season. Her total points per set is at 6.25. She has had 9 matches this year with at least 20 kills.
Babcock plays on a dominant team so they typically don't extend the matches very long and she doesn't *need* to get 20+ kills but likely could.
Martin plays on a less dominant team with less consistent setting and she carries them. Everyone knows who the ball is going to and with more help she could probably be even more efficient which is crazy.
It's a fun conversation but wow it's exciting for fans of the sport to see these two be so incredible without even reaching the halfway point of their college careers yet.
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Post by gopherhim on Nov 24, 2024 16:25:21 GMT -5
They’re both incredible but Martin doing what she does without a Stafford-equivalent on her team is too hard to ignore.
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Post by gobigred95 on Nov 24, 2024 16:28:12 GMT -5
They’re both incredible but Martin doing what she does without a Stafford-equivalent on her team is too hard to ignore. Not to start anything but.. any chance she enters the portal? |
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Post by jwvolley on Nov 24, 2024 16:29:30 GMT -5
They’re both incredible but Martin doing what she does without a Stafford-equivalent on her team is too hard to ignore. Not to start anything but.. any chance she enters the portal? Probably better to leave that for the tea thread lol. I'm genuinely curious what ppl think in terms of this comparison. |
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Post by gobigred95 on Nov 24, 2024 16:32:20 GMT -5
Not to start anything but.. any chance she enters the portal? Probably better to leave that for the tea thread lol. I'm genuinely curious what ppl think in terms of this comparison. Lol fair! I voted Babcock but I totally understand either choice |
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Post by uofaGRAD on Nov 24, 2024 16:32:29 GMT -5
I feel like it depends. if I’m in a real life “fantasy” draft, I’m picking KMart every day and twice on Sundays. but if I have a great team already and am filling out my lineup, I’m picking Babcock every time. KMart can just get kills at such a high clip from anywhere and everywhere on the court, no matter who is setting her and no matter if the other team knows where the set is going. but Babcock is arguably the best server in the country and I would argue she’s one of the best blockers in the country as well. she could turn a good blocking team into an elite one in a way KMart can’t.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Nov 24, 2024 16:34:46 GMT -5
When did Martin return to the lineup? It’s hard to compare the two because she missed most of Florida’s matches against decent teams/ common opponents. Babcock blows Martin out of the water stats-wise against top 25 opponents but Martin may have been still nursing injuries.
Both have very high ceilings/are constantly improving but the lack of blocking and serving from Martin is concerning. I’d ideally prefer they both go pro after this year because they seem like our best options for LA.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Nov 24, 2024 16:36:44 GMT -5
When did Martin return to the lineup? It’s hard to compare the two because she missed most of Florida’s matches against decent teams/ common opponents. Babcock blows Martin out of the water stats-wise against top 25 opponents but Martin may have been still nursing injuries. Both have very high ceilings/are constantly improving but the lack of blocking and serving from Martin is concerning. I’d ideally prefer they both go pro after this year because they seem like are best options for LA. she missed 7 matches, with only one being a top 25 team |
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Post by jwvolley on Nov 24, 2024 16:39:31 GMT -5
When did Martin return to the lineup? It’s hard to compare the two because she missed most of Florida’s matches against decent teams/ common opponents. Babcock blows Martin out of the water stats-wise against top 25 opponents but Martin may have been still nursing injuries. Both have very high ceilings/are constantly improving but the lack of blocking and serving from Martin is concerning. I’d ideally prefer they both go pro after this year because they seem like our best options for LA. I mean, I wouldn't call it a "concerning lack of serving" from Martin. She has a lower error rate and has a 35 % opponent good pass rate on her serve which is very good. Babcock's serve is just bonkers but that's not the standard for "good / bad". |
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Post by VT Karen on Nov 24, 2024 16:39:45 GMT -5
Both are physical and skilled!
I would take Babcock. The numbers show that Martin scores at a slightly higher clip from an offensive standpoint (impressive for being the main weapon for the Gators) and she's a little less error prone. But Babcock is what I would call a "three-headed monster" in that she can score with her offense, defense and from behind the service line. This gives Olivia the ability to affect matches even if 1 or 2 parts of her game is off.
Some of the blocks and aces Babcock has gotten this season has demoralized Pitt opponents. Suffice to say, mama has more than one way to grab the bull by its horns.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Nov 24, 2024 16:49:56 GMT -5
I mean, I wouldn't call it a "concerning lack of serving" from Martin. She has a lower error rate and has a 35 % opponent good pass rate on her serve which is very good. Babcock's serve is just bonkers but that's not the standard for "good / bad". My evaluation is just going off how the serves would translate to international competition. Martin has a very good, if passive, NCAA serve. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 24, 2024 16:53:43 GMT -5
Isn’t Babcock comparatively raw experience-wise?
Regardless, she’s top of my draft board.
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Post by blue10 on Nov 24, 2024 16:55:05 GMT -5
Babcock because of what someone said she has way more ways to score and I do think if they needed her to she could drop 30 kills a bunch just not quite at the ridiculous efficiency of Martin but the serve and block are just too absurd to ignore because she’s also a fantastic attacker
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Nov 24, 2024 16:57:11 GMT -5
Isn’t Babcock comparatively raw experience-wise? Regardless, she’s top of my draft board. Played since she was young but only started club in 2021 because she was an elite goalkeeper in soccer. |
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Post by VT Karen on Nov 24, 2024 16:59:26 GMT -5
Isn’t Babcock comparatively raw experience-wise? Regardless, she’s top of my draft board. Played since she was young but only started club in 2021 because she was an elite goalkeeper in soccer. I didn't know that about Olivia! |
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