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Post by 2c on Dec 8, 2005 23:58:59 GMT -5
Finally you don't have to bet or speculate about your own attendance figures. Just look them up. (which you also should have done when you stated that Mason and Hittle were not playing in your loss to Loyola. You would think someone would remember one of their players having 26 kills and 15 digs) These were Mason's and Hittle's lines in the loss to LMU earlier this year: 17 Mason, Sarah........ 3| 5 5 18 .000| 0| 2 0| 1| 2| 0 0 0| 0 3 Hittle, Tara............. 3| 6 3 20 .150| 0| 0 2| 0| 7| 0 0 0| 0 I don't see any 26 kills or 15 digs for either one of them. What are you talking about? Just checked the 5 game, second night match and figured out that you're referring to Mason's line in that second match: 17 Mason, Sarah........ 5| 26 10 65 .246| 0| 0 3| 1| 15| 0 2 3| 0 Which is worse? Not looking something up? Or looking something up and then reading it wrong? Without checking, I'm not sure a player could take 65 swings in a 3 game sweep that wasn't very close. I'd recheck if I were you. (ouch)
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Post by GatorVball on Dec 9, 2005 0:04:22 GMT -5
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Post by lilred on Dec 9, 2005 0:14:24 GMT -5
Yes that's my fault. But when one continually makes less than complete or accurate statements I find it sometimes neccessary to remind them of it in hopes that they don't keep passing such information off as fact. Back to the main topic!
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Post by JT on Dec 9, 2005 0:49:41 GMT -5
What would the attendance be if Nebraska weren't likely to be in the Final Four (and ranked #1 through the season)? I know it would still be high, but would it be 13-14 thousand?
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Dec 9, 2005 0:59:04 GMT -5
I know this will irk a lot of VT fans, (hardcore VB fans) and rightly so, because of NU's success in the sport. It was easy to sell the country on the CWS cause Nebraska was never in it. This may not be so easy. Florida Head Coach Mary Wise Opening statement “All eyes are on Omaha this weekend. We’re talking about 13,000 pre-sale tickets. This is a different world. Credit Omaha, the University of Nebraska and this state for embracing volleyball. If they decided to put the Final Four here every year, I would be one coach who would be all for it. They’ve done it for baseball and if our mantra would be for years to come “let’s get to Omaha,” I think that would be a good thing for women’s volleyball.”How would giving Nebraska a homecourt advantage year after year (Provided they make it that far) be something that would be good for volleyball? Can someone please explain this to me. I'm disappointed in Coach Wise. I thought she was smarter than that.
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Post by pineapple on Dec 9, 2005 1:05:35 GMT -5
Well, It's still weighted towards the West- 2 against 1. Well not really. The record we broke for attendance was Madison's. (Wisconsin) So there would be another candidate. If I am not mistaken, there was no Wisconsin in that Final Four either. Although Penn St. was obviously. I am not going to get into childish arguements, I am just throwing it out there again as it came up today in the press conference by Wise and by extension the AVCA. Argument? I am not arguing. You threw it out, so it became an open discussion. As for argument, perhaps you are projecting.
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Post by bugman24 on Dec 9, 2005 1:15:49 GMT -5
I don't get this either. I don't see how it would help the sport. Sure more people as far as numbers might see the tournament but they would likely be the same people every year. Where as if it moves around more new people get to see the tournament. Plus the whole Nebraska having home court every time they make it to the final four, seems like an obvious problem to me.
I think if they really want to grow the sport do something about the TV coverage. I think that atleast the semifinals and finals should be live on ESPN/ESPN2. There is a golf channel how about a Volleyball channel? (I can dream right?)
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Post by lilred on Dec 9, 2005 1:21:52 GMT -5
I think if they really want to grow the sport do something about the TV coverage. I think that atleast the semifinals and finals should be live on ESPN/ESPN2. There is a golf channel how about a Volleyball channel? (I can dream right?) It will be interesting to see what ESPN or ESPN2 will be showing during these timeslots? 50th rerun of a WSOP event? I gather from the responses on this board about ESPNU, that it is even less available than CSTV? And at least CSTV showed an entire match. I think this is a good place to start as far as growing the sport. Show more matches from places like Hawaii, Washington, Madison, and Happy Valley. The attendance figures are right there. Pick those venues, show the rest of the country that people do like to watch volleyball. I mean if the hometown folk aren't even there then why would anyone else want to watch start watching?
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Post by pineapple on Dec 9, 2005 1:27:44 GMT -5
Hawaii's attendance average per match is about 3,000 more then Nebraska's. The 10,000 attendance figure was several years ago. Now I'll bet it may even exceed the 13,000 currently cited for Nebraska. This is not Nebraska's regular season attendance figures. As you well know ( or not either through ignorance or choosing to ignore it) NU only seats about 4200 because thats all it holds. I would think you are correct though on assuming you could get more than 13000. Nebraska is in fact pushing 14500 currently. But this arguement isn't going to be just about attendance, but about costs, travel considerations, etc. Finally you don't have to bet or speculate about your own attendance figures. Just look them up. (which you also should have done when you stated that Mason and Hittle were not playing in your loss to Loyola. You would think someone would remember one of their players having 26 kills and 15 digs) You didn't read this thread from the beginning. The 13,000 refers to tickest sold for the regional.
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Post by pineapple on Dec 9, 2005 1:28:51 GMT -5
And the 10,000 refers to the current record in Hawaii.
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Post by pineapple on Dec 9, 2005 1:32:52 GMT -5
What would the attendance be if Nebraska weren't likely to be in the Final Four (and ranked #1 through the season)? I know it would still be high, but would it be 13-14 thousand? of course not. Nothing unusual about that.
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Post by lilred on Dec 9, 2005 2:22:11 GMT -5
Hawaii's attendance average per match is about 3,000 more then Nebraska's. The 10,000 attendance figure was several years ago. Now I'll bet it may even exceed the 13,000 currently cited for Nebraska. You didn't read this thread from the beginning. Ok, if in fact you were referring to the Regional attendance figures. What does Hawaii's attendance average per match is about 3,000 more then Nebraska's.? have to do with that Regional attendance figures. No one mentioned anything about 10000 anywhere from the previous posts. So I had no idea what you were referring to (as someone else also pointed out). And the 10,000 refers to the current record in HawaiiCurrent Hawaii record? Because its not the current NCAA record nor even a tourney record. Its listed as 13th or so in 1999 for the Final. And it wasn't a record at the time because Madison, WI had set the record in 1998. Now I'll bet it may even exceed the 13,000 currently cited for Nebraska. I actually was going to agree with you on this. In that a regional could exceed 13000 because I know you have a huge following. Then remembering previous inaccurate posts I looked up the SSC and found this: The SSC can hold 10,300 fans, which makes it one of the largest facilities in the Western Athletic Conference. So on this issue where would you put the extra 3000 people or so. Or did you expand capacity? Or are you assuming they will expand capacity in the future?
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Post by pineapple on Dec 9, 2005 2:24:49 GMT -5
Hawaii's attendance average per match is about 3,000 more then Nebraska's. The 10,000 attendance figure was several years ago. Now I'll bet it may even exceed the 13,000 currently cited for Nebraska. You didn't read this thread from the beginning. like I said about projection. You are the one to argue. Ok, if in fact you were referring to the Regional attendance figures. What does Hawaii's attendance average per match is about 3,000 more then Nebraska's.? have to do with that Regional attendance figures. No one mentioned anything about 10000 anywhere from the previous posts. So I had no idea what you were referring to (as someone else also pointed out). And the 10,000 refers to the current record in HawaiiCurrent Hawaii record? Because its not the current NCAA record nor even a tourney record. Its listed as 13th or so in 1999 for the Final. And it wasn't a record at the time because Madison, WI had set the record in 1998. Now I'll bet it may even exceed the 13,000 currently cited for Nebraska. I actually was going to agree with you on this. In that a regional could exceed 13000 because I know you have a huge following. Then remembering previous inaccurate posts I looked up the SSC and found this: The SSC can hold 10,300 fans, which makes it one of the largest facilities in the Western Athletic Conference. So on this issue where would you put the extra 3000 people or so. Or did you expand capacity? Or are you assuming they will expand capacity in the future? You are the one to argue, don't you see what you are leading me into?
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Post by 2c on Dec 9, 2005 2:28:44 GMT -5
You are the one to argue, don't you see what you are leading me into? Reality?
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Post by pineapple on Dec 9, 2005 2:46:12 GMT -5
Little redriding hood goona got bitten. Hi, 2c what did you have for dinner tonight?
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