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Post by pineapple on Dec 9, 2005 2:48:26 GMT -5
I was just gonna suggest you gobble up lilred.
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 9, 2005 10:25:19 GMT -5
This is completely beside the point but..... food for thought... I live in a town less than 1000 people in western Nebraska.... 6.5 hours from Omaha. In every day of converstation someone brings up the Final Four in Omaha next year. At least 20 families from our town have made plans to attend... At least 20 to 25.( probably 50 tickets) have been purchased by fans here for the Regionals. Our players are celebrities. If Houghtelling, Elmer, or Pavan showed up on our pitiful little main str....their would be a stampede. I talked to a gentlemen in Gretna yesterday..... My guesss he is about 79. We had a lengthy discussion about the team and Elmer and Sale..... Make a long story short...... The Huskers love Volleyball. It is in the fabric and soul of our citizens old and young. The best gift I can give my neices for Christmas??? NU volleyball shirts. I drink out of a husker vb cup. My greatest treasure is a shirt signed by this years team.... We support our team in mass's and yes we would also attend a final four without our team. Remember Nacwaa when we werent playing. Hawaii and Nebraska should be celebrated. It is really inexplainable why our states fans support volleyball to that extent. I am very greedy and would love the final four to be in Omaha every year and yes we would sell the place out every year. Every great volleyball team deserves to play in front of that huge roaring crowd and every great coach deserves that credit and recognition for their efforts. It is volleyball at its very best.
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Post by Thrill of the 'ville on Dec 9, 2005 11:14:55 GMT -5
College World Series. (baseball) It's Omaha's biggest sporting event. Remember we have no professional teams to distract us. It really is one of the great NCAA championships. Omaha has hosted the event for over 50 years. Anybody will tell you that it is run very well. In some ways its similiar to VB. Normally players play in front of a few thousand. (if they are lucky, which would be about 15 schools) But when they come to Rosenblatt they play in front of 18000 plus for EACH session. Its a week long affair. This is WITHOUT Nebraska in it. You can imagine the chaos when Nebraska is as they have been the last few years. Yeah it really is a cool atmosphere. I went when my cousin played for Tulane a few years ago and it was a really good time. That city becomes kinda cool for a week until it gets boring again. As for my opinon on Omaha being the permanent home (because I know you all want to know my opinion) is that I'm sort of torn. I understand that by putting it in a place that is known for big crowds is good for the sport but when it does grow bigger in other parts of the country it won't be so easy to pull it out of there. I like how it moves from city to city because that makes it so that one team doesn't get home team advantage year after year (if they make the final four year after year) I think we should run it like the NFL or college football: pick a few different places and cycle the championship between them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2005 11:22:43 GMT -5
There are a couple of big differences in between the CWS and the final four. One being the amount of time the event takes--3 days as opposed to over a week. Two being the number of teams that are involved.
Things in my mind that are irrevellant are the weather. I'm sorry but the athletes don't play outside. If this were in Hawaii(which I would LOVE if I could afford to go yearly) it's not like the athletes would spend tons of time on the beach or out fishing, etc. They are there to win a championship not to be on vacation. I also don't see the athletes walking tons of miles to any place outside in the elements.
Year in year and year out ESPN refers to the CWS one of the premier sporting events in the country because of what the city of Omaha has done. The athletes and teams are treated like kings from the moment they step off the plane until they leave. Win or lose.
I think what the NCAA likes about this potential of a site is what a class event that could be had, rain or snow.
If Omaha, or a city like it could generate an enthusiasm like no other for a few years and the rest of the country made to notice how can the sport not benefit from this?? If that means a school gets some sort of advantage for an amount of time is that a small price to pay?? I'm not convinced given the parity in women's volleyball that this hands the University of Nebraska unlimited access to trophies or championships.
I think we are kidding ourselves that large warm weather cities outside of Honolulu are going to automatically embrace this event because we want to go someplace warm.
Today's Omaha World Herald reported that supposedly the NCAA is looking for permanent host sites for all events except men's basketball.
It may ultimately boil down to money. Time will tell.
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Post by 808 on Dec 9, 2005 11:33:50 GMT -5
How's about an annual rotation between Omaha and Honolulu?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2005 11:35:46 GMT -5
Works for me!!!
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Post by lilred on Dec 9, 2005 12:09:06 GMT -5
How's about an annual rotation between Omaha and Honolulu? I like the idea of rotating between proven winners. Utlimately what we want is full arenas for the girls and to showcase the enthusiasm for the sport. Omaha, Honolulu, Madison, any other ideas? Say five permanant rotating spots? What would they be. I have 3 here.
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 9, 2005 13:25:51 GMT -5
... The best gift I can give my neices for Christmas??? NU volleyball shirts. I drink out of a husker vb cup. ... Send me a Nebraska Volleyball shirt.
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Post by pineapple on Dec 9, 2005 13:56:44 GMT -5
The Pro Bowl is a classic example of the likes for Honolulu. Everytime the contract terminates, there's pressure from all angles to renew, especially rom players wives. Of course, it's quite different, they can afford to come here. Still, Honolulu/Hawaii being one of the most beautiful places in the world could definitely be a top contender. The matches here draw by far the most people. Someone pointed out SSC can seat only a little over 10,000. Well, there is the City's center, the Neal Blaisdell Center which can seat much more. This where the NBA plays when it comes to town. UH, backed by the State, could finance a significant portion of the cost. Fans from the mainland, as well as the players if designed and coordinated well, would have the benefit of a regular vacation in Paradise. Thus, the three losing teams would still enjoy themselves. Omaha, especially in winter is depressing for losing teams and their fans.
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Post by pineapple on Dec 9, 2005 14:03:19 GMT -5
Let me add to what i just said about drawing people. Annually, more than 7 million visitors come to Hawaii. Many are fans of the competing schools in the final four. Thus, they're already here. Or they could even coordinate their trip to hawaii to coincide with the games. I do this when I schedule my two annual trips to Vegas. I try to build them around the games hawaii are scheduled to play against the Rebels.
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Post by silversurfer on Dec 9, 2005 14:10:00 GMT -5
I personally wouldn't mind going to Hawaii every year, but the cost would keep programs with not very deep pockets from sending their coaches. Not many high school or club coaches would be able to attend, either, at least not every year.
Rotating between spots would be cool.
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Post by pineapple on Dec 9, 2005 14:12:25 GMT -5
I personally wouldn't mind going to Hawaii every year, but the cost would keep programs with not very deep pockets from sending their coaches. Not many high school or club coaches would be able to attend, either, at least not every year. Rotating between spots would be cool. I agree with you. I just oppose to the final 4 being stuck in Omaha.
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Post by ugopher on Dec 9, 2005 15:06:53 GMT -5
Disadvantages to holding the championships in Hawaii on a perm or semi-perm basis: 1. Travel logisitics - no matter where the championships are held on the mainland people would be able to drive to the site 2. Airfares - similar to #1 flights to Hawaii may not be as advantageous as some sites on the mainland, both in terms of price and availability 3. Accomondations - I will admit that I am ignorant on this subject but I would imagine that hotel prices in Hawaii are slightly high than in San Antonio, Omaha, Sacramento, etc. 4. Game times - if we do want to try and build the sport via television you would need to start the semi-finals at what time in Hawaii to make sure that the matches could be seen on the mainland - 1:00? Same for the championship match
Hawaii in December would be great. However, I think the location would greatly limit exposure to primarily those living on the island.
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Post by TheRange on Dec 9, 2005 16:20:47 GMT -5
Obviously Hawaii would be a great destination for the final four. The issue would be cost. I think the downside to having it in Omaha would be the weather. Both sites would give their home schools an unfair advantage for either the Huskers or Wahine. I personally wouldn't mind going to either, just not every year. The current system is nice with the rotating cities, it's just that you need to find cities that can ensure a gate. Omaha and Hawaii can both do that (although the Pro Bowl doesn't exactly pack 'em in).
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Post by OverAndUnder on Dec 9, 2005 18:56:53 GMT -5
Regional semi and the stands are barely 40% full.
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