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Post by lilred on Dec 18, 2005 14:07:30 GMT -5
I remember reading that article and thought nothing of it. I felt she was referring to her competition in general which would have been nothing more than showing confidenc. I was highly suprised to find it in the Omaha World Herald and then basically the paper creating a story out of nothing. As I said before Houghteling was just receiving info and it wasn't her job to find the article and analyze it.
I am highly disappointed not only with the Nebraska media for making a lot out of nothing but also Heather Cox? I thought I heard her say that there was "bad" blood between the players. I love John B and Mendenhall but they also ran with that story the night of the semi-finals. There was so much evidence to the contrary, even today's Lincoln Journal Star showed contrary evidence. I hope we can find more positive means to promote the sport apart from "creating" rivalries. On the other hand I suppose if that gets the sport coverage than like Hollywood says "Bad Press is Better than No Press"
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Post by PukaPants on Dec 18, 2005 14:17:10 GMT -5
Sanja on being quoted earlier in the year as saying Washington could "crush" Nebraska if they met ...
"I think I was misquoted there. If you know anything about our team, you know we never look ahead. And I am sure I never talked about Nebraska, and if they did ask me about Nebraska, I know I said we're looking forward to USC, UCLA or whoever. That quote was before the UCLA match. I said if we played the way we play and control the thing we know we can control, we would crush UCLA. And I stand behind that. Nebraska is a strong team and I am looking forward to playing them."
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What does it matter anyway? Even if it wasn't directed towards Nebraska, UW ended up crushing them, so go figure.
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Post by beachman on Dec 18, 2005 14:17:14 GMT -5
I remember reading that article and thought nothing of it. I felt she was referring to her competition in general which would have been nothing more than showing confidenc. I was highly suprised to find it in the Omaha World Herald and then basically the paper creating a story out of nothing. As I said before Houghteling was just receiving info and it wasn't her job to find the article and analyze it. I am highly disappointed not only with the Nebraska media for making a lot out of nothing but also Heather Cox? I thought I heard her say that there was "bad" blood between the players. I love John B and Mendenhall but they also ran with that story the night of the semi-finals. There was so much evidence to the contrary, even today's Lincoln Journal Star showed contrary evidence. I hope we can find more positive means to promote the sport apart from "creating" rivalries. On the other hand I suppose if that gets the sport coverage than like Hollywood says "Bad Press is Better than No Press" Reminds me of Madison in 1998! Are we reporting the news or creating the news?
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Dec 18, 2005 15:04:36 GMT -5
I remember reading that article and thought nothing of it. I felt she was referring to her competition in general which would have been nothing more than showing confidenc. I was highly suprised to find it in the Omaha World Herald and then basically the paper creating a story out of nothing. As I said before Houghteling was just receiving info and it wasn't her job to find the article and analyze it. I am highly disappointed not only with the Nebraska media for making a lot out of nothing but also Heather Cox? I thought I heard her say that there was "bad" blood between the players. I love John B and Mendenhall but they also ran with that story the night of the semi-finals. There was so much evidence to the contrary, even today's Lincoln Journal Star showed contrary evidence. I hope we can find more positive means to promote the sport apart from "creating" rivalries. On the other hand I suppose if that gets the sport coverage than like Hollywood says "Bad Press is Better than No Press" Reminds me of Madison in 1998! Are we reporting the news or creating the news? Speaking of 1998, we're still waiting on LBSU for the traditional post-match handshakes demonstrating character and good sportsmanship. Get on that, beachdork.
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Post by tomclen on Dec 18, 2005 15:06:38 GMT -5
(From Sunday's Seattle Times):
Crush this
A lot was made during the Final Four about a comment attributed to Tomasevic about "crushing" an opponent. Nebraska coach John Cook pointed it out to his players, believing Tomasevic referred to the Cornhuskers. Tomasevic says it involved UCLA and repeated that assertion Saturday night.
"But now I can say out loud: We crushed Nebraska," she said. "So now they can put it up on their lockers, and I hope they get excited for next year."
Tomasevic says she got a cold shoulder from one of them during the traditional postgame handshake at the net.
"Sarah Pavan didn't want to put her hand out, and she didn't shake Christal's hand, either," she said.
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Post by tomclen on Dec 18, 2005 15:11:09 GMT -5
I think Cook tried to make a motivational mountain out of a phony molehill. It worked. Only problem is, it motivated the wrong team. The Huskies heard about it Thursday, Friday and Saturday and I think it just fired them up more.
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Post by chrisreed on Dec 18, 2005 15:22:21 GMT -5
It was a nice thrill to see his facial expressions in the remaining points of the third set. What a joy!!
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Post by Keystonekid on Dec 18, 2005 18:17:45 GMT -5
Tomasevic made a generic comment about crushing opponents, like every sport fortunate enough to have media, coverage, a coach used it for motivational purposes. That stuff is for fun,more than anything. When Houghtelling made a comment regarding how it fired Nebraska up, Tomasevic actually sent an email to Houghtelling expressing no disrespect. Again lots of comments from people who don't know any or all of the facts. IMHO Tomasevic comments after winning are a little classless, she should have won with more dignity. I'm not sure about the whole handshake business, but keep in mind Nebraska was just devasted seconds earlier, anyone, and I mean anyone, who has ever come within a mile of Pavan, knows she is as fine a young person as you will ever meet. The cold shoulder could very well of been a "dazed" or heartbroken player. Saying you loved the look on the Nebraska players faces makes me sick, you have no regard for the beauty of competition. Chrisreed has never been a part of the joy of winning, or the heartbreak of losing such an event. To enjoy or celebrate someones struggles is obscene.
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Post by lilred on Dec 18, 2005 20:15:12 GMT -5
This post was meant to point out the irresponsibility of the media again in stirring something up. It was not meant as another chance to take cheap shots, but do what you must. Also while Sarah Pavan did not shake hands and it came off as rude, this is her emotions showing. It was towards the end of the line and she just simply turned to her own teammates for the traditional end of game huddle. Was it a mistake not to shake everyone's hand. Yes. It happens.
I also know many people are ragging on Christina H that she won the POY. I am assuming the Husky fans felt Tomasavich should have won. Which would have also been a good choice by the way. However, except for her attack average, her stats were actually very similiar to Sanja's in that game. I don't know how you can keep battering a person who obviously makes friends easily as the above "exchange of e-mails" shows. She is a class act. She must have made some good friendships with her time spent on the A-2 team because she has hugged opposing players after the NACWAA and Regional Finals.
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Post by dishdaball on Dec 18, 2005 20:29:22 GMT -5
Wow - comments are constantly taken out of context but it appears not here. Congrats to Washington on a great victory. Now my 2 cents...
Win or lose one should ALWAYS shake hands after competition. Even if the other person is behaving in a manner perceived rude. No one can know what was said or what happened but if in the spirit of competition - a hand shake at the end is a must.
Congrats to C.Houghtelling - you definitely deserved POY.
Congrats to Sonya - comment as you want and then go home. It's a shame to hear some of these comments from her. The majority of the girls on that team are a class act and she does not represent them.
Congrats to Sarah Pavan - you had a great run but please be a good sport and if you couldn't shake hands on Saturday then learn from this and show a little more maturity in the future.
( as I said only those there know what really happened so I'm just commenting on the speculation)
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Post by beachman on Dec 18, 2005 20:35:49 GMT -5
Reminds me of Madison in 1998! Are we reporting the news or creating the news? Speaking of 1998, we're still waiting on LBSU for the traditional post-match handshakes demonstrating character and good sportsmanship. Get on that, beachdork. I will jump right on it, whatever it is you are referring to?
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Post by reiker21 on Dec 18, 2005 20:41:58 GMT -5
Wow - comments are constantly taken out of context but it appears not here. Congrats to Washington on a great victory. Now my 2 cents... Win or lose one should ALWAYS shake hands after competition. Even if the other person is behaving in a manner perceived rude. No one can know what was said or what happened but if in the spirit of competition - a hand shake at the end is a must. Congrats to C.Houghtelling - you definitely deserved POY. Congrats to Sonya - comment as you want and then go home. It's a shame to hear some of these comments from her. The majority of the girls on that team are a class act and she does not represent them. Congrats to Sarah Pavan - you had a great run but please be a good sport and if you couldn't shake hands on Saturday then learn from this and show a little more maturity in the future. ( as I said only those there know what really happened so I'm just commenting on the speculation)
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Post by reiker21 on Dec 18, 2005 20:45:19 GMT -5
Give Pavon and the other Nebraska players a break. That was more disappointing than most of us can imagine. Tomasaivic is 25 years old, which is four to five years old than the majority of the players. That is a huge difference at that age. Besides the fact the Tomasavic whinned to the refs more than any player for the last two seasons.
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Post by roofed! on Dec 18, 2005 20:48:23 GMT -5
Give Pavon and the other Nebraska players a break. That was more disappointing than most of us can imagine. Tomasaivic is 25 years old, which is four to five years old than the majority of the players. That is a huge difference at that age. Besides the fact the Tomasavic whinned to the refs more than any player for the last two seasons. I know she is young, but Pavan shouldn't have turned her shoulder away from Tomasevic and Morrison. She should be more graceful in losing. At the same time, Tomasevic shouldn't be sprouting off comments like she did. She should have been more graceful in winning.
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Post by dishdaball on Dec 18, 2005 20:51:17 GMT -5
Just commenting - no excuses seem really necessary. Just glad they are human beings that can learn from mistakes. Yes one could argue that Sonya is older but she obviously is not too much wiser - just happened to be a part of the winning team on Saturday!
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