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Post by BOTE on Apr 25, 2006 17:30:38 GMT -5
Happened to pick up a back issue of Volleyball Magazine. The players chosen were ranked in this issue in order of impact they were expected to make in college volleyball for the next 4 fours. Most of these are now graduating or have completed their elgibility. Just goes to show that all the importance put on Fab 50 players does not necessarily mean great success at the collegiate level. Some were injured, others transfered, some peaked early and some truely excelled. Most of these young ladies will go on to make contributions in something other than volleyball.
#1 Bre Ladd 6'1" RS Arizona #2 Kim Glass 6'3" MB Arizona #3 Katie Goldhahn 5'10" S Stanford #4 Samantha Tortorello 5'11" S Penn State #5 Courtney Schultz MB 6'1" Stanford #6 Jennifer Abernathy 5'11" OH Arizona #7 Stacy Venski 6'3" OH USC #8 Katy Daly 6'0" OH Pepperdine #9 Sheila Shaw 6'1" MB Wisconsin #10Susie Boogaard 6'2" MB Hawaii #11Amy Morris 6'0" OH Penn State #12Breegan Mulligan 6'0" OH Pepperdine #13Sidney Bennett 6'0" MB Pacific #14Rachel Engel 5'8" S Florida #15Caron Blotch 6'0" S Texas #16Olivia Waldowski 6'3" MB Nebraska #17Laura Jones 6'3" OH Texas A&M #18Tess Rogers 6'0" OH Colorado State #19Haley Jorgensberg 5'10" S UCLA #20Dani Nyenhuis 6'0" OH North Carolina #21Lindsey Hunter 5'9" S Missouri #22Jane Colleymore 6'0" OH Florida #23Meg Griffin 6'1" M Illinois #24Drew Hays 6'0" OH Colorado #25Liz Tomascovic 5'11" OH Rice #26Meg Henican 5'11" Notre Dame #27Nancy Barba 6'1" MB UCLA #28Lauren Ford 6'2" MB Wisconsin #29Missy Mehlhorn 5'8" S Pepperdine #30Amanda Miller 5'10 OH Ohio State #31Cayle Thurlyby 5'10" S Hawaii #32Megan Blackshire 6'1" MB UCSB #33Cassie Perret 6'0" Santa Clara #34Megan Cumpston 6'1" OH Arizona #35Robin Miramontes 6'1" RS Long Beach State #36Lauren Brewster 6'2" MB Notre Dame #37 Jennifer Randall 5'11" OH Georgia Tech #38 Lindsey Sherburne 5'10' S San Diego #39 Kim Holm 6'1" MB Penn State #40Nicole Carr 6'0" OH Colorado #41Michelle Kaufmann 6'2" MB Penn #42Kelsey Fautsch 6'1" OH Nebraka #43Meagan Welch 6'1" MB Georgia #44Renata Dargan 5'11" S Purdue #45Jodi Bell 5'9" S Oregon #46Marie Franke 6'1" OH Purdue #47Blair Moon 6'0" RS Georgia Tech #48Shannon Parker 5'11" S Cincinnati #49Jenna Jordan 6'2' MB Utah State #50Beth Haberli 5'7" DS Wisconsin
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Post by Wolfgang on Apr 25, 2006 18:21:14 GMT -5
I'm sure Volleyball Magazine and others similarly situated don't give a rat's ass so long as they can continue to generate lists, ANY lists, year in and year out. They've got a tradition to uphold. Lists like these should be treated as jumping-off points for lively discussions, and NOT as the final word on volleyball talent and collegiate impact. I mean, the names on these lists represent real young women and if you know anything about the emotional flux of women in general, you know what I'm talking about when I say...UNpredictable. If you really were good at predictions, you should play the stock market or the craps table at Vegas, not idling by reading volleyball message boards and ogling girls in spandex. Every minute spent here represents $$$ and brain cells forever lost. It's true.
Having said that, there are girls on the list who made significant impact with their respective collegiate teams, even though they were barely a blip on the national radar screen. And the others...eh...it just wasn't meant to be.
I was once a highly regarded soccer player in high school. I'm sure I disappointed a number of people in college. Excuse me, I have to go cry...
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Post by cruncher on Apr 25, 2006 18:26:17 GMT -5
Decaf, Wolfie, decaf.
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Post by bigfan on Apr 25, 2006 18:32:00 GMT -5
..................these lists represent real young women and if you know anything about the emotional flux of women in general, you know what I'm talking about when I say...UNpredictable. If you really were good at predictions, you should play the stock market or the craps table at Vegas.....................
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Post by Wolfgang on Apr 25, 2006 18:39:41 GMT -5
Hey, you can't do that without a QUOTE box. Dammit!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2006 22:55:52 GMT -5
I'm sure Volleyball Magazine and others similarly situated don't give a rat's ass so long as they can continue to generate lists, ANY lists, year in and year out. They've got a tradition to uphold. Lists like these should be treated as jumping-off points for lively discussions, and NOT as the final word on volleyball talent and collegiate impact. I mean, the names on these lists represent real young women and if you know anything about the emotional flux of women in general, you know what I'm talking about when I say...UNpredictable. If you really were good at predictions, you should play the stock market or the craps table at Vegas, not idling by reading volleyball message boards and ogling girls in spandex. Every minute spent here represents $$$ and brain cells forever lost. It's true. Having said that, there are girls on the list who made significant impact with their respective collegiate teams, even though they were barely a blip on the national radar screen. And the others...eh...it just wasn't meant to be. I was once a highly regarded soccer player in high school. I'm sure I disappointed a number of people in college. Excuse me, I have to go cry... Me thinks you doth protest too much. Some of us no doubt practice our predicting skills on this board to more finely hone our models for real life investing. Minutes spent here may also stimulate brain cells. Anyone wanting to resort to gambling to increase net worth has already been seriously fragged in the brain cells that count. Furthermore, some of us no doubt are more interested in VB and other pursuits that are not intended to maximize monetary gains and are indifferent to spending time attaining greater wealth. That being said, the 2002 Volleyball Magazine Fab 50 was quite good as a list. This past year, eight (seven excluding Sanja who, being in high school in a different country, was not eligible for the Fab 50 list) of the AVCA 12 first team All-Americans were seniors. Six of those seven first team AAs were on the Fab 50 list: #2 Kim Glass, #4 Sam Tortorello, #17 Laura Jones, #21 Lindsey Hunter, #22 Jane Collymore and #33 Cassie Perret. Unranked Melissa Elmer was the most over-achieving of these seven. And some of these even made first team AA in spite of their own coaches efforts to promote their personal favorites over them. What were the odds of that happening, Wolfie?
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Post by SakiBomb25 on Apr 25, 2006 23:25:57 GMT -5
And don't forget, Lindsey Sherburne was an All-American as a junior in 2004.
I think it's a pretty good list overall - not necessarily in terms of listed impact, per se, but just in general as 50 athletes in general.
I also think that this class was rather weak in terms of talent compared to other classes and that's probably why a lot of the names don't pop up at you and go "Wow, I remember her."
Melissa Elmer wasn't apart of this year's graduating high school seniors. She redshirted her freshman year at Nebraska, so she would have been in the Class of 2001, though I do not know if she was listed as a Fab 50.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2006 0:38:36 GMT -5
And don't forget, Lindsey Sherburne was an All-American as a junior in 2004. I think it's a pretty good list overall - not necessarily in terms of listed impact, per se, but just in general as 50 athletes in general. I also think that this class was rather weak in terms of talent compared to other classes and that's probably why a lot of the names don't pop up at you and go "Wow, I remember her." Melissa Elmer wasn't apart of this year's graduating high school seniors. She redshirted her freshman year at Nebraska, so she would have been in the Class of 2001, though I do not know if she was listed as a Fab 50. I was unaware that Elmer was a RS freshman in 2002; her Nebraska bio doesn't state she was a Fab 50, so I still give her the overachiever award though technically she was not a 2002 HS grad. Lindsey Sherburne was one of the best setters the WCC put out, but she was never named first team AA. Roz Pelayo and Kelli Sousa deserved to be and would have been no-brainer AA's if their coach/program would have supported them.
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Post by SaltNPepper on Apr 26, 2006 7:17:48 GMT -5
OK, who's got a copy of the back issue of Volleyball Magazine's that contained the list of 2003 Fab 50's. It would be interesting to see how that list of seniors are doing as we approach 2006.
You've got to be pretty impressed with their 2002 list.
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Post by kolohekeiki on Apr 26, 2006 9:26:29 GMT -5
Here's the list from 2003...alphabetically though not by predicted impact...
2003 Fab 50 Jen Andrews- Texas Alicia Arnott- Hawai`i Lindsey Baler- Wisconsin Kristina Baum- Arizona Amy Beaver- North Carolina Amy Bladow- Wisconsin Sarah Blum- Tennessee Kelly Bowman- Minnesota Stephanie Butkus- Arizona Katie Carter- UCLA Samantha Carter- California Jessica Curtis- Texas Meg Eckert- North Carolina Amanda Fox- California Kimi Freeburg- USC Becky Green- UCLA Sarah Hale- Georgia Tech Christi Hahn- Texas A&M Tealle Hunkus- Duke Jennifer Hynds- Illinois Joselyn Johnson- Tennessee Rachell Johnson- UCLA Kanoe Kamana`o- Hawai`i Erica Lott- BYU Colby Lyman- UCLA Megan MacDonald- Illinois Heather Madison- Oregon Brandy Magee- Texas Marissa Main- Ohio State Dani Mancuso- Nebraska Kristin McClune- Pepperdine Amber McCray- Florida Michelle Mellard- Stanford Sophia Milo- Pepperdine Jania Motton- Loyola Marymount Stevie Mussie- Pacific Meredith Nelson- Minnesota Ashley Nu`u- Colorado Katelyn Panzau- South Carolina Danielle Pflum- Michigan Julie Purcell- Northwestern Kristin Richards- Stanford Cassy Salyer- Penn State Abby Showers- Georgia Tech Courtney Thompson- Washington Jenn Todd- Washington State Laura Tomes- Oklahoma Natalie Uhart- Long Beach State Jessica Vander Kooi- Missouri Cassie Wolpern- San Diego
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Post by bigfan on Apr 26, 2006 10:03:52 GMT -5
..................these lists represent real young women and if you know anything about the emotional flux of women in general, you know what I'm talking about when I say...UNpredictable. If you really were good at predictions, you should play the stock market or the craps table at Vegas..................... As told to me by Wolfgang
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Post by Gorf on Apr 26, 2006 12:20:45 GMT -5
A bit of a nit on the 2003 list, however, Marisa Main originally attended Xavier then transferred to Ohio State as a soph.
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Post by Wolfgang on Apr 26, 2006 14:01:56 GMT -5
Me thinks you doth protest too much. You take me too seriously. I post for the sake of posting.
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Post by UCSBVball on Apr 26, 2006 15:31:33 GMT -5
Wolfgang, I drink sake before posting - it is much more fun ;D
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Post by romeo on Apr 26, 2006 15:49:46 GMT -5
And some of these even made first team AA in spite of their own coaches efforts to promote their personal favorites over them. This kind of thing drives me baaaatttttty! These are coaches that don't get the 'chemistry' thing. The team members know who's really deserving of props, though. Funny thing is, then the coach wants 'respect', and has trouble getting it from his/her team. ha
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