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Post by 5100 on Aug 31, 2006 18:44:25 GMT -5
KAH-no-ay kah-mah-NAH-o
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Post by standingroomonly1 on Aug 31, 2006 20:18:08 GMT -5
One of my all time favorite setters (Dianne Ratnik) was a former Canadian National team player. Audrey Flaugh (Di Pronio) formerly of Ohio State and All American and now commentator (one of the better ones) for Fox Sports is from just outside Toronto, too. Gabrielle Jobst, not a setter but great OSU player, AA and pro player--Ontario.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Aug 31, 2006 20:23:22 GMT -5
Success is a team accomplisment, not an individual accomplishment. Few would disagree with Sam T being one of the best setters in the Country during her collegiate career and yet as good as she was, she never lead the Nittany Lions to the Final four. You know how some things just continue to bug you--though they may not seem really that important in the grand scheme of things?? It really irks me everytime a see an American post on VT about "anyone" who couldn't "lead her team to a Final Four." With 6 players on the floor at a time and obviously at least 6 on the roster, no one person should be held accountable because the other 5 on the floor didn't, as a team, get to the Final Four. Hence, the term "team game." (Nothing personal BIK, you just struck a nerve and I had to get that out). You'll really find in Canada that it is really more openly discussed as a team game and a loss or shortcoming is the end result of the team's performance as opposed to the disappointing performance of the most popular player on that team--you know, like "they couldn't get to the FF" rather than "she couldn't take them there....." Don't get me wrong groom, I'm agreeing with you. My comments were in response to succcess and how it may be a deciding factor in determining "who's the best". I'm in no way bashing Sammie T.
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Post by gatorbob on Aug 31, 2006 20:41:22 GMT -5
I watched Angie win the job from an excellent setter a a freshman. I reserved judgment because I admired her predesessor as an athlete and an individual. With a year on her own and two summers of international play, I am convinced that she is as good as anyone in anybody's top 5. In this season, she has a triple-double versus a decent top 25 team. I think by seasons end my vote for her will be justified!!
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Post by IdahoBoy on Aug 31, 2006 20:42:47 GMT -5
I watched Angie win the job from an excellent setter a a freshman. I reserved judgment because I admired her predesessor as an athlete and an individual. With a year on her own and two summers of international play, I am convinced that she is as good as anyone in anybody's top 5. In this season, she has a triple-double versus a decent top 25 team. I think by seasons end my vote for her will be justified!! I thought Angie staying in during a freshman when a very talented and proven senior setter sat on the bench was a huge mistake by Wise. I'm still not impressed with McGinnis. But we'll know more after Friday's match.
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Post by cbrown1709 on Aug 31, 2006 22:01:43 GMT -5
I watched Angie win the job from an excellent setter a a freshman. I reserved judgment because I admired her predesessor as an athlete and an individual. With a year on her own and two summers of international play, I am convinced that she is as good as anyone in anybody's top 5. In this season, she has a triple-double versus a decent top 25 team. I think by seasons end my vote for her will be justified!! Maybe the word "won" is not the right choice of work for that statement.
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Post by Alberta on Aug 31, 2006 22:17:49 GMT -5
The above subject is still a sore spot for me. Lauren was robbed.
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Post by pineapple on Sept 1, 2006 0:30:55 GMT -5
According to the Star-Bulletin, UH Assoc coach Mike Sealy says the two top setters in the country right now are UCLA's Nellie Spicer and UH Kanoe Kamanao.
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Post by 2c on Sept 1, 2006 8:12:10 GMT -5
According to the Star-Bulletin, UH Assoc coach Mike Sealy says the two top setters in the country right now are UCLA's Nellie Spicer and UH Kanoe Kamanao. Mike's a smart man.
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Post by Gorf on Sept 1, 2006 12:34:13 GMT -5
One of my all time favorite setters (Dianne Ratnik) was a former Canadian National team player. Audrey Flaugh (Di Pronio) formerly of Ohio State and All American and now commentator (one of the better ones) for Fox Sports is from just outside Toronto, too. Gabrielle Jobst, not a setter but great OSU player, AA and pro player--Ontario. I remember those two kids. Dianne is still my favorite Canadian setter, especially after I got to know her a bit while she was playing for the local MLV pro team in the 80's then started working in their front offices after the league folded and the Monarchs tried to keep their team going for a few years without the league. Excellent setter and a very nice / good person as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2006 12:37:16 GMT -5
Ratnik! VBCoach and I were trying to come up with her name. She played for him. Or was it against him?
And, then, I had my transformation. After lunch. And he wasn't involved.
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Post by Gorf on Sept 1, 2006 12:46:06 GMT -5
She was the first elite level setter I'd seen play a lot that would virtually always get into position to set early, manage to watch the other side of the court while getting into position, be able to sneak an extra glance at the opponents defense before receiving the pass and more often than not get her hitters one on one or one on none attacks.
The last year of the league the Monarchs had a lot of debpth and pretty much every player on the team was an at an elite level so the serve receive and passing on defense were good enough that Dianne didn't have to run all over the court very often to set the ball.
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