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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 18, 2006 12:00:45 GMT -5
Then answer me this: if UCLA is better than Stanford, why was Stanford the better team last year? What changed? Try to live in the now, my friend. UCLA is much better than Stanford.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Sept 18, 2006 12:01:06 GMT -5
I think Stanford will double dip UCLA. I think just the opposite will be true. I think they are going to split. There, we've covered all the bases.
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Post by FloridaPerson on Sept 18, 2006 12:03:25 GMT -5
florida doesn't even belong in the top 15, perhaps 20! Please to be learnin' how t'use th' quotes correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2006 12:16:49 GMT -5
Then answer me this: if UCLA is better than Stanford, why was Stanford the better team last year? What changed? Try to live in the now, my friend. UCLA is much better than Stanford. Why? What makes you say that? What happened from 2005 to 2006 for this to be possible?
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Sept 18, 2006 12:19:19 GMT -5
Have you seen Stanford or UCLA play? How dare you question a Hawaii fan who HAS seen them?
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Post by GatorVball on Sept 18, 2006 12:22:57 GMT -5
florida doesn't even belong in the top 15, perhaps 20! Wow, so now Florida lost to Florida State? With the current lineup Florida has, I'd agree, they aren't a top 10 team. If they get healthy, they are easily a top 10 team. Since they are currently not healthy, I have no problem dropping them from the top 10. But at least get who they lost to, right. They already beat Florida State. As for Kentucky, what exactly have they done that you like them more than Florida? They have beaten exactly 0 ranked teams. Heck, same for Tennessee. LSU, fine, they have earned the right to be ahead of Florida. The rest of your post just makes no sense. Welcome to the world of quotes. And if Florida doesn't belong in the top 15 or 20, then Long Beach might as well end their program.
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Post by brybry on Sept 18, 2006 12:31:17 GMT -5
What are the chances the AVCA corrects the obvious over-ranking of UCLA, now that Florida and Hawaii fall/will fall? Answer? Zero. And that's another reason why the AVCA poll reeks. I think the AVCA could have moved UCLA down only if another team really stepped it up. But Washington hasn't done much lately. Texas has a couple of losses already so it's hard to move them up for now.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Sept 18, 2006 13:17:53 GMT -5
[And if Florida doesn't belong in the top 15 or 20, then Long Beach might as well end their program. I think there is a case to be made that Florida doesn't belong in the top 20. It's long and complicated, and takes a lot of math, but Florida is #21 in Pablo this week, nonetheless. Hence, there is a case... Now, any similarity between Pablo and the AVCA is purely coincidental, and luck on the AVCA part.
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Post by GatorVball on Sept 18, 2006 13:23:05 GMT -5
[And if Florida doesn't belong in the top 15 or 20, then Long Beach might as well end their program. I think there is a case to be made that Florida doesn't belong in the top 20. It's long and complicated, and takes a lot of math, but Florida is #21 in Pablo this week, nonetheless. Hence, there is a case... Now, any similarity between Pablo and the AVCA is purely coincidental, and luck on the AVCA part. Pablo had Oregon and Utah(a team Florida beat) ahead of them last week. I don't place much stock in Pablo. Not that the AVCA is much better, but Pablo's rankings are a lot more weird early in the season without as much data.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2006 13:33:40 GMT -5
Go Utes!
Seriously, you do know this A beat B so they are better doesn't work? I wish it did.
Cal Poly, for instance, isn't better than Texas, nor is UCSB better than Wisconsin, etc. All these losses do is confuse everyone -- and show that even very good teams can lose to good teams. OR show that teams you thought were very good can lose to so-so teams and therefore are probably not _very_ good.
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Post by rockstar on Sept 18, 2006 13:37:18 GMT -5
Right now, it is quite obvious that Florida and Hawaii are not nearly as good as expected before the season began. I know Hawaii has had some tough injuries, but what is up with Florida?
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Post by Xplaya on Sept 18, 2006 13:39:18 GMT -5
Right now, it is quite obvious that Florida and Hawaii are not nearly as good as expected before the season began. I know Hawaii has had some tough injuries, but what is up with Florida? injuries
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Sept 18, 2006 13:44:34 GMT -5
Pablo had Oregon and Utah(a team Florida beat) ahead of them last week. I don't place much stock in Pablo. Pablo has Utah slightly ahead of Florida still this week, but then again, it also has Florida ahead of South Carolina. If you want to insist upon having teams ahead of those who they beat, then Florida is going to be a lot lower than 21. OTOH, I seemed to miss your name in the pick the winners contest last week. Given your great assessment skills, you should be entering and winning all the time
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Post by JT on Sept 18, 2006 13:51:38 GMT -5
Seriously, you do know this A beat B so they are better doesn't work? I wish it did. It's true whenever it favors your team. Remember that.
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Post by bomber on Sept 18, 2006 14:23:13 GMT -5
Go Utes! Seriously, you do know this A beat B so they are better doesn't work? I wish it did. Cal Poly, for instance, isn't better than Texas, nor is UCSB better than Wisconsin, etc. All these losses do is confuse everyone -- and show that even very good teams can lose to good teams. OR show that teams you thought were very good can lose to so-so teams and therefore are probably not _very_ good. Right....look at Minnesota losing to TAMU for instance. Who then turned around and got swept by the Sooners in College Station. That doesn't make the Sooners better than the Gophers.....er, at least I think it doesn't. I mean arrrrggg!
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