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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2006 17:03:28 GMT -5
Except in 2004.
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Post by GatorVball on Nov 28, 2006 17:04:30 GMT -5
Except in 2004. They still got to the Final 4, didn't they?
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Post by Mix Breed-TEXAS,HI,LBSU on Nov 28, 2006 17:29:45 GMT -5
Yeah, but you have a funky east-coast loser style of volleyball. Hilarious. Hawai'i would not be the team they are this year without Ms. K. K. I sooooooooooooo agree with you. Hawai'i this year has been going through alot of injuries, and passing problems. That makes Kanoe work even harder every match. Spicer and Courtney looks good because their passing allows them to do their job as setters, set the ball, the hitter's pound away to rack up the assist. But try running and scrambling for every pass to get thee assist and run the offense.....not easy at all. Kanoe Kamana'o should be on that list regardless of how Hawai'i has done this season, She's a 3X all-american and will make it 4x AA. So there you go, Kanoe does more than CT and Spicer to be the quarterback that she is and still manages to do her job and keep her team winning....... KANOE KAMANA'O - first team all-american (2006).
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Post by roy on Nov 28, 2006 18:45:16 GMT -5
I sooooooooooooo agree with you. Hawai'i this year has been going through alot of injuries, and passing problems. That makes Kanoe work even harder every match. Spicer and Courtney looks good because their passing allows them to do their job as setters, set the ball, the hitter's pound away to rack up the assist. But try running and scrambling for every pass to get thee assist and run the offense.....not easy at all. Kanoe Kamana'o should be on that list regardless of how Hawai'i has done this season, She's a 3X all-american and will make it 4x AA. So there you go, Kanoe does more than CT and Spicer to be the quarterback that she is and still manages to do her job and keep her team winning....... KANOE KAMANA'O - first team all-american (2006). I suppose I have to go against the grain on this one. Kamanao is a great setter but won't make first team AA this year. I think she is going to get second team (or possibly third team). Even through a lot of the problems this year came from passing problems and player injuries, those are non-factors when considering AA status. In ways, that is unfair because it isn't something she can control. But that is the nature of the sport of volleyball. It is so team driven that you can't really separate the the AA from the players around her. Arguments could be made for Choi of NMSU or Nu'u of Colorado. They are both great setter and if they had better terminating outside hitters on their teams, they could also be first team AA. But as good as they are, their record as a team doesn't give them the looks at AA status as other setters.
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Post by GatorVball on Nov 28, 2006 19:03:23 GMT -5
Romero from LSU should make one of the AA teams.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2006 19:05:35 GMT -5
I would expect Tracy Stalls to contend for 2nd or 3rd team AA this year. Her stats include 2.67 kills/game, .430 hitting % and 1.40 blocks/game. Add to the MB list from the west coast: Anna Cmaylo (Santa Clara; last year 3rd team AA): 3.83 k/g, .407%, 1.14 b/g Alexis Crimes (LBSU & Big West POY): 3.79 k/g, .391%, 1.41 b/g Sophia Milo (Pepperdine & 3x All-WCC & FOY) 3.41 k/g, .355%, 1.20 b/g The All-Region teams are chosen after the first two rounds (and announced officially) a week from tomorrow. If the above players' teams do not make it to the Regionals, which is likely, it will be tougher for them to garner higher than HM AA awards.
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Post by blastingsand on Nov 28, 2006 19:19:49 GMT -5
So there you go, Kanoe does more than CT and Spicer to be the quarterback that she is and still manages to do her job and keep her team winning....... KANOE KAMANA'O - first team all-american (2006). Nellie's pretty good setting with bad passes. Don't know how good Kamana'o is, but Nellie should be up there with her. CT is decent setting bad passes, as we saw from the Stanford match. But she did the best she could and still got her team this far. And both of them have kept their team winning as well...........
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Post by theskate on Nov 28, 2006 22:47:28 GMT -5
i like cal poly's kylie atherstone..saw her play a couple times this season in LA
4.50 k/g, .254%, 1.09 blocks/g, 5.41 pts/g
oh and i almost forgot.. big west POY as well
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2006 23:39:47 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see what they do with Kaczor. Naming her to the AA Team kind of puts a stamp of approval on her -- and she isn't, after all, even eligible to play DI.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2006 23:42:01 GMT -5
Except in 2004. They still got to the Final 4, didn't they? Yep. I just like the Gophers to get credit for shutting down the "money" player. (Especially since that team -- and Gentil -- doesn't get much of any credit after the Stanford match ...)
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Post by GatorVball on Nov 28, 2006 23:52:08 GMT -5
They still got to the Final 4, didn't they? Yep. I just like the Gophers to get credit for shutting down the "money" player. (Especially since that team -- and Gentil -- doesn't get much of any credit after the Stanford match ...) Well, that's the west coast fans not giving them credit. I thought Minnesota put on a clinic in that match, they played a very damn fine match.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2006 1:14:04 GMT -5
They still got to the Final 4, didn't they? Yep. I just like the Gophers to get credit for shutting down the "money" player. (Especially since that team -- and Gentil -- doesn't get much of any credit after the Stanford match ...) To be fair and put things in context: The Big 10 fans were dissing Ogonna and damning her with faint praise while hailing the Big 10 and Stacy as the Second Coming (I guess that's pretty important in the Peripheral Bible Belt). Word was that Paula could dig any and everything. Interviews with her certainly led one to believe the same; Ogonna was typically very understated and modest. But when Stanford and Minnesota faced off, it was the most decisive mana-a-mana one could imagine: Ogonna pounding one after another directly at Paula and Paula shanking, being knocked down or both, with regularity. You have probably chosen to forget the stats. No need to comment on the final game and the controversy thereafter. The fact is, among two greats, Ogonna triumphed very dominantly. Perhaps credit is relative and that's where the perceived payback for thecontinuing lack of respect paid to Stanford winning that year and to Ogonna as POY has its cornerstone.
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Post by foreignball on Nov 29, 2006 9:44:31 GMT -5
No way, they didn't even make NCAAs. Nice player, may be an HM pick, but not first team. In such a case one may wonder whether AA is an individual award or "individual recognition for team's achievements"? If somebody doesn't have good teammates does that make her a weaker player?
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Post by leadbrain on Nov 29, 2006 10:29:57 GMT -5
After reading through the entire thread, I'm surprised a few names haven't popped into the 1st team conversation:
Bryn Kehoe - Pac 10 title, AVCA POW, 13.11 APG, .290 Team hitting percentage, 2.76 DPG
Sarah Blum MB - 3.13 KPG, .335 Hitting %, 1.84 BPG
Nicole Fawcett - 4.23 KPG, .330 Hitting %
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2006 10:40:52 GMT -5
Yep. I just like the Gophers to get credit for shutting down the "money" player. (Especially since that team -- and Gentil -- doesn't get much of any credit after the Stanford match ...) To be fair and put things in context: The Big 10 fans were dissing Ogonna and damning her with faint praise while hailing the Big 10 and Stacy as the Second Coming (I guess that's pretty important in the Peripheral Bible Belt). Hmmm. That wasn't what I was reading. People were saying Gordon was the better VB player. She was and is. Oh, please. That's not what happened. And I'd like to see one interview where Paula said any such thing. She had her faults, but not nearly as many as keep being brought up. It is true that Minnesota's defense was designed to funnel all attacks at Paula. And this was a problem when they faced superb OHs like Gordon and Ogonna. I remember Dave Boos specifically saying in a Chalk Talk that Stanford was the one team they didn't want to face in the NCAAs because of Ogonna. They knew Paula would be hard-pressed to dig her one on one -- and also knew she could go _over_ their block. That said, I still contend they didn't lose that match because they didn't stop Ogonna. It was because they couldn't stop anyone else -- Richards, whatsherface on the right and the middles were all chipping in. Kehoe was also very good. The Gophers could afford Ogonna going to town (although I'm sure they would have preferred she not get there so quickly). They could not afford the others also scoring. The team was flat. Pressure? Could be. But to reduce it to Ogonna v. Paula and pin the loss on Paula is unfair. (Fwiw, Paula was never the same player after that match. I'm still trying to figure out why. She may be the only one who really knows.)
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