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Post by Gorf on Nov 11, 2004 7:16:18 GMT -5
Not counting deaths is terrorism? Regardless of whether or not the administration is counting deaths or that they have an obligation to do so (they dont) that doesn't mean you get to parade around any old number that gets thrown about regardless of how precise it is. ROFL. You get to throw around any old unproven numbers you like and (R)uffda! doesn't? You gotta love double standards.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2004 9:08:53 GMT -5
Not counting deaths is terrorism? No. Dropping bombs on civilian populations fits MY definition of terrorism. Not counting afterwards is just another example of the Bush Administration sticking their heads in the sand. And extreme insensitivity to the Middle East populace--something that would appear to be their specialty.
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Post by chipNdink on Nov 11, 2004 10:13:08 GMT -5
...I support Bush fully, but am not a uneducated redneck as you libs like to think. I do question his policies and don't take things verbatum. I have paid attention to the fact that we have not had any attacks since 9-11, and also recognize that sometimes things have to go bad before they become really good... I'm continually amazed at people justifying Bush's policies based upon the fact that "we have not had any attacks since 9-11". Well, when Clinton ran for re-election in 1996, there "hadn't been any more attacks since 1993" either; so did you support Clinton's policies and re-election based upon that? I certainly hope not, as I certainly hope no one is in a false sense of security merely based upon the fact "we haven't been attacked since 2001".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2004 11:18:51 GMT -5
Here's other stuff Bush has prevented:
*No Dinosaurs have eaten a single American since he's been in office
*The Japanese have not attacked Pearl Harbor
*Not a single U.S. civil war
*No NASA disasters. Oops. Scratch that one.
*No meteors have crashed into the U.S.--at least none involving substantial damage
*No alien attacks (that they've told us about)
*No flu shot shortages (except for the last two years)
*No triple digit Health Care cost increases
*No Hawaii Women's VB Championships
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Post by Gorf on Nov 11, 2004 12:28:24 GMT -5
Remember a book called the Bible, the jews use the Ark to smote Jericho? That story saw G_d doing that to help them. Now, are there better ways to resolve war? FWIW: There was no war before the US led coalition invaded Iraq. The best war to resolve such a war? Don't invade. The vatican called the invasion "immoral and unjust" and even reiterated just before the recent US elections that preventive wars are permissible only with "clear proof" of an imminent attack. GWB didn't give me the power to write on this site. We sure don't want those foreigners doing what the rich "conservatives" prefer to do on their own. OTOH: The "conservative" administrations are certainly willing to run up huge deficits that dramatically increase the national debt requiring more and more loans from foreign countries.
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Post by Gorf on Nov 11, 2004 12:35:21 GMT -5
I'm continually amazed at people justifying Bush's policies based upon the fact that "we have not had any attacks since 9-11". Well, when Clinton ran for re-election in 1996, there "hadn't been any more attacks since 1993" either; so did you support Clinton's policies and re-election based upon that? I certainly hope not, as I certainly hope no one is in a false sense of security merely based upon the fact "we haven't been attacked since 2001". With all of the warnings and raised threat levels the GWB administration has given us regarding potential attacks I'm confident if their actions and plans had actually prevented any attacks they would have clearly let us know such to be the case. After all, they promised not to use 9/11 as a political tool and used it anyhow. If there was any way possible to claim they had actually prevented any more recent attacks (especially one that was stopped "in action") they'd certainly have let us know that and used it in their campaign for re-election. Since they didn't mention anything along those lines, its pretty unlikely that they've prevented any such plans thus far.
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Post by islandgirl on Nov 11, 2004 14:32:27 GMT -5
Here's other stuff Bush has prevented: **No Hawaii Women's VB Championships I know that was MY main reason for not voting for him. Damn him! Don't forget, he also prevented Mt. St. Helens from fully erupting.
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Post by islandgirl on Nov 11, 2004 14:34:06 GMT -5
The vatican called the invasion "immoral and unjust" and even reiterated just before the recent US elections that preventive wars are permissible only with "clear proof" of an imminent attack. Aw, Gorf. I was just about to state this. You beat me to it.
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Post by Eater on Nov 12, 2004 1:34:37 GMT -5
ROFL. You get to throw around any old unproven numbers you like and (R)uffda! doesn't? You gotta love double standards. And i'm sure you'll be pointing out those unproven numbers I was throwing out. Oh wait, no you wont.
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Post by Eater on Nov 12, 2004 1:36:19 GMT -5
No. Dropping bombs on civilian populations fits MY definition of terrorism. Not counting afterwards is just another example of the Bush Administration sticking their heads in the sand. And extreme insensitivity to the Middle East populace--something that would appear to be their specialty. You have a stupid definition of terrorism. I guess the allies in WW2 were terrorists too.
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Post by Gorf on Nov 12, 2004 7:16:09 GMT -5
You have a stupid definition of terrorism. I guess the allies in WW2 were terrorists too. Uh.. The allies in WW II didn't start the war whereas GWB (and his administration) did start the invasion of Iraq.
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Post by Gorf on Nov 12, 2004 7:17:30 GMT -5
You have a stupid definition of terrorism. I guess the allies in WW2 were terrorists too. Every number you've listed for the number of Iraqi deaths since the coalition led invasion of Iraq began. There is no official count.
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Post by Noname on Nov 12, 2004 10:56:00 GMT -5
Heck, even the Vatican recognizes the efforts in Iraq. This was funny to read, considering the Vatican is full of stolen artworks (Mostly from WWII, gifts from the Nazis while trying to invade Europe.) and have visitors to pay to go see it too. Yes, the same Vatican that preaches "Thou shall not steal".
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Post by chipNdink on Nov 12, 2004 11:44:10 GMT -5
This was funny to read, considering the Vatican is full of stolen artworks (Mostly from WWII, gifts from the Nazis while trying to invade Europe.) and have visitors to pay to go see it too. Yes, the same Vatican that preaches "Thou shall not steal". This is funny. Someone named "Madonna" ragging on the Vatican.
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Post by Noname on Nov 12, 2004 11:56:58 GMT -5
This is funny. Someone named "Madonna" ragging on the Vatican. What I found funny also, is that when the entertainer Madonna was asked by the Pope to see him, she told him he could buy a concert ticket like everybody to see her.
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