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Post by midnightblue on Feb 19, 2011 23:41:22 GMT -5
The problem I have is that he asked his players to commit to him and they did now he up and leaves when something , more money, arrives. Greed is a great thing to teach his family. Greed? You're saying that's the ONLY motivation here? C'mon. And when did "buying into his system" become such a big deal? These are world class athletes. I think they'll be able to adjust. It has always been a big deal, you just haven't realized that because no coach in recent memory has left in the middle of the quad. Example of why investing into a system is such a huge deal: take China since the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Their results at the major international tournaments have been horrendous and huge disappointments. Why, everyone wants to know? China has always been so solid. They have had 3 coaching changes in the last year and half. That is 3 entirely different systems, 3 entirely different strategies, 3 entirely different philosophies, etc. Coaching changes in the middle of quads are not a good thing for programs. That is why buying into a system is such a huge deal. |
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Post by OverAndUnder on Feb 19, 2011 23:41:54 GMT -5
The problem I have is that he asked his players to commit to him and they did now he up and leaves when something , more money, arrives. Greed is a great thing to teach his family. Greed? You're saying that's the ONLY motivation here? C'mon. And when did "buying into his system" become such a big deal? These are world class athletes. I think they'll be able to adjust. These are world class athletes who, if they're lucky, will get two chances in their entire life to play their sport at the highest level in its highest-profile event: The Olympics. If they are very very lucky, they might get three chances. One or two in a generation might be very very very very lucky enough to be on the roster at four events. In their life. I don't doubt that the individual athletes can adjust, but the concern isn't whether a world-class athlete can learn to hit a faster/slower tempo in the next 15 months, but rather does the TEAM as a functioning unit have enough opportunities (tournaments against tough opponents) to adjust to a potentially different set of expectations and tactics in time to qualify for the next Olympics and then solidify enough to have a worthwhile chance at a medal. |
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Post by Carlton Lassiter on Feb 19, 2011 23:43:04 GMT -5
Greed? You're saying that's the ONLY motivation here? C'mon. And when did "buying into his system" become such a big deal? These are world class athletes. I think they'll be able to adjust. It has always been a big deal, you just haven't realized that because no coach in recent memory has left in the middle of the quad. Example of why investing into a system is such a huge deal: take China since the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Their results at the major international tournaments have been horrendous and huge disappointments. Why, everyone wants to know? China has always been so solid. They have had 3 coaching changes in the last year and half. That is 3 entirely different systems, 3 entirely different strategies, 3 entirely different philosophies, etc. Coaching changes in the middle of quads are not a good thing for programs. That is why buying into a system is such a huge deal. Fair enough, but that's 3 in a year and a half, as you said. This is one. |
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Post by paloalto on Feb 20, 2011 0:03:42 GMT -5
it is my opinion that Hugh wanted to be with his family and his newborn son rather than travel the world and not be there for the first two years of that little boy's life. Have any of you considered that? I find it crude and obscene that anybody would denounce Hugh for leaving the WNT for a job that will allow him to raise his son and be with his family. Why not just wish him luck and applaud the man for wanting to be with his family? I don’t have much problem with Hugh looking for his best opportunity. I admire anyone who wants to be involved with their family. In the final analysis, to me it is the only thing that really matters. However, I am not buying into your reasoning. I presume by family you are primarily referring to his wife and child. OK. Well he was married long before he started with the WNT. And his baby is about 7/8 months I believe which means he knew nearly 16/17 months ago about his family situation. If being with his family is his primary motivation in life as you contend, why didn’t Hugh start looking for another gig a long time ago? Why didn’t Hugh just take the Minnesota job fulltime right when it was first offered? |
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Post by sonofdogman on Feb 20, 2011 0:10:59 GMT -5
- family situation is pretty tough on DI head coach as well, esp. when starting a new job; while not the same rigors as the international schedule, the travel and the time at the office/gym for the MN job are easily comparable to the job as USA's coach
- someone mentioned he did not get on with the USAV staff so well: who the heck was he getting on with as the men's coach during the previous quadrennial?
- I too would love to hear what his former men's players say about this; stay tuned to the Net Live
- totally agree about the merits of system theory and the shock of a completely new methodology and/or tactical approach that a change could affect
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Post by spalding on Feb 20, 2011 0:18:28 GMT -5
Team USA is going to become a better team without Hugh. They have world class talent and world class young talent. These young girl's are going to take it to another level with or without Hugh. USA needs a coach that will let these girl's play and grow together the next 18 months to make a run at a Gold medal.
Good luck to Hugh with Minn and dealing with all the things that go into running a top ten Women's Volleyball program. He has zero experience there and it will take him a couple of years to figure it out.
The only reason he is there now is because so many coaches turned down the interim HC job.
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Post by pogoball on Feb 20, 2011 0:23:26 GMT -5
Honestly, as an American, I'm disappointed.
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Post by lonewolf on Feb 20, 2011 0:38:31 GMT -5
Personally, I would have liked to seen him coach through the entire quad. However, since he has been slated as the next Gopher HC, I think it's better for him to move on to that job and so that the WNT can find a coach who will be able to commit their full attention to the task at hand.
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Post by lonewolf on Feb 20, 2011 0:38:59 GMT -5
Team USA is going to become a better team without Hugh. Based on what reasoning? |
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Post by sevb on Feb 20, 2011 0:45:33 GMT -5
Personally, I would have liked to seen him coach through the entire quad. However, since he has been slated as the next Gopher HC, I think it's better for him to move on to that job and so that the WNT can find a coach who will be able to commit their full attention to the task at hand. Gold star post!! Well said |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2011 0:57:33 GMT -5
Disgusted? Let me preface this by stating that my opinion has nothing to do with USA volleyball: Hugh McCutcheon may be one of the finest human beings I have come across. He cares about his family, his friends, and his career. it is my opinion that Hugh wanted to be with his family and his newborn son rather than travel the world and not be there for the first two years of that little boy's life. Have any of you considered that? I find it crude and obscene that anybody would denounce Hugh for leaving the WNT for a job that will allow him to raise his son and be with his family. Why not just wish him luck and applaud the man for wanting to be with his family? You act like he didn't realize how the travel and job responsibilities would affect his personal life. Keep in mind that HE HAS DONE THIS BEFORE. Regardless of his realizations, doing this at this point is wrong. |
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Post by sonofdogman on Feb 20, 2011 1:01:41 GMT -5
Personally, I would have liked to seen him coach through the entire quad. However, since he has been slated as the next Gopher HC, I think it's better for him to move on to that job and so that the WNT can find a coach who will be able to commit their full attention to the task at hand. Gold star post!! Well said +1 |
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Post by spalding on Feb 20, 2011 1:07:53 GMT -5
Honestly, as an American, I'm disappointed. Hugh is a kiwi. You should be happy |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2011 1:10:03 GMT -5
The problem I have is that he asked his players to commit to him and they did now he up and leaves when something , more money, arrives. Greed is a great thing to teach his family. Greed? You're saying that's the ONLY motivation here? C'mon. And when did "buying into his system" become such a big deal? These are world class athletes. I think they'll be able to adjust. World-class athletes that already were having issues coming together as a team and issues with people buying into Hugh's system (Tom, McGinnis, etc.). Individually, they are world-class athletes who can adjust eventaully - you're right. But, as a team, they aren't even close to stable enough to handle a transition like this. Not in the middle of the damn quadrennial. He's said sooooo many times in interviews how the athtletes MUST buy into what he's trying to do if they have a real chance at doing something great. It's just horrible that, as soon as another opportunity comes along, he drops them... Kinda disrespectful to the USA in a way... It's NOT only about him and what's best for his family. He made a commitment to those women and demanded a commitment from them.  Ugh. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2011 1:10:25 GMT -5
Greed? You're saying that's the ONLY motivation here? C'mon. And when did "buying into his system" become such a big deal? These are world class athletes. I think they'll be able to adjust. These are world class athletes who, if they're lucky, will get two chances in their entire life to play their sport at the highest level in its highest-profile event: The Olympics. If they are very very lucky, they might get three chances. One or two in a generation might be very very very very lucky enough to be on the roster at four events. In their life. I don't doubt that the individual athletes can adjust, but the concern isn't whether a world-class athlete can learn to hit a faster/slower tempo in the next 15 months, but rather does the TEAM as a functioning unit have enough opportunities (tournaments against tough opponents) to adjust to a potentially different set of expectations and tactics in time to qualify for the next Olympics and then solidify enough to have a worthwhile chance at a medal. Very well said. Here, here. |
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Ugh.