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Post by redbeard2008 on Aug 12, 2012 2:19:58 GMT -5
This is not just NBC. This is USA Volleyball that allows this sport to be treated like a doormat. They simply have NO idea how to promote the sport. I believe every other team gold medal match was covered live, from start to finish. Even team handball. Soccer fans wouldn't stand to have this done to their sport - they'd be rioting in the streets, burning Bob Costas in effigy. |
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Post by volleyballhawk on Aug 12, 2012 3:13:11 GMT -5
It's a total and complete injustice to volleyball. Thanks NBC.
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Post by tomclen on Aug 12, 2012 6:22:24 GMT -5
After having missed earlier matches when I set my tivo but NBC didn't run volleyball on the west coast at the time they advertised, I just gave up on trying to watch.
I just completely lost interest in watching olympic volleyball. I knew the gold medal match was going to be on Saturday, but I didn't know what time and I didn't feel like making the effort to look it up...mostly because I had already learned that no matter what the NBC website said, it probably wouldn't be on west coast tv at that time anyway.
Olympics on TV has become nothing but a vehicle for the network to make huge sums of advertising dollars. They pay over a billion dollars for the rights for these 'games' and they want to milk as much money as possible (and promote other NBC product).
There's nothing wrong with NBC trying to make money, but viewers need to realize that is the major priority of NBC with regard to the olympics. Covering any event...especially live coverage...is not really their focus.
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Post by kolohekeiki on Aug 12, 2012 6:33:27 GMT -5
NBC is showing a Tom Brokaw documentary, on the British in WWII, as part of its prime time coverage tomorrow. Will it be shorter or longer than the volleyball coverage? No offense, but seriously what was the point of this segment? Why couldn't they have a special documentary time outside of the olympic coverage instead of wasting an hour of primetime coverage to show this? I wonder how much people actually tuned in and watched this segment because I kept turning the station back and forth waiting for it to end! |
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Post by 84olympicsviewer on Aug 12, 2012 9:13:50 GMT -5
No offense, but seriously what was the point of this segment? Why couldn't they have a special documentary time outside of the olympic coverage instead of wasting an hour of primetime coverage to show this? I wonder how much people actually tuned in and watched this segment because I kept turning the station back and forth waiting for it to end! Agree with the volleyball stuff and lack of announced and timely coverage of at MINIMUM the entire US matches in a US Feed. Not to burst your bubble, but we record the feed.....and FFFF forward out of segments we don't want to see....and believe it or nuts we rewound to the beginning of this non Olympic segment and watched it in its entirety. You'd be surprised at what people do NOT know about what has profoundly shaped societies and generations....and how many people do NOT realize that the Olympics is more than just sports. |
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Post by azvb on Aug 12, 2012 9:25:39 GMT -5
I wonder what NBC would have shown if USA had won in 5, every game going to deuce? Did they decide the day before, "We have 15 minutes for volleyball, no matter what." It took them 20 minutes to show the 36 second 4x100 meter final for cripes sake.
I thought the Winston Churchill piece was fascinating, but I'm a WWII buff. Would like to have seen in maybe at the beginning of the games.
They really could have shown the match in it's entirety instead of Malaysa/Netherlands handball final on NBCS or France/Sweden men's field hockey on msnbc (not sure those were the teams, but whatever). If US was playing in either of those matches, fine, show them. My choice was women's bb, handball, or field hockey. I switched back and forth between handball and field hockey. Women's Bball bores me to tears.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Aug 12, 2012 13:17:41 GMT -5
NBC is showing a Tom Brokaw documentary, on the British in WWII, as part of its prime time coverage tomorrow. Will it be shorter or longer than the volleyball coverage? No offense, but seriously what was the point of this segment? Why couldn't they have a special documentary time outside of the olympic coverage instead of wasting an hour of primetime coverage to show this? I wonder how much people actually tuned in and watched this segment because I kept turning the station back and forth waiting for it to end! If they thought so highly of it, they should have made room for it elsewhere on their schedule. Brokaw and Costas are a pair of avuncular gas bags... |
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Post by redbeard2008 on Aug 12, 2012 14:57:20 GMT -5
NBC now showing the men's volleyball gold medal match here on the west coast - unfortunately, I found out the result over an hour ago.
NBC did show the men's basketball final live early this morning...out here on the frontier...
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Post by kolohekeiki on Aug 13, 2012 0:46:04 GMT -5
No offense, but seriously what was the point of this segment? Why couldn't they have a special documentary time outside of the olympic coverage instead of wasting an hour of primetime coverage to show this? I wonder how much people actually tuned in and watched this segment because I kept turning the station back and forth waiting for it to end! Agree with the volleyball stuff and lack of announced and timely coverage of at MINIMUM the entire US matches in a US Feed. Not to burst your bubble, but we record the feed.....and FFFF forward out of segments we don't want to see....and believe it or nuts we rewound to the beginning of this non Olympic segment and watched it in its entirety. You'd be surprised at what people do NOT know about what has profoundly shaped societies and generations....and how many people do NOT realize that the Olympics is more than just sports. First, not everyone is fortunate to record feeds and fast forward out parts they don't want...and if you are watching it live on tv you don't have that option... I do know that the olympics is a lot more than sports and has a vast history, but if that portion should have been showed in it's own timeslot for documentary's and not during primetime sports coverage especially on the second to the last day when there are a lot of gold medal finals going on... |
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Post by longtermsub on Aug 13, 2012 1:30:52 GMT -5
I was outraged by how NBC handled the women's gold medal match...
Yes, US didn't win...But, still, why couldn't they show the match...
I caught a few minutes of the match between Russia and Brazil for men's gold medal...NBC commentator said that Brazil women had a wonderful game on Saturday...He apparently forgot that NBC didn't show much of that game...
NBC showed the gold medal match between US and France in women's basketball live...It was a boring match...France had NO chance against US...It would have been OK for NBC to show that game in bits and pieces...But, I guess NBC didn't want to offend women's basketball fans...There is after all WNBA...No such league for women's volleyball...
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Post by gobruins on Aug 13, 2012 8:37:45 GMT -5
NBC claims that huge numbers of people are watching the prime time show despite already knowing the results. O.k., if that is true, then why not show the VB match live on one of the cable channels, and then show the 20 minute version on prime time?
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Post by halesvb11 on Aug 13, 2012 10:08:33 GMT -5
I'm more of a men's fan, but I'll throw this out there. In '08, they showed about the last 10-15 points of the gold medal match (at least that's what I saw, I could be totally wrong). It was in prime time.
I watched the majority of a 5 set gold medal match yesterday and we weren't even playing. I think their priorities are out of whack, but it's all about money for them. We're a pixel on their HD screen of viewership - aka we don't matter.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Aug 13, 2012 10:58:58 GMT -5
I'm more of a men's fan, but I'll throw this out there. In '08, they showed about the last 10-15 points of the gold medal match (at least that's what I saw, I could be totally wrong). It was in prime time. I watched the majority of a 5 set gold medal match yesterday and we weren't even playing. I think their priorities are out of whack, but it's all about money for them. We're a pixel on their HD screen of viewership - aka we don't matter. NBC's coverage of the Olympics has always been cr*p - it has just been its cr*ppiest when it comes to indoor volleyball. The message of this is if fans, players, coaches, US Volleyball, etc., do not protest this ill treatment, it will simply continue to happen, over and over again. The targets should be USAV, USOC, FIVB, etc. Make your displeasure known. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 11:22:22 GMT -5
There's always been this untested theory out there that if Team USA were to win the gold medal, the resulting publicity would lead to more interest in our sport.
So this makes the loss, again, even more disappointing. Once again, the theory remains untested.
HOWEVER, I saw no indication that NBC was going to give the sport any real attention. Obviously, they did not do it through pool play or in the quarters or semis. MAYBE they would have shown the entire championship had they won, rather than 6 hours of diving. But, more likely, they would have just shown more of it, not all of it.
And that's going to do almost nothing to promote the sport.
I remain convinced that if mainstream America were exposed to the sport, the sport would benefit immensely. "Try it! You'll like it! Honest!" I am now convinced, however, that this will never happen. Not in my lifetime. Unfortunately, NBC knows that Americans want to consume what we have always consumed. It takes an awful lot -- way too much work for NBC -- to get us to eat anything new.
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Post by Gorflorg Orshforg on Aug 13, 2012 11:29:47 GMT -5
There's always been this untested theory out there that if Team USA were to win the gold medal, the resulting publicity would lead to more interest in our sport. So this makes the loss, again, even more disappointing. Once again, the theory remains untested. HOWEVER, I saw no indication that NBC was going to give the sport any real attention. Obviously, they did not do it through pool play or in the quarters or semis. MAYBE they would have shown the entire championship had they won, rather than 6 hours of diving. But, more likely, they would have just shown more of it, not all of it. And that's going to do almost nothing to promote the sport. I remain convinced that if mainstream America were exposed to the sport, the sport would benefit immensely. "Try it! You'll like it! Honest!" I am now convinced, however, that this will never happen. Not in my lifetime. Unfortunately, NBC knows that Americans want to consume what we have always consumed. It takes an awful lot -- way too much work for NBC -- to get us to eat anything new. We all ready tested this with the men in 2008. Maybe the women are different. Certainly hope so. |
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